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Location:

Cypress,TX,

Member Since:

Oct 10, 2009

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

5K: 24:22 (March 2010); 22:33 (October 2010); 20:47 (May 2011); 21:05 (May 2012); 21:33 (September 2012); 21:23 (November, 2013); 22:31 (September 2014)

5M:  39:22 (November, 2012); 35:54 (November, 2013); 36:03 (March, 2015)

10K: 44:08 (November, 2010); 49:20 (July, 2013); 44:07 (April, 2015)

12K:  56:03 (December, 2013); 58:58 (December, 2014)

10M:  1:11:58 (October, 2012); 1:15:24 (October, 2014)

Half Marathon:  1:53:xx (London's Run 2010); 2:05:21 (Cowtown 2010); 1:37:04 (Gusher 2011); 1:42:19 (Huntsville 2011); 1:33:47 (Baytown Jailbreak 2012); 1:33:50 (The Woodlands 2012); 1:42:52 (Texas 2015); 1:49:17 (Jailbreak 2015); 1:38:34 (The Woodlands 2015)

25K: 2:01:47 (Fifth Third River Bank, May 2014)

Marathon: 5:51:35 (Texas Marathon 2009); 6:21:36 (Ogden 2009); 4:58:29 (St. George 2009); 4:13:45 (Texas Marathon 2010); 4:04:12 (Utah Valley Marathon, 2010); 5:11:14 (Hartford ING, 2010); 3:41:43 (Richmond SunTrust, 2010); 3:39:27 (Texas Marathon 2011); 3:41:46 (Utah Valley Marathon, 2011); 3:30:35 (St. George 2011); 3:41:51 (Richmond 2012); 3:49:15 (Texas 2013); 3:46:59 (Paavo Nurmi, 2013); 3:34:04 (St. George 2013); 3:49:51 (Texas 2014); 3:31:59 (Richmond 2014); 3:28:34 (Boston 2015)

Short-Term Running Goals:

3:20, 1:30, 0:20

Long-Term Running Goals:

I'm 60, there is no long term.

Personal:

I live, work and run in Houston, Texas.  I have run 17 marathons, some good ones and some others.  I prefer straight, flat, cold, sea-level marathons, still waiting for my first one.  I feel like there are more PRs out there.  When I have them, I am told it is time to dial it back, run for healthy reasons.  I'm sure that's right, and I'm sure it won't happen.

My wife and I are from the mountains of the west.  We have five kids, three granddaughters and three grandsons.  The kids and grandkids are native Texans but we are not -- you have to be born here.

As for my blog title: I run most of my miles before sunrise, sometimes hours before. On the back road of my neighborhood two hours before daylight, I can depend on a pack of mutts behind the boundary fence lighting up when they hear my footsteps. I have wondered what they wanted; but according to Hemingway I needn't ask.

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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2198.91535.5377.6021.402833.44
Race: Texas Marathon (26.2 Miles) 04:13:47
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.0026.200.000.0026.20

Today was a big day, difficult to capture all of the flavor of this race.  The Texas Marathon is held on New Years Day every year in Kingwood, Texas, which is northeast of Houston.  It runs along a jogging parkway that leaves a community center and extends out to Lake Houston then back to the start.  The race is four laps, and even that is generous, as each “loop” is really an out and back with a small half-mile loop at the far end.  As a result many people pass on this race because they can’t fathom the mental stress of going out on the last out and back just as the bonk begins.  Nevertheless, in recent years this small race has sold out several months in advance.  About 2/3 of the 450 runners run the marathon and 1/3 run the half, which starts a few minutes later over the same course.  The course is mostly flat, my favorite kind.

Weather at the beginning was 42F and cloudy, with a 10 mph north wind that continued throughout the race.  By the end of the race the wind had blown out the clouds and it got sunny.  The forecast of 32 at race time never materialized, but it stayed cool enough throughout the race that temperatures were never a noticeable factor.

I decided to try for a 9:10 pace, which would put me at about 4 hours.  My other competing plan was 9:30 pace, which would put me at about 4:10.  While not out of the question, I knew that 9:10 was a long shot for me, but I decided to try it anyway for a couple of reasons.  This was a goal race but it was not going to be my Boston qualifier no matter how well things went, so I could afford to overextend myself and hopefully learn a lot more that way.  I also decided that I would be able to take my foot off the gas pedal and run slow if things started to fall apart.  Both assumptions turned out to be correct.

I drove to the course with a friend, my former bishop, who was running his first marathon.  He is more talented than I am but was apprehensive of what would happen after 20 miles.  I think it is good to be afraid of that.  He planned to run conservatively, opposite of me, planning to break 4 hours by a comfortable enough margin that he could still achieve it if the wheels fell off late in the race.  We discussed briefly running together for a couple of laps, but even with the differences in our approaches it was apparent that my aggressive strategy was still slower than his conservative plan.

The race is run on a walking trail, 4 abreast at best, so we edged our way up toward the front in order to avoid too much congestion at the start and lose 20 seconds in the first mile.  That worked well, I had to step around a few people but managed to get my first mile at 9:06.  My friend was long gone -- he ended up beating 4 hours by about 2 minutes, but I haven’t gotten the details from him yet.  The first couple of miles seemed a little hurried but I soon settled into a rhythm and the pace didn’t seem overly aggressive.  I noticed that my Garmin was measuring the course short (it is USATF certified and a Boston qualifier).  Before too many miles I was being greeted by runners coming back the other way.  Runners always have a high degree of sportsmanship, but I was amazed at the number of “nice bib number” type of compliments I was getting.  It wasn’t until halfway through the third lap that I realized the connection between bib number 262 and the marathon distance.  Boy did I feel dumb.  Even with my GPS measuring the course short, I was holding to a 9:10 pace or better through most of 3 laps without much trouble.  After two laps I had a 3-minute cushion on a 4-hour time.  Starting in the third lap it was harder to make the splits but I was still making them most of the time and had hopes through much of that lap for achieving 4 hours.  The first hint of trouble came at about mile 17 (last year’s bonk location) when I got a severe pain in my upper left groin.  I have never had any issues like that before and I was astounded at how debilitating it was.  I thought my race was over right there, but thankfully the pain subsided enough after a quarter of a mile that the overall effect on my time probably turned out to be minimal.   I knew Plan A wasn’t going to happen toward the end of the third lap when I popped a 9:27.  I “picked up the pace” and popped a 9:33.  I was hemorrhaging seconds at an alarming rate.  I kept going as best I could until halfway through the fourth lap but then intentionally slowed in order to be able to bring it in.  My pace ballooned to the 11s and the 12s.  I was hurting but I knew from a couple of my long runs that I could run through the pain.  I even picked up the pace a little bit in the last mile or two, hurting all the way but never getting worse.  A host of family and friends were there at the finish line and I’m telling you I was very emotional when I saw them. Here are my splits, without adjustment for measuring the course short: 9:07, 9:02, 9:20, 9:08, 9:06, 9:00, 9:10, 9:05, 9:11, 8:58, 9:06, 9:18, 9:11, 9:11, 9:10, 9:27, 9:33, 9:53, 9:42, 9:55, 10:09, 11:09, 11:46, 12:46, 12:33, 12:25

So Plan B worked.  I learned a lot and I only missed the 4:10 “safe” goal by less than 4 minutes -- and who knows, if I had run a 9:30 pace I might have bonked anyway.  A couple of bad things I noticed:  My speed was fine, at least for the speeds I am running right now, but I ran out of gas.  I need more stamina, which will only come through continued training.  I have to run 8:30s to qualify for Boston, but that now seems achievable.  The other bad thing relates to hydration and calories.  I drank only half a bottle of water through the whole race.  I was trying to avoid that sloshing feeling that has caused nausea in each of my first three marathons.  It worked but I had salt on my face after the race and my legs felt like logs through the last lap, probably because of no calories.  I still have to work on that one.

On the good side, I learned a ton and got a 45-minute PR off of 2-1/2 months of training.  (I threw up on the lawn at St. George, so I can’t be accused of dogging that race.)  I couldn’t be happier about how my training has gone this fall.  I am convinced, at least for now, that our bodies are happiest going hard for 6 days then taking a day off.  I did that every week beginning two weeks after St. George and coincidence or not I got a big PR.  For now, I see no reason to train any differently, legs permitting I plan to run lots of low heart rate miles to build endurance and continue working on speed to a lesser extent.  My next goal race will be St. George or some fall equivalent, which is where I hope to qualify for Boston.  I may run some other stuff in the meantime, but I won’t interrupt my training schedule to do it.  As we rotate into our Houston summer I will have lots of opportunities to work on hydration and calories.

Comments
From Burt on Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 14:44:17 from 98.177.216.165

Way to go Mark! Good report. You're the meaning in my life. You're the inspiration.

From jasro on Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 16:00:46 from 64.255.180.217

Way to go!! I'm mightily impressed. I agree with you about running six days a week. I've seen a lot of improvement. I hope I see the same type of results as you.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:40:26 from 71.21.119.111

Congrats on the race. I'm new to running myself and it's nice to see someone can improve so dramatically. I'm thinking of making my first ever marathon the Houston Marathon in Jan. 2011 since it's my hometown as well. Good luck in your progression.

Joe

From flatlander on Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 19:59:59 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks Burt for plowing through the whole report, and thanks for the encouragement.

Jasro, I think it really helps, you are on the same track and will be plenty fast the next time you run one. With all my improvement, I'm average at best.

Welcome to the blog, SJoe, what part of Houston do you live in? I am in Cypress. All the Houston Marathon entrants have been out in force the last few weeks. That race for this year is only two or three weeks from now.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 23:22:52 from 71.21.119.111

Thanks for the welcome, I live in Abilene TX now but I grew up in the Montrose area in town which is why I think it would be a cool race to run since it goes through my old stomping ground. Of course I'm nowhere near ready now but maybe in a year (provided I stick with it). I haven't even managed a week with 26 miles much less a race.

I used to play at a now-closed 9-hole golf course in Cypress (290 & Telge exit, I think) that was owned by the company my dad worked for.

Congrats again, looking forward to watching your improvement.

From flatlander on Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 07:50:36 from 198.207.244.102

SJoe, I live right by that old course, small world. I also know Abilene well, my project group at my law firm did the development and financing of that big wind farm just south of Sweetwater. Looks like there are lots of good places to run out there.

From Huans32 on Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 08:46:38 from 138.64.8.51

Oh man a race report and looks like you did really good on it too. I haven't read it yet but saw your time. AWESOME JOB!!

From Burt on Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 10:05:39 from 98.177.216.165

Hey Flatty, my civil engineering firm does a lot of work with wind farms, site evaluation, survey, entitlement, phase I and other environmental work, and any civil stuff such as road improvements, etc. Let me know if you're ever involved again and could use our services.

(What a shameless plug that was.)

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 20:30:43 from 71.21.119.111

Abilene does have some nice places to run, and without the humidity!

From Mack on Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 23:15:40 from 71.111.182.118

Congrats on a solid performance on what sounds to me like a pretty tough course. It was pretty dramatic to see how your pace dropped off at the end. The 8:58 (mile 10) was cool to see wedged in there with all of those 9's. Hope you enjoy a nice, well earned rest and come back even stronger for St George in the fall. Great job!!

From flatlander on Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 15:46:02 from 198.207.244.102

Huans, thanks, I think a lot of us are going to be running quite a bit faster this year, based on some of the training logs I have been watching.

Burt, you can't out-plug a lawyer. We should meet for a "business" lunch when I come in for the half marathon at the end of January.

SJoe, we could certainly use a little less humidity -- everybody knows how warm it can make things, but the cold days get really cold when the air is wet and heavy.

Mack, yeah I know, I thought I might see a few more 8s, but that turned out to be my best mile. I just need to stay healthy and get stronger.

From Smooth on Mon, May 03, 2010 at 17:23:27 from 174.23.172.155

Sorry for the late CONGRATZ to your HUGE PR! GREAT race report! Keep up the good work!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.000.000.000.002.00

39F, wind NNW at 8 mph.  Ran two easy ones to get circulation going, no stats.  I felt good but the groin pull from the marathon is still chirping a little bit.  I hope it doesn't amount to much.  Saturday was my first day off except Sundays since mid-October. 

My son's Texas open house was Saturday night, lots of good company and good food; one last blowout and the holidays are now over except for cleaning up.  My son-in-law got the fireworks assignment.  I couldn't resist "helping", though.  He built two cannister cases and we spent the week looking for fuses and just checking things out generally.  Buying fireworks is a good way to meet rednecks.  They sell some big ones down here to the general public (up to 2" in diameter for the big shells), but the really big 4" stuff isn't generally available.  There are legal restrictions, but they are fairly easy to meet (i.e., get around), the main hurdle is becoming a member of the inner circle, which is a traveling, carny-type crowd.  They love to talk, though.  I think if we ever did this again we would start a little earlier, practice our accents and bad grammar to get certified (formally and informally) and go for the big stuff.

As it was, the fireworks show was a huge success.  Everybody was talking about it at church yesterday morning.  Bride and groom are back in Utah starting classes this morning.

Comments
From Burt on Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 15:56:54 from 206.19.214.144

You know it's good when they're talking about it at church.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.170.000.000.004.17

27F, wind NNW 3 mph wind chill 22F, long pants day.  Ran 4.17 miles in 48:58, average pace 11:45, low heart rate.

I feel pretty good today, my thigh is still pulling a little bit from the marathon but otherwise normal.  Given how hard I have been running on Saturdays, running this soon after a race is not all that different, at least that is how it seems right now.  They say you don't know until the next day whether you overdid it, so we'll see.

My daughter and granddaughters return home today.  My son-in-law has a couple of more interviews for his residency, then he is going home too, leaving the remainder of our family to rattle around in this house for the rest of the winter.  Decompression time, but slightly melancholy as well.  Nothing beats having a lot of family around.

Comments
From Huans32 on Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 08:39:52 from 138.64.8.51

Wow its nice and cold down there. Great job on the race again Flat. And great job getting out already and hitting the road. Looking very strong after the race.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.110.000.000.006.11

35F, wind ENE 5 mph, 31F wind chill.  Ran 6.11 miles in 1:11:12, 11:39 pace, low heart rate.  Left groin no better or worse.  I dressed two layers deep top and bottom, thinking it was going to be in the low 20s.  I started shedding clothes almost immediately and by the end wasn't even wearing gloves.  We have a cold front coming in, but this morning was not it.  On the other hand, some winters this would be one of the coldest days, it's just a lot colder this winter.

I was thinking as I ran about what I might be able to accomplish this year (more training wise than race wise), but concluded that I just don't know.  It all depends on how well I adapt to increasing training loads, how well I balance between pushing the envelope and staying healthy. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.030.000.000.008.03

50F, wind NNW 13-25 mph.  8.03 miles in 1:31:54, average pace 11:27, low heart rate.  The next two mornings will be in the low 20s, high teens, so I didn't mind this run even with the high wind.  I got a personal best 11:06 on one of my splits, as well as my best overall average, each by a little bit.  My low heart rate speeds are getting just fast enough that I can feel it in my legs.  That never used to be an issue.

We will by hyping our cold weather down here for the next few days, so just bear with us.  All of the plumbing is in the attics here.  The soil is clay and shifts too much to bury the pipes under the slab.  Works reasonably well until the pipes freeze.  Usually anything over 20 is safe, but there will probably be a run on wrapping material at Home Depot today.  I wrapped mine when the house was being built, about to find out  how good of a job I did.  My contractor wouldn't do it, he had the nerve to say it never freezes in Houston.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.040.000.000.0010.04

25F, wind chill 16 at start, 24F, wind chill 13 at end.  10.04 miles in 1:58:44, 11:50 minutes per mile average pace, low heart rate.  The weather is a big deal today, but it wasn't quite as cold as predicted, never is.  My face was frozen, luckily into a smile, but otherwise it was pretty manageable.  I'll be out in similar temperatures tomorrow morning for about 3 hours, but I don't think there will be as much wind.

Comments
From Burt on Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 09:25:01 from 98.177.216.165

How are those pipes holding up?

From flatlander on Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 09:41:41 from 70.216.49.233

Beg your pardon? Oh, those pipes. No issues, as long as it stays above 20 they won't freeze, and wind chill doesn't count except on people and pets. My hot water heater keeps losing its pilot light though. Plumber is here right now trying to figure that one out.

From lightitup on Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 13:42:46 from 67.185.20.107

Wow, that's colder than here. It was 10 with the wind chill yesterday; I am a treadmill wimp so wore a Gator...yeah. That didn't work out. Ended up inside to start the workout over. Dress warm tomorrow, arms, hands, and head, sounds like you're better at it than me.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.9610.000.000.0014.96

18F and calm, 14.96 miles in 2:28:46, average pace 9:57.  I "warmed" up for two miles then tried to run 10 miles at an 8:35 pace, which is what I have to run for a whole marathon to qualify for Boston.  I didn't make it, but I have lots of excuses.  My splits and average heart rate for the tempo part of the run were:  9:05 (154), 8:34 (164), 8:41 (166), 8:44 (169), 8:43 (170), 9:00 (170) (stopped to shed a layer, which promptly froze solid), 8:31 (168), 8:37 (172), 8:41 (169) and 8:57 (164).  I was looking real hard for a bathroom solution on the last split and lost concentration.  I jogged in the last three at a 12-minute pace.  My average pace for the tempo run was 8:45, so 10 seconds slow.  Plenty to work on.  I am going to earn every minute of marathon time from here on out.  My excuses are . . . never mind, I didn't make it.

Today is a record low for January 9, by one degree, breaking a record set in 1976.  It is by no means the coldest day ever, in fact it was warmer than yesterday because there was no wind this morning.  There was 3-day stretch in December, 1989 of  13, 7 and 11, which were three of the four coldest days on record here.  The all-time record for Houston is 5F, set on January 18, 1930, before plumbing.  So we are a ways from that and won't get close, thankfully.  My attic pipes which I wrapped myself 9 years ago held up just fine last night, unlike many of my neighbors, who have plumbing trucks in front of their houses this morning.

Comments
From lightitup on Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 10:43:54 from 67.185.20.107

Love reading your blog before going out on my run, nice of you to go so much earlier every day just so you could provide me with some extra inspiration! It's 25 here and headin up all the way to 30s.

From flatlander on Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 13:16:26 from 76.31.26.153

One of these days I'm going to do a slow all-night run. That ought to build endurance, plus I can have it all done by the time you wake up.

From lightitup on Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 19:47:10 from 67.185.20.107

I can see an ultra in your future...

From flatlander on Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 20:07:08 from 198.207.244.102

Those are a ways away. I have the marathon bug right now, but someday I will want to hit the trails, when I live somewhere that has good trails. I know nobody does it, but in order to be completely safe I think you need a running dog and bear spray. I can't see running a trail alone at night, though people seem to do it all the time, at least in races.

From Mack on Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 18:17:00 from 71.111.182.118

Good job Flat. Glad to hear you are surviving the cold. I would never have guessed that it can get that cold in Houston. Are you a native of Houston?

From flatlander on Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 18:41:26 from 198.207.244.102

I moved here in 1981, but I'm a first generation immigrant, always welcome but never a native. My kids, on the other hand, are native Texans. They speak without an accent! I once received an inquiry about returning to Japan where I served my mission. It was all very exciting until I saw the looks on everybody's face -- they thought I was crazy to even bring it up. That was that.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

48F, 10.25 miles in 2:05:38, 12:15 pace, low heart rate. 

I had to start work early this morning, so I didn't get my run in until the lunch hour -- took my phone and blackberry with me but didn't have to use them.  Just like Mack's experience, running later in the day slows things down considerably for me, today it was about 45 seconds per mile.  I drove out to a bayou I used to run a lot last year.  Sure enough, same old speed.  Actually, this was a speed I would have welcomed only a couple of months ago for low heart rate running, so I'm not really complaining.  Got in some good base miles and my mood improved considerably as a result.  Didn't hurt that by noon it had warmed up a lot from this morning's 22F low.  No more cold mornings for a while at least, back to the old routine.  It was fun while it lasted.

Comments
From lightitup on Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 00:44:42 from 67.185.20.107

Good lunch hour. I hope you got to eat too. I always run better in the afternoon.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.630.000.000.0010.63

30F, clear, calm and dry.  Also daylight.  10.63 miles in 2:04:39, average pace 11:43, low heart rate.  I finished up a work project at 2 a.m. and slept in a little before heading out.  It was pretty nice running in the bright sunlight without any heat.  My pace dropped quite a bit from yesterday as well.  Who needs sleep?  My legs are tired, though, should know in a day or two if I am ramping up the miles too quickly. 

Comments
From jasro on Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 17:04:27 from 198.50.4.4

Yeah, it's hard to know whether to run inside or outside wtih the weather like it is. I've read that the weather is a lot better in the morning, so I think morning runs are probably still okay.

I can't believe you are already up to 10 miles per day. I'm so impressed. I'll be watching to see how it goes.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.030.000.000.0010.03

33F, calm, wind E 4 mph, 91% humidity.  10.03 miles in 1:54:36, average pace 11:26 minutes per mile, low heart rate.  Finally back in the groove today.  As I was running I noticed the air traffic coming in low -- I live about 15 miles west of the airport and when the winds shift to the east we are in the glide path.  That's how I know the weather is changing, even though we are still 10 degrees below normal for these parts.  Much better to run here right now than in the Utah temperature inversion.  Y'all will get your revenge in a few months.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.030.000.000.0010.03

48F, light rain at start, steady rain at end.  10:03 miles in approximately 1:56, 11:34 average.  My Garmin went on the blink again, so I ran exactly the same route as yesterday and used the clock on my cell phone to get a time for the complete run.  I tried to keep it at low heart rate, so if my heart performed the same as yesterday I probably got it about right.  It actually felt a little harder for whatever reason, so I may have run too fast.  (I know that sounds funny at these turtle speeds, but I'm trying to stick with a program here.)

I will be running in Denver tomorrow, but it doesn't look like their temperature forecast for tomorrow is any colder than ours were over the weekend and early this week.  They expect 30F overnight, which for January must be warm for them.  Altitude is a different story, it always makes me work harder, and my wife has nixed turning the master suite into a hypobaric chamber.

Comments
From baldnspicy on Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 21:13:52 from 72.95.175.57

Nice job, Flat! Sticking to a program is the most important part, I think. It's easy to just go out and run, it's another to have a plan and to stick to it - whether it's fast or not. Stick to the plan and you'll have a method to the madness and will hit your goals! Keep up the great work!

From flatlander on Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 23:06:30 from 70.215.20.26

Thanks for the encouragement, Bald. Sometimes these slow miles can be boring, but there will be plenty of other stuff to mix in as the year progresses. Everything will be fine if I can avoid injury. Hope your training is going well.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.008.540.000.008.54

26F, 21 wind chill, 8.54 miles in about 1:24:40, average pace 9:48 per mile.  (The Garmin lap counter got full about halfway through, I got an accurate distance but some of the timing is messed up on it.)  I ran in downtown Denver this morning, out the hotel door on Grant, down 19th to Sherman, then Sherman to a building that looked like the Capitol (?), then swung out on Lincoln a little less than a mile to a river and turned upstream for about 2.5 miles, then back the same way.  I ran past a golf course that said DCC, which I assume means Denver Country Club, then through an upscale shopping district and into an office park type area before turning around.  I was happy to find a good open route with not too many street crossings and in a safe area.  I had to get back early for a breakfaast meeting so couldn't go a full 10, but it was a good run anyway.  Felt strong, but I wasn't pushing myself very hard, still it is nice to have one of these every once in a while.  My left knee, an old friend, was hurting yesterday on the plane and I worried about it.  Still worried some, but it felt fine this morning.  Seems to feel better when I go faster for some reason, probably a difference in my stride.

Comments
From Burt on Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:59:00 from 206.19.214.144

Did you get a Rocky Mountain high?

From flatlander on Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 16:06:58 from 70.215.255.233

Burt, good description, it was a fun run.

From Mack on Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 19:11:36 from 71.111.182.118

Good job flat. Way to get out and run when you are traveling.

From Jon on Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 21:27:25 from 75.169.136.232

Sounds like you ran past the Denver Country Club and Cherry Creek shopping center?

From flatlander on Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 21:57:27 from 198.207.244.102

Yes, that must be exactly where I ran. Are you from Denver?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
22.180.006.000.0028.18

48F, windy and rainy, wind chill 41F, out the door very early to run 20.23 in 3:31:29, a 10:27 overall pace.  It did this run a little differently.  I ran 5 miles at low heart rate, then thought I would try running 10 or 12 at a little faster than Boston pace, which is 8:35 per mile for me and faster than my last marathon pace by about a minute.  I kept up the pace for a while, but had to stop after 6.  Those splits and heart rates were 8:26 (157), 8:23 (166), 8:29 (171), 8:31 (172), 9:03 (172), 8:32 (173), for an average pace of 8:37, so I almost made it.  It was that 5th split that tanked my overall pace, and also the point where I knew this boy was not doing 10 of these today, much less 12.  I'll probably try it again in a week and go for 8 or 10, working up to this milestone a little more gradually.  Then maybe try for this pace for a entire half marathon which I am running in two weeks.  Whether I make it or not in the short term, I have enough time to get my time down this year.

So after bailing on the fast run at mile 11, I still had 9 to go.  Uh oh.  Death march to the end, starting out in the high 11s and ending up in the high 9s.  I'm not sure how much good I got out of those last miles, it was more a matter of principle.  I finished in just enough time to make some stake meetings at 9:00, but it was weird sitting in a suit and tie with quads still burning and a couple of sweat beads sliding down my back.  (Fully showered and hygenic, of course.)

P.S.  My son has a plan to get ready for the half marathon in Phoenix in two weeks.  Very simple, 8 miles today and 10 miles next Saturday.  His original plan was 8, 10 and 12, but last Saturday he got busy with a video game and then his friends called, so he revised his plan.  Disgusting, especially since it will probably work.  Last night he came home late under questionable circumstances, but I held back, something I am getting used to.  Instead I ran his 8 with him, it was actually 7.95 but close enough.  He thinks I am certifiable, but he was the one struggling.  We started out in the low 10s and ended up in the high 10s.  It wasn't like I was feeling good, but I could have held that pace for longer and he collapsed on the lawn.  Anyway, the point is that it was the thing to do, at his age parents don't get many chances to engage in memorable activities, and he won't soon forget this one.

Comments
From Burt on Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 18:38:41 from 98.177.216.165

28 miles? Are you nuts?

From flatlander on Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 18:50:29 from 76.31.26.153

Probably, he thinks so and I know he is waiting for me to keel. Won't happen, at least while he's looking.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 19:06:16 from 71.21.119.111

Wow, I was patting myself on the back after 9 today, nice run.

From baldnspicy on Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 00:43:13 from 72.95.175.57

Nice job! 28 miles! I think I may have hit that for the WEEK! You da man!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.020.000.000.0010.02

38F at start, 48F at end, 10.02 miles in 1:57:11, 11:42 average, low heart rate.  Was short on sleep over the weekend so I took advantage of the holiday and slept in almost until sunrise this morning.  The cloud cover left just as the sun came out, great run in the crisp bright air.  I started out feeling awkward with Saturday's run still in my legs. (My first split was 13:20 and my heart rate was unstable, if I throw that one out my overall average pace would have been 11:31, not great but OK for a Monday.)  After a while things loosened up a bit and my pace sped up through most of the run.  My quads never stopped hurting, haven't really had that issue before.  Always something new.

I think it is important for the low heart rate pace to get faster.  Whatever the benefits, or not, of running at low heart rate, I'm guessing that keeping track of pace at a particular heart rate is a way of monitoring how much overall improvement is occurring.  I think at a particular baseline heart rate it is possible to improve to some extent in the higher speed zones, maybe even quite a bit, but I think if pace at that baseline rate isn't getting better then overall potential is going to max out pretty quickly.  A long way of saying that if I could get my low heart rate speed into the low 10s I might start to see some interesting race times. 

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From Mack on Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 20:13:28 from 71.111.182.118

Nice job getting in another solid run. 10 miles on a Monday? Impressive no matter what the heart rate or pace!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.050.000.000.0010.05

59F, 100% humidity, 10.05 miles in 1:59:37, 11:54 average pace per mile, low heart rate.  Slower than yesterday for some reason, not sure why.  The temperature was higher and that might have affected it.  The air is so wet that the streets are wet even though the weather is clear.  Can't complain about the boring weather this winter, something different every morning.

I'm already thinking about, maybe even dreading, running hot this summer.  Not because of the pain but because I will be slower.  I figured out this morning that I ran St. George about 12% faster than my best 20-mile pace in the heat here in Houston running up to the marathon date.  So maybe that translates, percentage-wise, to faster paces as well?  For instance, if I could run 20 miles in the heat at an 8:30 pace, would that mean 7:35 per mile at St. George?  Seems doubtful looking at it that way, but that is what happened to me at slower speeds last year.  I know the heat is a big factor, and of course it all goes out the window if St. George is hot as well.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.070.000.000.0010.07

63F, rainy, light wind.  Ran 10.07 in 2:00:44, 12:00 average right on the button, low heart rate.  Slower than yesterday, but at least my legs feel better today.

Must be addicted to this blog.  I wasn't quite sure what to do with myself this morning when it went down.  It's great to have a place to post runs and to read what everybody else is doing.

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From Burt on Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:15:27 from 206.19.214.144

Yeah, I was freaking out. What am I going to do all day without the blog?

From Mack on Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 19:11:33 from 71.111.182.118

didn't even know it was down, but I would have been jones'n for it had I known.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.050.000.000.0010.05

59F, blustery.  10.05 miles in 1:54:55, 11:38 minutes per mile average pace, low heart rate.  Better.  The weather this morning was very spring-like.  I have seen large flocks of birds the last couple of mornings, too dark to tell exactly what.  I could tell from their voices that they aren't local.  Spring is an interesting time of year, lots of stuff to see living on an avian migratory flyway, but I hope it doesn't stay warm.  I like spring but it is too early, we'll be in trouble next summer if it warms up too quickly.

So the good thing about this week, despite slower times, is that I seem to have recovered from Saturday's run, which was too long, doing it on the run without cutting my miles back.  That is good information to have and I am pretty sure the times will fall back into line as soon as the temperature drops a little bit.

I plan to drive to Utah this weekend to deliver wedding presents that my son and his wife acquired at the Texas open house about three weeks ago.  So I'll probably do my long run in the morning before I leave.  Too much hassle to try to deal with that on the road, but I'm wondering what it will be like to sit in a car all day after doing a big run.

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From Huans32 on Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 09:56:00 from 138.64.8.51

Wow look at the miles for the week already. As for riding in a car after a big run. You can do it. Just make sure to stretch you legs by walking a bit every 2 hrs or so. Or it will be just miserable.

From crockett on Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:28:54 from 216.49.181.254

Funny, I had to do the same drive for the same reason. Three weeks ago driving back from Spring, TX to deliver wedding presents from the reception there. Should have loaded up my car with yours.

From flatlander on Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:42:00 from 76.31.26.153

Huans, thanks, and good advice. I tend to take very few breaks when I drive, my daughters won't go with me anymore. If I back off and follow your advice I should be fine.

Davy, that is very interesting. There are a lot of Texas/Utah connections. I live in Cypress, practically next door to Spring. Maybe I'll get to meet you in a couple of weeks. Still trying to see if I can put my schedule together to pace you for the last 40 of RR100. I am worried that I won't be able to keep up, but on the other hand it might make the miles go quickly for you if you have somebody to laugh at.

From jasro on Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 19:41:31 from 198.50.4.4

Your having a good week. Keep up the good work. I'd invite you to run with me this weekend, but I'm going down to St. George for the 5k. Be safe on your drive.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.118.000.000.0017.11

45F, bright and clear.  17.11 miles in 2:48:58, average pace 9:53 per mile, average heart rate 152 bpm.  The goal was to run 10 miles in the middle at 8:30, didn't make that.  My threshold mile splits and heart rates were as follows:  8:50 (159), 8:38 (164), 8:38 (169), 8:31 (170), 9:00 (170) (same split where I screwed up last week), 8:43 (172), 8:49 (173) and 8:48 (173), 8 miles at average of 8:45, about the same pace as I ran 10 two weeks ago, so that was a bummer.  On the other hand, I'm pretty sure I could have made my marathon goal of 9:10 per mile from 3 weeks ago, the one I couldn't do then.

I'm off to Utah today. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.140.000.000.006.14

30F and snowing.  Ran 6.14 "recovery" miles in Albuquerque, NM in 1:10:30, average pace 11:52, low heart rate, but didn't try to target any particular heart rate and it was a little higher than normal.

It started snowing just as I exited the hotel and snowed the whole time.  I planned to go 10.  Bopping along, even stopped to take a picture of my virgin tracks on the sidewalk (Burt, stay away from this one), thinking how great it was to be out running in a new spot in new weather.  I tested a couple of places and determined that there was no ice under the snow, but then there was ice under the snow.  I did whatever is the opposite of a face plant.  Landed directly on my back and the back of my head, alone in the snow (sniff, sniff).  If a runner falls and no one sees, did it really happen?  (Sorry.)  I was miles from home, so I just got up and kept running, but I cut it short and I am going to be very sore for the next few days, hopefully no other consequences.  I am changing my name from flatlander to FLATLANDER.

Gotta go, trying to figure out a way to get to Utah this morning.  I am driving a small, sporty, rear-wheel drive vehicle that is great on corners and inoperable on ice.  Seemed like a good idea on the car lot.

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From lightitup on Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 00:41:38 from 67.185.20.107

Someone should run with you, take good care of you, and not let you drive in the snow. Are you still alive?

From flatlander on Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 15:08:25 from 75.169.50.2

Thanks for the sympathy, E, unfortunately I know have to turn around and drive home, through the same stuff. If Albuquerque is still snowing I am not going to run in it again, so you have at least a compromise there. See you this weekend in sunny AZ.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.140.000.000.006.14

40F, sunny.  Got in from Utah late last night, slept in and ran in the sunshine.  A very pretty morning.  Ran 6.14 miles in 1:00:24, average pace 9:50, no heart rate monitor.  Started slow and accelerated gradually throughout the run, slowest split 11:07, fastest 8:59.

When I woke up on Sunday morning after my "back-plant" on Saturday morning in Albuquerque, I could barely move, my body hurt almost everywhere, like I had been in a bad car wreck.  So I took yesterday off and the object this morning was to assess the damage.  At the beginning it felt like I was coming off my summer 2008 back injury, OK to walk but unable to run.  I pushed through and everything in the core area felt better after awhile.  My shoulder is apparently injured -- my arm felt like it wanted to be in a sling, but as long as I held my arms high I could run without too much trouble. 

Oh my goodness, all the snow in New Mexico and southeastern Utah!  Monticello at 7000+ elevation looks polar.  The snow is piled 8 to 12 feet alongside the road in town, and the fences outside of town are almost buried.  The red rock country is very beautiful covered in a white blanket.  My parents who live in the Arizona high country are also buried in the stuff -- the highest mountain in the area got 6 feet of new snow at the top, and there are a couple of feet in town.  I think this storm must be some kind of record for that area. 

If I still feel good I'll probably return to a regular running schedule tomorrow, and it looks like I can run the half-marathon with all of my siblings this weekend in Arizona, although I will probably be slower than originally planned.  I am very thankful to still be on the road.  Running is a gift, as they say.

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From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 13:16:40 from 131.59.200.80

Glad to hear there's no long-term damage from your flat-landing. I did something similar a couple years ago (though not on ice), but going down a slide while holding my daughter (who was 1 at the time). The slide was high up off the ground and I landed squarely on my back. She ran off and played while I writhed around for a couple minutes. Would have been funny to watch, I'm sure.

Good luck on your half.

From jasro on Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 13:34:55 from 64.255.180.189

Yikes, sorry to hear about the setback. (No pun intended). I'm glad to hear it's not too serious. Don't rush the recovery.

From flatlander on Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 23:42:20 from 76.31.26.153

Slow, thanks, too bad our "calisthentics" aren't on youtube somewhere. My kids would love to see that, I bet yours would too.

Jasro, thanks for the wishes, and good pun!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.100.000.000.0010.10

48F, weather moving in.  Ran 10.1 at slow pace, but no heart rate monitor or GPS, which are on the fritz again.  Average pace about 10:40 per mile.  Still not feeling too great.  This morning it was my outside left hip, back again after bothering me some last week.  I almost stopped at 8, then decided to go on and it started feeling a little better.  Funny thing is, it disappeared immediately when I stopped, which indicates something like an ITB (doesn't the ITB band go the whole length of your leg?).  I'll have to do some internet sleuthing and see if I can figure out what it is.  My left groin also started out sore, but didn't bother me once I got going.  Neck and shoulder still sore from the fall and still have a little bit of a headache.  Other than that, everything is peachy.

I was accosted three separate times by dogs let out the front door by owners too lazy to walk them.  Incomprehensible to me why anybody would think that is OK, much less three different people on the same morning.  I am sure there must be something good to say about these particular dog owners.  Maybe no cavities?

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From Burt on Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:16:51 from 206.19.214.144

When the dogs come after you again, just play dead. Throw yourself on your back as quick and hard as possible so they really buy it. They'll be sure to leave you alone, especially if they can sniff your virgin footprints.

From flatlander on Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 15:26:42 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks for the advice, I have been mulling it over all morning. You're right, the only thing missing from that sorry scene in Albuquerque was a mutt sniffing at my face. Funny thing, though, I was in that particular location because I changed routes to avoid some dogs that were out running around -- no dogs, no fall. Trying to decide the meaning of me and dogs.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.100.000.000.0010.10

56F, wind E 6 mph, cloudy and trying to rain.  10.10 miles in 2:00:01, average pace 11:53 per mile, low heart rate.

Despite the very average pace this morning I felt a lot better.  Hip pointer was still there but subdued, and shoulder and headache the same.  Almost my old self.

I've been running a month now since my last race and I don't think I've improved much.  The half marathon on Saturday will provide some feedback, but I suspect my time won't be as fast as I would have predicted a month ago.  Might be time to mix things up a little bit, but whatever I do, I need to make sure I can withstand running consistently at these distances.  The main thing is to stay on the road.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.110.000.000.0010.11

63F rain and lightning.  Ran 1.07 then ran for cover, rain is OK, not lightning.  Then it blew through and I went back out, 50F, wind NW 8 mph, still raining.  Total run was 10.11 in 2:03:43, average 12:14 per mile, low heart rate.  Not a good run, hoping for better ones to come.

Off to Arizona tonight to run London's Run tomorrow morning (1/2 marathon version) with my siblings.  Maybe I'll get to meet Burt. 

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From Burt on Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 20:28:29 from 98.177.216.165

Sounds like this Burt guy is a real treat.

Race: London's Run (12.63 Miles) 01:48:44, Place overall: 147
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4.8812.630.000.0017.51

I ran London's Run today, the half-marathon version.  It wasn't quite a half-marathon.  They changed the course because of some serious mud and the new distance wasn't measured quite right, in fact it was short by a half mile, not that I was complaining by the time I finished.

Flew to Phoenix Friday night and met up with several siblings and nephews I had arm-twisted into running the race with me.  Turns out we are all over the map in terms of talent.  One nephew came in 5th overall, and one brother finished pretty late.  I was somewhere in between.

There were over 523 finishers in the half-marathon, and it was very crowded at the beginning on the narrow dirt track.  My goal was to get a Boston pace for the race (8:37 per mile) but when I saw the mud and the crowded conditions I quickly adjusted my expectations.  I was coming off a poor running week anyway.

I was a little encouraged when the first mile came in at 8:48, despite the conditions.  A couple of nephews who hadn't trained much took off like rockets and I figured I would be picking up body pieces at about mile 4, but I never saw them again until the finish.  Being smoked by untrained teenagers seems to be a common theme in my racing career.  I passed two brothers and eventually caught up to the third brother, who normally runs faster than me but has a bad hip right now.

I was struggling with the pace until I caught up with him, then all of a sudden everything clicked.  We talked and hit several splits below 8:30.  He stopped at an aid station and I told him to catch up with me.  Shortly after that the 10K and half courses split and he went the wrong way, running his own unique hybrid race.  (I did the same thing but corrected myself after a couple of steps -- didn't stop me from giving him considerable grief.)

Another theme of the day was pink.  Several women wearing pink passed me.  I was holding my own against every color but pink.  I managed to pass one of them and felt pretty good, but then she caught me at about mile 10, just like all the others.

But then just at that low point a runner coming upstream began yelling "Flatlander".  Yep, it was the one and only Burt, miraculously appearing to save the day.  We yapped away and before I knew it the race was over.  It was totally awesome for him to come out and pull me in, especially just after finishing a very fast 10K of his own.  Just a great guy, and got to meet his wife as well.  She took a picture of us which I hoped to post, but I am too lame to figure it out, so you'll just have to believe me when I tell you I really did meet Burt. 

I also got chicked by my sister, a fellow blogger who is making a surge this year.  We went back out for some cool-down miles after the race, which loosened up our legs and gave us a chance to look for lost siblings.

Here are my splits:  8:48, 8:39, 8:52, 8:16, 8:34, 8:26, 8:19, 8:27, 8:27, 8:45, 8:48, 8:51, 5:33 (8:48).  Average pace 8:37 per mile, which adjusted to a half-marathon distance comes out to 1:52:53.  That number is almost exactly half of 3:45:59, the age-adjusted marathon time I have to run to BQ.  So I was very happy to get this time despite my low expectations, and happier still to have improved since my last race, even though it didn't seem like I was making much progress this month.  This is my first half -- I didn't think I would like running this distance, but was surprised at how much fun it was.  I plan to run the Cowtown Half Marathon in Fort Worth at the end of February, and hopefully I can get my two teenagers to run that one with me.

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From Burt on Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 01:03:33 from 98.177.216.165

Haha! I don't know about saving the day. You looked pretty strong. It was great to meet you. I thought you'd look a little more like Dopey or Goofy, but you actually look quite distinguished. You had a great race.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 11:59:43 from 131.59.200.80

Wow, really great race for those conditions! BQ pace to boot. You're definitely close to a BQ from the looks of it.

You should do well in FW (no dirt roads)! My wife will be doing the 10k at Cowtown while I get to stay home with the kids.

From jasro on Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 16:39:19 from 198.50.4.4

Way to go!! You continually amaze me with your progress. I'm thinking a BQ is a real possibility for you this year. Keep up the good work!!!

From flatlander on Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 12:13:27 from 76.31.26.153

Burt, thanks again, it was great meeting you. Sounds like I should avoid those Disney marathons, they will think I am an employee and try to pull me off the course at an aid station.

Thanks Slow, maybe I'll meet your wife at Fort Worth. I'm easy to spot, Burt had no trouble.

Jasro, thanks, after thinking about it, I am chalking this one up mostly to a good day. My training results during January would not have indicated that much improvement.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.050.000.000.0010.05

38F, 10.05 miles in 2:04:24, 12:23 average pace, low heart rate.

I worked harder on Saturday than I thought, took a while to get going this morning and never got going very fast, although the kinks eventually worked themselves out.  My speed is still slow.

My sister pointed out something over the weekend, which is that if one's speed at the same heart rate continues to deteriorate, that is probably a sign of overtraining.  It seems obvious when I think about it, and a blessing, actually, because it might give one the ability to back off soon enough to avoid injury.  I can't think of another explanation for why speed at the same heart rate would decrease consistently over 7-10 days.  This is something I will be watching closely this week.

Shoulder is still pretty painful from my fall 10 days ago, but otherwise no remaining effects.

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From Mack on Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 18:33:37 from 71.111.182.118

Glad to hear your shoulder is on the mend!

Just curious, why do you run 10.05 instead of an even 10?

From SlowJoe on Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:28:09 from 71.21.119.111

I would think after blazing through a HM your pulse would be up a few days, but all my running knowledge comes from Google searches so maybe I'm not the best source.

Even though I'm trying to get up to high mileage myself, sometimes I wonder if all the 60-70 miles/week stuff is necessary for us mere mortals. If I run for the exact same amount of time and intensity as Sasha, for example, I might run 7 miles where he runs 10. But aren't we getting the exact same workout? Who knows, just something I've been wondering about as I build up my own mileage...

From flatlander on Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 12:08:13 from 76.31.26.153

Mack, I have quit trying to hit an exact distance or an exact time, I end up running circles in my cul de sac looking dumb. But sometimes it comes out the same anyway, only because it is the same route.

Slow, I think that running hard on Saturday definitely makes for a rocky Monday, at least that has been my experience. I just didn't expect it to be quite as slow as it was, and combined with several slow days last week I was starting to worry that I was getting signals. Today went better, so possibly that little episode is behind me. As far as workout intensity, I agree with you. I decided to just do what I could with the time I have. Right now that is about 2 hours a day, which comes out to a little more than 10 miles at low heart rate. I think some might say I should not run them all slow, but right now I am just trying to maintain the routine. I'll add speed as my legs get stronger, but I am somewhat conflicted -- the slow stuff seems to have been doing me a lot of good. So I have some things to think about.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.100.000.000.0010.10

48F, windy and trying to rain, felt cold.  Went out late and ran 10.10 miles in 2:00:09, 11:54 minutes per mile, low heart rate.

I was prepared to cut it short if my times were still slow, but I started hitting some 11s after the first mile and continued doing it, so I went the full distance.  Not a great run, but better than the last few.

Still have a lot of chatter going on in the family about Saturday's run in Queen Creek, Arizona.  It was a big success and we will probably do it again with a higher participation rate.  Turns out my sister won her age group, as did a second nephew running the 10K.  With results like that everybody is enthused to go at it again.  Of the 9 in our group who did the half or the 10K, only three or four were running when we organized this race about 6 months ago.  Running is contagious, probably the best thing about it. 

There was also a long-lost law school buddy running, finishing about 2 minutes ahead of me.  I didn't realize he was there until I got home and saw his name on the results list.  Good thing I didn't elbow him at the start line, or push him into the mud at mile 3.  I contacted him yesterday and he said he has been doing this for about as long as I have.  Lots of fun.

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From Huans32 on Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 14:05:29 from 138.64.8.51

Great run there Flat. Its always great to do runs with family. Building memories is what I call it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.040.000.000.0010.04

48F, wind E 8 mph and rainy.  It was dang cold out there.  Ran 10.04 in 1:58:27, average pace 11:48 per mile, low heart rate.

Somebody on this blog, can't remember who, posted a link (http://www.scribd.com/doc/13695/Gordon-Piries-Running-Fast-and-Injury-Free) to a long essay by Gordon Pirie, who I had never heard about.  He was an iconoclastic British runner, post WWII, a contemporary of Roger Bannister.  He was very, very good.  He beat Zatopek several times but apparently was not popular with the UK running establishment.  Very opinionated, thought anybody who disagreed with him was uninformed or worse.  In many ways his views are the antithesis of the Lydiard long slow distance theory, so I am doing things that would make him yell at me if he were still alive, if he even cared.  He thinks running long and slow all the time is a waste of time.  His basic thesis is that you avoid injury by acquiring good (by which he means perfect) running form, which includes wearing minimalistic shoes, after which you let it fly.  Frequent monster workouts (at his peak he ran 175 miles per week), lots of racing and lots of heavy weight-lifting.  Despite the temptation to laugh him off as old-fashioned, the guy got results.  And my recent habit of running long runs hard may not be that far off from his views.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.180.000.000.0010.18

49 F, wind NNW 5 mph, rain petering out.  It rained all night but stopped in time to run this morning.  Cold and dry is OK, wet and warm is OK, but cold and wet is uncomfortable for my delicate disposition.

Ran 10.18 miles in 1:56:55, 11:29 minutes per mile, low heart rate.  One of my better runs, nearly a best, especially since the first mile was in the upper 12s.  I got 11:27 about a month ago.  My left groin is still bothering me, the one that first popped up late in my last marathon.  It comes and goes, but right now it is here, and it takes two and a half miles to loosen up.  It isn't getting worse, so I'm just watching it for now.  I have been practicing my form a little bit, and I think that has helped my speed as well as keeping the groin pull in check.

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From Mack on Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 19:30:08 from 71.111.182.118

I'm impressed at the mileage you are putting in. Any time you are doing runs in the double digits during the week you have my respect and admiration! Hope you are able to get the groin injury healed up.

From Burt on Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 20:29:06 from 98.177.216.165

I need to get more consistent like you.

From flatlander on Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 13:49:59 from 76.31.26.153

Mack, thanks, it is still there this morning but maybe just a little bit better. I am concerned about what will happen running a long hard run tomorrow. Maybe I should just run easy but I'll see what it feels like in the morning.

Burt, don't be like me or you will end up slow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.170.000.000.0010.17

48F, wind NW 10 mph.  Got up early but had to work, so didn't make it out until later in the morning, then had to stop a couple of time to fix my heart rate monitor, then a client called so I had to stop for that.  But eventually I got going and ran 10.17 miles in 1:58:56, average pace 11:42 per mile, low heart rate, not as good as yesterday but OK under the circumstances.

The highlight of the run was following a garbage truck picking up cans in my neighborhood.  I was right behind him for a full mile, going about the same speed (2 mph).  Nice smells, but the guys were friendly and he wasn't trying to run me over.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.433.000.000.0010.43

41F, ran 10.43 miles in 1:49:39, average pace 10:43 per mile.  I had planned to run 20, 15 of them at a pace of about 8:30 or so.  I warmed up for 4 miles but never seemed to get completely loose.  Tried anyway, but it was obvious after 3 miles that I still had groin/hip problems in my left leg, so I shut it down and jogged in. 

Whenever I get an injury, it has been traceable to running too fast rather than too far, probably a geriatric problem.  This is the same groin that first acted up in my last marathon -- it came back a few hours after the half marathon a week ago and never completely disappeared during the week.  If I don't run fast I won't get better, so there isn't an easy answer, but I think going forward I will run faster but shorter and increase it more gradually, just like the slow running.  There are no important races on the near horizon, so I will probably shut it down completely this week, maybe try some machines or something so as not to lose ground.  My goal was to not let this happen, but it did.  Hopefully a week will be sufficient.

Two bits of good news.  First, I drove out to the Rocky Raccoon 100 last night (Saturday) in Huntsville, Texas, about an hour from my home, hoping to spot Davy Crockett.  I missed him because he was way ahead of schedule, but it was fun watching all the hundred mile runners come through the home aid station at the end of their third or fourth laps.  Davy a couple of weeks ago generously invited me to pace him (he doesn't normally use pacers) but I had to decline because of my leg.  Probably a good thing, I might have slowed him down.  Some other year.

Second, a friend who is an orthopedic surgeon came over today and we talked about running.  He doesn't like it too much, says the biggest problem is that it can eventually cause osteoporosis, but if I take lots of dairy I should be fine.  Time to add that Sam's non-diet rocky road 3-pack to the shopping list.

Back in a week for better or worse.

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From SlowJoe on Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 22:55:07 from 71.21.119.111

Bingo, ice cream is dairy too!

Bummer about the injury. I think the mental part (thinking you're losing the fitness you worked for by sitting out) is the worst side effect. Here's to a quick and full recovery.

From flatlander on Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 06:56:37 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks, I'll try to get in some machines this week and hopefully be able to maintain most of what I have earned.

From Mack on Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 20:12:44 from 71.111.182.118

Smart! Hope you have a speedy recovery.

From jasro on Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 17:39:01 from 198.50.4.4

Eat some ice cream for me too!! I eat a lot of dairy and I take calcium supplements too. I guess I won't know if it works for a few years.

I hope you get feeling better. You'll probably find that the mental break does you some good.

From flatlander on Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 17:42:16 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks guys. My leg is feeling better and it is only Tuesday, but running is different and I won't know for sure until I get back out there and try it out. The flavor of the day is mint chocolate chip.

From baldnspicy on Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:05:02 from 72.77.113.184

Good luck! I'll eat some ice cream for ya...I prefer Mint Chocolate Chip. Is that OK or do you insist it's Rocky Road? Either way, I'm cool...

From Huans32 on Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 08:16:40 from 98.202.0.57

Oh man Flat. Sorry to hear you have been taken out of action. Keep up some good xtraining and it you could come back even stronger and faster.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.060.000.000.001.06

34F, ran 1.06 miles in 14.10, average pace 13:21.

Well, that was a good week.

The groin injury is still there, but wasn't bothering me.  I feel OK after running very short and will monitor it over the weekend, but I am unsure whether to start running again.  I'll try to figure out some cross-training today and get started on that, at least.

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From SlowJoe on Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 14:47:09 from 71.21.119.111

Good to see a mile up there. Hope the groin cooperates next week, so to speak.

From lightitup on Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 19:24:20 from 166.205.8.122

Could this be an inguinal hernia?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.060.000.000.003.06

32F and sunny, 3.07 miles in 35:16, 11:31 average pace, no heart monitor.

Still feeling out whether I am on the healing side of my groin pull.  Hard to tell.  At times the pain was sharp but focused, like a small needle, at other times it wasn't there at all.  Most encouraging, it stopped immediately when I finished.  But this thing is not settled.  My son is going to show me some stuff at his gym today.

My next door neighbor has her grandparent's visiting and they brought their lap dog, a fierce little thing that got out of the garage when I ran by.  I was very nice about the whole thing.  See, I can be nice to dogs.

Such a perfect morning and no work.  Would have been a good day to go long.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.500.000.000.002.50

29F, ran slowly to the neighborhood rec center in the dark and went in, only to find all the ellipticals in use, at 5:20 in the morning.  There is never anybody in there when I run past the place.  I needed to start working on weights anyway, so I just started in.  I had to read the directions on the machines, but after awhile I noticed a pattern:  wipe off with towell, sit down, pick your weight, push or pull about 10 times, get up, wipe off with towell.  Finally an elliptical came free and I casually got on and made it go up and down. Had about a half mile on it before I glanced over at my neighbors' feet on both sides and noticed they were moving the opposide direction.  Sad to say, I was going backwards.  I got off, stretched, got back on and coolly changed directions.  Nobody said a thing, at least while I was there.  I fled into the darkness and ran back home.  My groin pull seemed less actute today while running, so maybe I'll leave them to their machines tomorrow.

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From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 16:41:21 from 131.59.200.82

That's a funny story. I wouldn't know what to do in a weight room either, but who could predict the machine would allow backwards pedaling? Maybe you were training different muscles going the other way, now you're the wise expert.

From jasro on Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 16:57:24 from 198.50.4.4

lol ... Actually I think most elliptical machines allow for both backwards and forwards pedaling. The backward pedaling works your glutes and upper legs more, while the forward pedaling works your hamstrings and quads and your lower leg muscles. So, no harm done. Glad to see your running again. I hope things are going well.

From Burt on Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 17:04:29 from 206.19.214.144

HAHAHA! Funny stuff. I recently saw an internet video of a guy that fell off a treadmill and his pants fell off. He pulled them back up, got up, and for a split second thought about getting back on the treadmill. Then he turned and fled. It was awesome.

From flatlander on Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:23:48 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, my son was supposed to help me, but he was nowhere to be found at that hour of the morning.

Jason, I think you just saved my week, thanks for covering for me on that one. Funny thing, it is exactly my glutes and upper legs I want to strengthen in order to get faster, so it appears I may have "stumbled" onto the right formula, I just need to sell the backwards motion a little more.

Burt, believe me, it wouldn't be my first appearance on the internet. My son-in-law, a Canadian with a warped sense of humor, recorded and posted my first attempts at skiing, and I think it got about 4000 hits. I'm hoping to not add to my library.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.080.000.000.005.08

29F, clear and cold.  Weather was perfect again, and I wasn't about to let another good running day go to waste.  Ran 5.08 in 58:33, average pace 11:43.

My groin pulled a little bit, especially at the first, but it subsided after a while and was replaced by a modest but noticeable hip pain on the same leg.  This is my new substitution theory of injury recovery.  Also, they all come back in a taper, in reverse order, according to my theory.  So never taper. 

Anyway, all the pain went away after 4 miles and I floated home.  If I feel good during the day today I'll probably do the same run a couple of more times before ramping up.

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From Mack on Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 20:29:50 from 71.111.182.118

Nice job Flat. Sounds like things are heading in the right direction with your injury. Keep up the good work!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

31F, clear and crisp.  Another great day in paradise.  Ran outside for 2.25, paying close attention to my injury.  It wasn't bad, but neither was it better than yesterday, so I pulled into the rec center and got back on the elliptical.  Now that Jasro has been kind enough to officially certify operating the thing backwards, I hopped right up and went after it.  There was a guy right next to me going forward, but I sold it hard and I think I got away with it.  Got 2.5 more miles that way, set on about level 3 of difficulty out of 8.  I accelerated through the whole thing and my legs were very tired afterward, but the elliptical motion does not affect my injury, so this is going to be a good backup if I can take the mental torture.  Even though I did the 2.5 backwards, I am adding it to my total for the day.  Runner math.

Then I did some weights and ran back home, another .25.  Garmin is on the fritz again, but I know what these distances are within a few hundredths.

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From Burt on Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 18:16:38 from 206.19.214.144

Oh no no no. You have to subtract it. Like when Ferris Bueller tried to put the car in reverse to turn back the odometer.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.080.000.000.005.08

51F, cloudy and windy.  I woke up at midnight with an epic cramp in my lower right calf, probably from doing too much backwards elliptical yesterday -- this must be my punishment for counting yesterday's backward miles as forward miles.  I made enough racket that my wife came running in.  As a veteran of childbirth she wasn't all that sympathetic.  But it kept me drifting in and out most of the night, and when I got up this morning I could barely walk.  So I dressed in street clothes, took my daughter and  her friends to school, ate a full breakfast and then cleaned out my in-box.  I kept walking around a bit at a time and it continued to improve, so I finally changed into my running clothes and went out.  No problem running, it only hurts when I walk.  The good thing about cramps is they go away, although I think once you get one in a muscle it makes you more susceptible to getting more in the same spot, kind of like a concussion.

Anyway, 5.08 miles in 56 minutes (Garmin is still recuperating), about a 10:55 pace.  Felt sluggish.  All the normal aches and pains are still there, but at least in my imagination they are improving, and by the end of the run I felt pretty good. 

My other daughter was complaining about aches and pains this morning.  Turns out she ran every day this week and I didn't know it.  She is probably a go for the Cowtown half marathon in a week.  I was considering dropping out because of my own aches and pains, but I can't do that if she is powering through like this.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.090.000.000.009.09

52F, cloudy but dry.  Ran 9.09 miles in 1:31:22, average pace 10:03.  Pretty stiff and sore to start but gradually loosened up as I ran.  Every mile was faster than the last, starting at 11:22 and ending at a 9:09 pace for the last partial split.  It felt pretty good to run a little faster with no significant pain.  Went and cleaned the church afterward -- an hour and a half of bobbing and weaving behind a vacuum seemed to help.  So far so good, looks like I will be able to pick up the distances a little next week.

There is an ad on this entry page for a Nordstrom Rack grand opening in Houston.  I can't figure out how they know I am in Houston or how they ended up running a Houston-specific advertisement on this blog -- I'm sure Nordstrom Rack isn't opening a store in every city where FRB bloggers live.

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From SlowJoe on Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 21:21:34 from 71.21.119.111

Looks like you're back on track, good to see.

From baldnspicy on Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 07:08:06 from 72.95.177.56

Nice job! Looks like Nordstroms knows you need new clothes. ;-) Based on my wife's comments lately, I'm sure I'll be getting a ton of clothing retailer's ads on my pages. Hey look, a Old Navy ad on this page! Weird!

From flatlander on Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:46:41 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks Joe, feeling a little better every day. Hope you're not looking at anything long-term with your knees.

Bald, there are a lot of people who would agree that I need new clothes. Losing weight is not the only reason, I just have a bad fashion sense. I don't mind looking good, at least in theory, but I never throw anything away.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.180.000.000.006.18

48F and blustery.  Ran 6.18 miles in 1:13:29, average pace 11:54, low heart rate.  Back to a normal routine today, though my miles are still lower than before.  I can tell I have lost some conditioning.  The plan is to run a half at the Fort Worth Cowtown Marathon this Saturday, but I will run it with my kids at their speed if they come, which is a little slower but fine for where I am at.  More important that they have fun anyway, and I am still a ways away from adding much speed.

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From lightitup on Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:45:06 from 67.185.20.107

I looked at that but couldn't quite commit, sorry. Having some minor but scary Achilles tendonitis issues; patience is still not my strong suit! I can tell you to be patient tho.

E

From Burt on Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 15:01:27 from 206.19.214.144

Nice almost 10k. I hope your kids have fun at the Cowtown Marathon. It's just a half, right?

From flatlander on Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 18:12:17 from 198.207.244.102

It never occurred to me that I was 0.02 short of a 10K. I could have run my driveway and made it. Yeah, it is a half. They also have a 10K, a full and a 50K as well as some kid events.

From Burt on Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 18:14:07 from 206.19.214.144

And with a name like Cowtown, you can't go wrong.

From flatlander on Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 18:16:14 from 198.207.244.102

It beats running with the bulls.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 23:11:32 from 71.21.119.111

Looks like a fun race, and not that "flat" considering it's TX. My wife looked up her entry and they had her in the system as an ultra runner. She wanted the 10k, so she's trying to get it changed. I tried to tell her to go ahead and do the ultra since she got a big discount but no dice.

From flatlander on Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 07:29:15 from 198.207.244.102

Yeah, I keep forgetting about the hills. My kids are afraid they won't be able to make it for a full 13.1 and I haven't told them about the hills. I hope they aren't right, I'd like them to have fun doing this. That's funny about your wife's race, at least to everybody but her.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.770.000.000.007.77

42F, wind N 10 mph, cloudy with weather moving in -- they are predicting snow tonight, but I don't believe it.  Ran 7.77 in 1:34:15, average pace 12:08, low heart rate.  I felt really good today, when I saw my average pace I knew why.

I stopped at about 7.5 and did weights.  Wish I could say what I did.  Some arm stuff and some leg stuff.  I just looked at the pictures.  Anything with glutes I hopped on -- I'm trying for a bigger you know what.  Anyone who has seen me knows that is an ambitious goal.

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From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:48:48 from 71.21.119.111

Good stuff! I need to beef up a few areas as well. The system that I'm guessing is the one coming your way has dumped 3 inches of snow on Abilene already and it's still coming.

From lightitup on Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 13:24:26 from 67.185.20.107

Sitting here in an ice bath. Hood luck with the glutes. I know this Thurber always gets a flat butt at the first thought of running. No prob gaining weight everywhere else tho. Maybe 80 miles a week with 2 days of glute weight lifting? I heat it's needed for power and SPEED.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.007.910.000.007.91

47F, wind NW 14-19 mph, sunny (we actually got snow flurries yesterday afternoon, but nothing stuck).  I ran at lunch today because my son called this morning on his way to school from seminary.  The transmission on the truck blew out.  Nice little present to start the day.  The debate is whether to buy a new transmission or a new truck.  I pointed out that I could buy a transmission every year and still be better off than getting a new truck.  Plus trucks are supposed to be old.  The older and uglier the better.  If I see somebody driving a truck that is too fancy, like with GPS, heated seats and mood lights, I think he is a poseur who probably doesn't own a good socket set.  My son and his mother, on the other hand, think that is just fine and would add a custom sound system to the list.

Oh yeah, the run.  I went 7.91 miles in 1:13:06, average pace 9:15 per mile, no heart rate monitor.  That is about where I wanted to be, the goal was to air it out a little bit and see if my injuries stayed away.  They did, and after I ran the second mile in 8:54 I thought I might as well run the rest of it at that pace.  Well, it didn't happen, never saw another 8 the whole run.  I have lost some conditioning to be sure.  The wind was pretty hard and I don't like baking my skin in the noonday sun.  But those are mere excuses.  You are what you run.

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From lightitup on Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 16:07:04 from 67.185.20.107

You're back. Rock on brother. :/

Icy Hot is my rage of the day. Put it on wherever it hurts, let it loosen it up, then ice it after the run. It's working on the Achilles!

E

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 16:48:36 from 131.59.200.80

Great run, is it kind of nice not knowing what your HR is?

I agree with you about trucks. I bought mine after I graduated college in '01 and people ask me when I'm getting a new one. It only has 90K miles on it, it's practically new!

From flatlander on Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 16:00:43 from 198.207.244.102

Elaine, in high school we used to have something called Atomic Balm, it would make your skin burn pretty good, used to put it on just before a race. I wonder if it is like Icy Hot?

Joe, there is certainly an amount of freedom in not running to a certain heart rate. I usually pay for it later, though. My truck is a Ford F150 year '00 and it has about 120K, so they are pretty similar. Is yours a Ford? My wife thinks we could make a good deal on a Tundra right now, I guess she thinks I have a pretty sweet life insurance policy.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 17:40:33 from 71.21.119.111

Yep, sound like she's trying to get rid of you! Actually I've heard good things about Tundra. My truck is a Chevy (Silverado). When I turned 16 I got my dad's 1970 Chevy pickup so I learned to drive on that; there was a bit of loyalty there I guess.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.770.000.000.007.77

29F, clear and calm, great running weather.  Ran 7.77 in 1:32:46, 11:57 per mile, low heart rate.  This is the same exact run as Tuesday, down to the stop for weightlifting at 7.5 miles.

My groin hurt all night after running "fast" yesterday, but it didn't really bother me this morning.  All the aches and pains disappeared at mile 3 and never came back.  I like the idea of doing weights toward the end of the run rather than after.  It seems that running the extra quarter after lifting gets rid of quite a few kinks.  Some people in the weight room acted like they were waiting for me when I came in, said they saw me all the time and wondered how far I run.  They seemed impressed, even though most people on this blog regularly do similar workouts.  I guess it is just a different world once you get serious about running.  But I'm gonna have to start running in the dark more, I hate to make a spectacle out of myself.

Current drama at the house is whether to buy a new truck -- stay tuned.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.180.000.000.008.18

49F, cloudy and slight breeze, nice running weather with no gloves or beanie.  I ran 5.2 after taking my son to seminary, then had to take my daughter to the bus stop, then went back out for another three, totaling 8.18 in 1:37:29, average pace 11:55, low heart rate. 

I am going to fix the old truck, so there is no joy in mudville with this stick-in-the-mud old dad.  Everybody but me wanted a new truck, even the wife, although she understands the economics better than some of my math-challenged teenagers.  In the meantime life in the morning is complicated getting everybody off with one less vehicle.

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From SlowJoe on Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:45:38 from 131.59.200.82

Good for you! Sounds like our family growing up - dad never would buy the new stuff (car, TV, etc.) even though he was outnumbered 4-to-1. But now that I'm a dad I know I'll be the exact same way. Reminds me of an old Harry Chapin song...

From jasro on Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:16:30 from 198.50.4.4

I'm glad to see you are back and running well. Good luck with getting your truck fixed and dealing with the resulting drama.

Race: Cowtown Half Marathon (13.1 Miles) 02:05:21, Place overall: 1892
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.0013.100.000.0013.10

34F, clear and cold.  This was not supposed to be a race report today, just a run with my son and soak in the atmosphere.  My time reflects it, a full 13 minutes slower than my previous half in Phoenix a month ago.  The plan was to run at about an 11:00 pace to ensure that he finished.  He came up lame early in the race, bad shin splints.  We tried walking about a half-mile but he only got worse, so I sent him back and finished it by myself.  By that time there was no hope of getting a good time, not to mention the fact that I have been recovering from my own injury and don't have the conditioning to run well -- even if I did I wouldn't want to push it hard for fear of re-injury.  Still, I ran as fast as I could given the sudden change of plans.  I don't have mile splits because the memory in my Garmin filled up halfway through the race.  That was also frustrating.  The race results show me doing quite a bit better overall (1892/4753) than in my age group (114/197).  The same thing happened in Phoenix.  I need a new age group. 

One good thing, I don't appear to be having any trouble recovering.  No lingering pains or stiffness of any note, even though I hopped into a small car immediately after the race and drove all the way back to Houston.  I figured I would need to be manhandled out of the automobile, but I was fine.  Secondly, I ran negative splits -- toward the end of the race I was approaching my previous pace, so I am probably going to be OK.  Finally, due to my hopeless position when I started running, I must have passed over a thousand people -- I improved by about 700 places just from the 10K mat to the end.  I was almost never around anybody who was running my speed.

A couple of interesting things happened.  I was following a group of runners for a while with blue t-shirts that said "The Pine Cove Team".  I wondered where that could be.  All of a sudden this neighborhood we were in went crazy, and the blue boys started high-fiving and body-bumping everybody.  Obviously, we had entered Pine Cove.  Good thing I waited to pass them.

Also, some course confusion, if that is possible in a race this big.  The marathon and half-marathon groups ran together for about 8 miles and some change.  Then at about mile 11 there was old man questioning some officials about where the courses split.  He said "I am in the marathon".  Pretty sad, I'm pretty sure he didn't finish his race.  And the kids 5-k turned into a 1.8 mile race because a cop on a motorcycle stopped to direct traffic, everybody ran the wrong way and nobody stopped them -- wonder how they found their way back.  Lots of chaos today, 21,000 people in a relatively small area created some tough logistics before, during and after.

Here's to better races.

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From SlowJoe on Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 09:33:27 from 71.21.119.111

Nice running despite the setbacks. Tough break for your son after making that 4-hour drive to FW. My wife gave similar reports about the crowds. Sounds like it worked out to be a good training run for you at the very least, with some speedy miles in there. I've only run 1 big race but I was passing people at the end and it helped my psychee at least. Anyway, nice run.

From baldnspicy on Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 00:44:21 from 72.95.177.56

Nice run! Glad to hear your not feeling it and you're feeling recovered. Tell your son to hang in there and get back on the horse! Those shin splints can be painful!

From Burt on Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 12:01:57 from 206.19.214.144

That's good news that you're recovered from the injury. Man, that's a lot of people racing.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.010.000.000.009.01

53F, cloudy and intermittent rain.  9.01 miles in 1:53:43, 12:31 average pace, low heart rate.  Must be hung over from Saturday, even though I don't feel sore or fatigued.  In my "heart" I know what I did on Saturday.

This run was late in the afternoon.  Last night I woke up from a wierd dream at 4 a.m., but got up and went to work instead of heading out, I had some leftover stuff I planned to get done over the weekend but couldn't.  So I didn't go out to run until later, which is always tough and never produces good results.  But a run is a run and I appear to be recovered from all of my ailments, just slower than slow.  I practiced running like a Kenyan for one mile and went even slower.  Guess I'll stick to Western European.

Lots of dogs out getting walked, several off their leashes, but I changed my route several times and avoided any direct encounters.  I'm working on becoming a better dog person, but they still don't like me.  I need to buy Dog Whisperer for Dummies.

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From lightitup on Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 20:57:07 from 67.185.20.107

You are one motivated person. Wish I was related to that! As for me, I seem to have defected to dailymile and runningthroughthecorn...haven't found your popularity here. :) I'll keep checking on you here though.

E

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.080.000.000.009.08

43F, clear and gusty.  9.08 miles in 1:47:36, average pace 11:51, low heart rate.  Started out pretty rocky after running last night, but got into a rhythm after a couple of miles and it went fine.  Stopped near the end of the run to do weights, then finished it off.

I have my first 5K this weekend, got a free entry at work.  I'm going to do some speed work tomorrow, such as it is.  I need to mix things up since I haven't been getting faster lately.  Injuries are the pits.  They put you way behind schedule.  And they lead to morbid thoughts, like the ones I had after the first two miles this morning:  What if I get slower and slower and don't know why, then I finally go to the doctor and find out I am on my last lap?  Then the sun came out, I got faster, and everything was fine.  Time to buy an Ipod.

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From Burt on Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 12:15:50 from 206.19.214.144

So you'll buy an IPOD, but you won't buy a new truck???

From flatlander on Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 12:30:49 from 198.207.244.102

Don't get me started. My other vehicle went out yesterday too, so we are having last week's discussion all over again.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 14:11:08 from 131.59.200.80

When the sun comes up, it does wonders for me too on those early-morning runs. Sorry about the untimely vehicle news.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.009.120.000.009.12

45F, calm and waning moon.  Couldn't run this morning, had a roomful of clients all day long, then went to eat.  It was 10:00 when I got home, and I have to start early again in the morning, so it was out the door or miss maybe two days of running.  I had intended to run fast on this one, but started out slow with a full belly, good thing I don't imbibe.  First mile was 10:23, last full mile 8:34, last partial split 7:59 pace.  9.12 miles in 1:24:35, 9:16 average pace, no heart rate monitor.  I ran about the same pace as in the half marathon on Saturday after the first two slow miles dealing with my son's shin splints.  Not that I was happy about that race, but tonight wasn't bad considering the circumstances, especially happy that I could accelerate through the whole run.  Maybe it is time to start running mile repeats, but not this week.  Felt a couple of twinges tonight, hopefully that is all it is.

Comments
From Huans32 on Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:01:40 from 138.64.8.52

Awesome run. I just love having a good progressive run like that. Where you just keep getting faster and faster. Very good job.

From jasro on Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 15:41:13 from 198.50.4.4

Nice job. I'm glad you have recovered from your injuries. Keep up the good work.

From Mack on Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 19:21:42 from 71.111.182.118

Nice job flat!

From lightitup on Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 21:28:08 from 67.185.20.107

Wowzers. Next we've got to get you in an ice bath.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.110.000.000.009.11

48F, calm.  Another night run after being in a conference room all day.  9.11 miles in 1:47:44, average pace 11:49 per mile, low heart rate.  Before I ran I went to my son's gym and he showed me some of the weight machines.  Then halfway through the run my daughter joined me, so it was a good night.  I never get company in the morning.  Was also pleased that I could keep a pace below 12 minutes after running hard last night.

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From Mack on Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 03:38:38 from 71.111.182.118

I thought I was the only one who did those crazy night runs. Glad to see I have a little company. Also glad you got to spend a little family time too!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 11:22:01 from 131.59.200.82

Yeah sounds like a good couple of runs at night. Hopefully work slows down for you soon (as long as that's a good thing). Are you still doing a 5k this weekend? I was thinking of signing up for a local one they're holding on the 20th just to see where I'm at.

From flatlander on Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 11:33:50 from 198.207.244.102

Mack, what was so great is that she called me wondering where I was. Cell phones are great.

Joe, yes, I still plan to run a 5K in the morning. I may do my long run tonight to accommodate it. I ran again this morning (haven't posted yet), so it is a lot of miles all of a sudden, but I feel fine so far, although my 5K time will be abysmal.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.030.000.000.007.03

44F and calm.  Ran 7.03 in 1:09:03, average pace 9:50 per mile, medium heart rate.

I was time constrained this morning with work and taking my daughter to the bus stop, plus it was only a few hours after Thursday's late run -- I decided to run anyway since I may need to do my long run tonight, given a full weekend schedule.  So the thought was to see what my speed would be at about 150 bpm, and this is what I got, though it bounced up to 160 from time to time.  Actually, my heart rate was fairly erratic at these speeds, not steady like when I run at 130, probably a sign that I am not adequately conditioned in this zone.

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From Mack on Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 01:18:36 from 71.111.182.118

You have really been more hard core than usual since getting past that groin injury. Are you training for an upcoming race?

From flatlander on Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 16:54:57 from 75.233.51.209

Mack, don't know about hard core, but I did have a 5K today, which was fun and I did better than I expected, with no measureable effect from the groin injury. So crossing my fingers hoping it is behind me. I don't have any more marathons scheduled until in the fall.

Race: Women's Center Race Against Violence (3.15 Miles) 00:24:22
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.620.000.003.1519.77

Kind of a complicated day but a good one, a 5K race sandwiched inside a long run. I intended to run long last night but I thought it would put too much stress on my recovering legs after already running yesterday morning.  So I ended up with a race and the need to get in a long run today.

The race is a local charity event to raise money for the Women's Center.  It is well-backed and it is for a good cause.  I usually don't pay attention to these sorts of things, but this is an important cause and one that doesn't get enough support.  These institutions hide battered women and their children, in addition to performing a host of other services.  They do a good job and have always been well-funded in this community.  I liked the atmosphere at the race, very positive but you could tell people were serious about this issue.  I was happy to participate.

This is the first time I have run a 5K race, so I wasn't sure what to expect.  I thought it would be good to get there early and do a few slow miles so as to be loosened up for the race.  What I didn't want to do was re-injure my groin, especially since running fast got it injured in the first place.  This turned out to be a pretty good strategy.  I got there an hour and a half early and ran about 10K before the race, 6.22 miles, average pace 10:58 per mile, range 11:09 to 10:39, basically a steady pace.  I felt ready to go.

Then I went to the start line.  The race started in downtown Houston and headed west and back to the start line, basically an out and back with a loop in the middle.  Weather was perfect, about 50F with a light breeze.  I met up with some people from work (our firm was a contributor) and suggested a team strategy session, which suggestion was politely ignored.  That's why they call them fun runs, nobody was interested in taking out the other law firms.  That was the last I saw of any teammates.  I lined up fairly close to the front.  After the gun went off there was a little bit of jockeying around as people tried to find their pace.  I wove in and out for a couple of hundred yards, accidentally elbowed and apologized to a woman who wasn't too happy (especially given the subject matter of this particular charity), then I was free to run my own speed.  Lots of practice from Fort Worth last week and from driving an old sports car with a radar detector, but I digress.

Even though there were lots of runners, most of them were either good or purely recreational, then me running alone in the middle.  I marveled that I had so much room to run in a short crowded race like this.  After the first half-mile I passed very few people and even fewer passed me.  I felt like I was pushing the pace a little but it wasn't too bad.  I was afraid given my recent training adventures that the first mile would be low 9s, but it came in at 7:24 (171 bpm).  This is by far the fastest I have run a mile since high school.  Something paid off big time.  The next mile was 7:44 (184 bpm) which I also thought was good.  By then I figured I could make this happen.  I was very tired and lactic acid was building up, plus the last mile was a little bit uphill, but I hit 8:03 (187 bpm) and then a 7:57 (188 bpm) pace for the stub split at the end.  (My heart isn't supposed to beat that fast at my age, but it does and I am not complaining.  It gives me more upside, I think.)  Total time was 24:22, average pace 7:44.  This is not a fast time by the standards on this blog, but it is faster than I thought I could run and I am happy with the result.  I measured 3.15 miles on my Garmin -- admittedly not the most accurate measuring tool but I still think the course was a little long, and I won't get an official time or place for 2 weeks.  That's what you get when the sponsor is 501(c)(3) -- nice people but not razor's edge in the organizational aspects. 

They gave out age-group awards right after the race.  I didn't see any old guys running fast, so there is a possibility I might have placed, but I didn't stay around.  You can bet I am going to check the times of my co-workers as soon as I can.

I went back out and finished my long run as soon as I cooled off a little bit.  By this time it was getting hot.  I ran from downtown along the course route and then west to Memorial Park, which is the primary running location in Houston.  That place was more crowded than the race.  It was truly a great morning for running here.  Altogether I did another 10.35 miles, average pace 10:25, progression from11:25 down to 9:42 pace.  I was pretty tired but felt a lot better once I sucked down a chocolate milk shake.  I tell anybody who will listen that I run drug-free, but that isn't entirely true.  Chocolate is a drug.

Comments
From lightitup on Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 15:58:55 from 67.185.20.107

You rock!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 17:05:19 from 71.21.119.111

Wow, really really impressive day. That extra speed should be able to help get you to your BQ soon, I would think. I wouldn't be surprised if you placed very well in your AG if you didn't win it. The high heart rate seem like an even more promising statistic. I've played golf at Memorial quite a few times (before I started running) and always thought those runners were nuts wasting their weekend like that. Now I want to try it there next time I visit the folks. They live maybe 3 or 4 miles from the park. How was it?

From Missee on Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:43:12 from 75.169.149.68

What a race report!!! I can never remember my races in that much detail! Good job!

From flatlander on Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 15:07:44 from 198.207.244.102

E, yeah, I had one in my shoe, don't know how it got there.

Joe, I love running there. I live out in Cypress, so Memorial Park doesn't fit in my schedule much. Good vibes, lots of fit people and people hoping to get fit.

Missee, thanks for the feedback. I notice you are very fast. Good 5K for you too yesterday, by the way. I know you were hoping for a better time, but it looked plenty fast to me.

From Mack on Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 17:02:25 from 71.111.182.118

No doubt a BQ is somewhere in your future. That is a GREAT time in the context of your other PR's. And then you go put in more miles later? Well done! I'd say you earned your chocolate milk shake.

From jasro on Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 14:29:09 from 198.50.4.4

I'm sorry, I haven't had a chance to look over your blog until now. That is a very impressive race performance. I really like 5ks because they give you a good sense of your fitness level. They force you to go fast because they are so short, but they are long enough that you have to respect the distance. Anyways, good job.

From Burt on Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 00:42:42 from 98.177.220.145

Very nice pace Mark. And thanks for telling me where they're keeping my wife.

From Burt on Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 00:51:45 from 98.177.220.145

Oh, one more thing, and this is the dorky engineer in me coming out. I took a couple of the local races I've done and plotted out the times in different incremental time intervals on bar graphs. There was a distinct pattern on both graphs. Each one had two humps for lack of a more scientific term. In other words, there were a few fast runners followed by a group of solid runners, then a gap, then another group of casual runners followed by the slow runners and walkers. My guess is that you were on the tail end of the solid runners, and that's why you were on your own a lot.

From Burt on Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 00:52:02 from 98.177.220.145

What? I told you I'm a dork.

From flatlander on Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:42:41 from 198.207.244.102

Mack, thanks, I had a few more shakes this week just to make sure I was caught up.

Jason, thanks, I think I like 5Ks because the leaders are only minutes ahead, not hours.

Burt, good analysis, I think that explains perfectly what was happening in my 5K. Sounds like the best place to be is in front.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.670.000.000.007.67

55F pre-rain and breezy.  I ran at low heart rate for about an hour and a half, then lightning and thunder appeared so I scampered home.  No tolerance for that kind of weather, the thunderstorms can get violent around here and need to be respected.  Total of 7.67 miles in 1:35:50, average pace 12:29, mostly at low heart rate.  My legs felt fine despite running longer on Saturday and from running the 5K -- until I tried to rush home.  My "scamper" pace was a sizzling 10:09, I knew then why I was so slow all morning.

I have been running about two months since my last marathon and have made some progress despite an injury -- as best I can tell, consulting the McMillan Calculator to translate my Phoenix half and Saturday's 5K to the marathon distance, I would have a good chance of running a typical marathon about 10-15 minutes faster right now.  My half marathon time of about 1:52:45 translates to 3:57:47 and my 23:58 time for Saturday's 5K (adjusting the distance from 3.15 to 3.1, assuming my Garmin measured the course more closely than the fun run crew) translates to 3:53:39 for the marathon distance.  On January 1 I ran 4:13:45 although I am pretty sure I could have run 4:10 with a less aggressive strategy.  So some real progress it appears, but I will be re-evaluating this week, trying to decide whether to stay the course, correct a little, or move in a new direction.  Lots of factors as I turn 55 later this month, embracing a new age group and a new BQ time of 3:45.  I woke up at 3:30 (a.m., not BQ time) with all of this on my mind.  One advantage of getting a little bit older is having more time to think.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.300.000.000.0010.30

64F, cloudy but no rain.  Ran 10.30 in 2:01:27, average pace 11:48, low heart rate.  Everything seems back to normal this morning, although temperatures are almost in the summer range, hopefully only temporarily.

I just read Burt's entry from this morning and happened anyway to have been thinking a lot lately about things more important than running.  My mom has had cancer for a while, although she has other age-related issues that will probably take her first.  And two families I home teach (church-related visits) also have cancer in the family.  In one, an older lady has been fighting it for years.  She expected to pass away about two years ago.  She and her family spoke of it openly and made plans -- but instead she is in complete remission and happy as a lark, as are her family obviously.  Never met a sweeter lady.  Then in the last month the father in the other family, 4 young kids, got a rare form of esophogal cancer.  He starts radiation and chemo on Monday, so I will be going over there on Sunday night to try to help.  I talked to him last night.  He and his wife had a long session yesterday with the head doctor on his team, a very talented and caring woman who told them she will not let him die.  We have world class cancer facilities here at the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, possibly the best, both in terms of scientific prowess and legendary compassion.  It seems like they cure stuff that nobody else cures.  I had a colleague 15 years ago who got brain cancer, an aggressive form with a 5-year survival rate under 15%.  He actively researched and pursued all avenues here in Houston and also ended up with very good care.  His cancer eventually stabilized and he quit his job and moved to Utah to be close to both familes.  He can't practice law anymore, but is an instructor in the philosophy department at BYU and in the last year has seen one son finish a mission and a daughter marry very well.  Sometimes life can be bad for a while before it gets quite good.  Other times the inevitable happens, I have seen some of those in the last year as well.  So best wishes to anyone out there who is struggling.  Struggle well. 

Comments
From Missee on Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 12:01:44 from 173.14.225.246

Thank you for that post!

From Burt on Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 13:15:06 from 206.19.214.144

Thanks Mark. Struggle well used to be the MichelleL's blog title.

From flatlander on Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 15:08:31 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks Missee and Burt, and Burt thanks for the heads up. Apologies to MichelleL if she happens to see the entry.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 15:37:35 from 131.59.200.82

Nice words - my wife's mother is going through cancer treatments so I'll pass along the uplifting stories.

From flatlander on Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:43:30 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, thanks, best wishes to your mother in law.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.100.003.000.0010.10

74F, windy and dry.  I got up early and worked 4 hours, then went out and ran 4 warmup miles in my new shoes (see below) with my daughter.  Then I changed shoes and went back out for some faster running.  I ran another mile slow, then 3x1 mile with 1/2 mile rest intervals.  The first two threshold miles were 7:46 and 7:44.  I didn't get a split on the third one since I am a klutz with the Garmin, but I think it was a little slower.  Then one mile warm down.  Overall I ran 10.10 in 1:39:51, average pace 9:53 per mile, no heart rate monitor.  Good run, first trial of the year in the heat, our answer to training at altitude.

I bought some running flats and first tried them out for one mile yesterday.  I found that I was faster at the same heart rate.  I wore them for 4 miles today, but I am trying to be careful since they tug and pull on different muscles and tendons -- once I am used to them I think they will be a good choice.  Here is what they look like (thanks to Burt for the tutorial on posting pictures):

This particular pair is Brazilian (Jinga) and somebody at work told me they look good.  That was not my intent, but OK.  They are cheaper than regular shoes but I am skeptical they will last as long.  Even though the soles are made of PVC, I can already see a little bit of wear after 5 miles.  But man it feels good to run right on the ground.  If they don't last I'll find something else that will, but I suspect I will be going in this direction if it helps to minimize injury risk.

 

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From Mack on Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 19:56:55 from 71.111.182.118

Nice workout! I think it is very cool when you can run with one of your kids. Simple things like that are what our kids will probably remember most.

Nice shoes. Did you have to go to Brazil to get 'em?

From flatlander on Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:12:25 from 198.207.244.102

Mack, I like the way you think. I think if I buy enough pairs I will save enough money to pay for a plane ticket to Brazil. That's what I'm going to tell my wife.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.270.000.000.0010.27

60F, cloudy and calm.  Ran 10.27 miles in 1:59:27, average pace 11:38/mile, low heart rate.  I was pleased that I felt good enough to run this well after the hard mid-day run yesterday.  I stopped again before the end of the run to do weights and I can feel those more than the run.

I am trying to decide which mixture of workouts will help the most this year as well as longer term.  Not sure if the same plan would be optimal for both goals.  One choice is to keep doing what I am doing until I stop improving.  Another is to take the LSD guys at their word and never let my heart rate exceed 132 for three or four months.  Another is to run some really long stuff at least once a week, to try to beat the final 10K in the marathon.  Or I could jsut do what most people do, which is more harder and longer runs.  Or mix and match.  Plus I really need to do something about my form.  Suddenly October doesn't seem so far away.

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From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 14:56:47 from 131.59.200.80

Is October your big goal-marathon?

As far as the training mix, I'm not qualified to give anyone advice but switching it up (short, long, fast, slow, etc) makes a lot of sense to me to work the different muscle fibers and work on both speed and endurance. It's helped me so far, but just about anything would have as out of shape as I was. Looks like you're going at it the right way so far, based on your race improvements.

From lightitup on Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 15:20:13 from 67.185.20.107

All the advice givers out there recommending speed or distance, but not at the same time. Two to three hard workouts a week....long runs greater than 18 miles every week is a little much. If you are tolerating them fine, then that's great. I am advised to do really long runs every other week.

And what is wrong with your form? Are you thinking of moving more into a midfoot strike? BTW, loved your racing flats.

E

From flatlander on Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:55:34 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, yeah, I'm hoping to run St. George again in October. It is a great marathon and fast, targeting it as my BQ if things go well this year. Thanks for the advice and encouragement. To me that makes the most sense. In a way that is what I have been doing, I just need to do as much of it as I can sustain long-term.

Elaine, how long is "really long"? Over 26.2? I've kind of been letting it fly on my long runs because I always have the next day off, although I have cut them back quite a bit lately as I work my way out of the groin injury. I am already striking mid-foot or even a little forward of that. But I am anything but smooth and strong. I would like to find a coach who is really good at form, to the point that unless somebody saw my face they couldn't say how old I am by watching me run. Right now, no problem guessing my age. I'm thinking somebody who is a running coach first but also certified in pilates so they know how to make the right muscles strong.

From lightitup on Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 13:43:38 from 67.185.20.107

The general consensus seems to be anything over 18 miles is long enough you should slow it way down, especially if you are doing it every weekend. There are speed workouts and endurance workouts; they shouldn't go together except in a race.

Ahem. That's what "they" say. I am still learning, the hard way, to follow. And best of luck on finding a coach! You need one who lives there, it sounds like. Mine is online and has only met me once and never assessed my form. I think he has benefited me though.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.070.000.000.0010.07

50F, wind N. 10-20 mph but clear.  Ran 10.07 miles in 1:51:17, average pace 11:03/mile, low heart rate.  I ran the whole thing in my flats and beat my best previous average pace by about 25 seconds per mile.  My average for the run was better than my previous low heart rate best for a single mile, and today I got my first mile with a 10 in front of it, 7 of them actually.  As best I can tell, the flats improved my speed at the same effort by about 30 seconds per mile.  Yesterday was 11:45 per mile, coming off a speed day on Wednesday, but I am guessing in regular shoes today I would have been around 11:30/mile and would have been happy.  If this is really true it could translate to a free 10-15 minutes in a full marathon.  My reason for switching is to go longer periods between injuries, I wasn't expecting a speed windfall.  It may not hold up, but for now I am impressed.

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From Burt on Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:27:07 from 206.19.214.144

It's gotta be da shoes!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
27.670.000.000.0027.67

49F at beginning, 66F at end, wind WNW 18 mph, ran 27.67 miles in 5:03:35, average pace 10:58 per mile.  The theory on this run is that I have been getting killed the last 10K of every marathon.  I hardly ever run more than 20 miles and sure enough, right around mile 20 I lose it every time.  I think younger runners can get through the last quarter by digging deep, but for me I am what I ran getting ready for the race.  So I am thinking that if I start running 30+ miles twice a month I can get that monkey off my back, or at least make him lose some weight.  So for a while instead of running 15-20 hard every Saturday I am going to run longer but easy about every other weekend, and for now keep doing hard runs on the other two weekends as long as I can tolerate them.

Today I planned to make 30 but it didn't happen.  Is that what they call a DNF?  I ran the first 10 at low heart rate, almost exactly 12:00 per mile.  Then I picked my heart rate up to 150 for the next 10, which equated to about 9:45 to 10:00 per mile for a while.  But then my heart rate began edging up pretty fast, like the needle on an overheated engine, so by the time I got to mile 22 or so I was getting pretty trashed -- it felt remarkably like a race.  I pushed through to the marathon distance in 4:45:13 (a time I would have killed for at St. George last fall) then kept on a little further before getting to the house and deciding to pass on the extra loop.  My wife called just after I reached marathon distance, wondering where the heck I was, then she called me a slob when I told her I had decided not to do 30 -- she was just kidding of course.

I think if anything this run proves that I need to do more of these.  Those last miles are really tough and I think it is naive for me to assume they won't be tough in a race if I haven't been running them to get ready for the race, even if I only run them easy.  So there you go.

I am thankful to be relatively injury-free and to have the health to run. 

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From jasro on Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 16:44:23 from 72.62.172.79

Wow, that is some serious mileage. Incredible job. I was thinking of doing a couple of those runs next August in preparation for St. George. You'll have to let me know your impressions.

From flatlander on Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 18:15:39 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks, you can bet I'll be reporting on it throughout the summer, so by August I should know whether it helped. I think the main thing is to be out running, everything else is good but it's just fine tuning.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 20:12:57 from 75.23.41.184

I think it would be hard to argue that you didn't help yourself a lot today toward your marathon goal. I have never run half that far. As far as cutting out a loop, I don't think it can count as DNF when you've already done 27 miles. Nice going.

From lightitup on Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 22:14:29 from 67.185.20.107

This makes my 22 with a water stop seem pretty puny, wow! And 76+ miles this week, I was proud of 45. Hey, I still am. :). Check out the long report on runningthrougthecorn.

It certainly sounds logical. Amazing your body is handling it so well...I know I couldn't handle that much mileage and going hard every weekend. Great job.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.220.000.000.0010.22

63F, foggy then clear, wind ENE 12 mph.  Got a late start after getting some work out the door.  Ran 10.22 miles in 1:58:38, average pace 11:38 per mile, low heart rate, flat shoes.

No observable effects from Saturday's run, though my lower calves and foot tendons were still a little bit stiff from Thursday's run in flats. That situation worked itself out about 3 miles in to the run, then I got sore again toward the end.  I don't think it will amount to anything, though, progress seems good, especially for a recovery run.

I loved the weather today.  It was a little warm for a long hard run but just right for an easy one.  The fog was cool and wet at the beginning, which was nice, then when the sun burned it off that was nice too.  Squirrels are multiplying unchecked with no natural enemies, a couple of robins bouncing around.  Gotta love the spring, we don't get many of these days.

Comments
From Burt on Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:56:27 from 206.19.214.144

Of course squirrels have no natural enemies. They're just too dang cute!

From RivertonPaul on Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:11:52 from 67.42.27.114

Nice miles.

From flatlander on Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:00:27 from 198.207.244.102

That's the difference between me and you -- I was planning an assault with a pellet gun.

Thanks Paul, hope you can hit the road full time soon, I admire all the pool work and other cross-training you are doing in the meantime.

From Burt on Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 16:29:24 from 206.19.214.144

I admire his blogging skills.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

57F, cloudy and trying to rain.  Then it did rain.  Good running weather.  Ran 10.25 in 1:55:16, 11:15 per mile, low heart rate, regular shoes.  Also did weights toward the end of the run.  Gotta get better at those, not sure what I am doing.  This was my best low heart rate pace so far in regular shoes, so safe to say I have recovered from Saturday's run.  I had a lot of stiffness from running in flats yesterday and a little bit tender on the bottom of my right heel, but it all went away this morning once I got going.  It is spring break here this week, so no early morning schedule at the house other than my own.  I got more sleep as a result and that may have helped.

Comments
From Burt on Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:04:20 from 206.19.214.144

How do you recover by running 10 miles???

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.600.002.500.0010.10

49F, clear.  Ran 10.10 miles in 1:39:04, average pace 9:49.  I warmed up for 3 miles then ran 20x200 with equal rest intervals.  The fast legs averaged about 7:35 - 7:40 (slowest 7:54, fastest 7:27).  The intervals weren't exactly 200 meters since I didn't have that distance set as my automatic lap counter, but the paces are pretty accurate because that's what Garmins do.  These weren't terribly fast, even for me, but I was concentrating on keeping good form (pushing off instead of reaching out) and not pulling too hard on my left groin.  I think I did OK in that regard but even so I might could have taken them a little faster, I just wasn't sure what to expect.  I am on a quest to be less identifiable as an old man from a distance, and I think doing short fast intervals is a way to lengthen my stride, to coin a phrase. 

At the end I ran another 2.1 cooldown at 10:29 and 9:29.  Overall I seem to be OK. 

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From SlowJoe on Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:46:11 from 131.59.200.80

I like that "quest to be less identifiable as an old man from a distance." I was just thinking the other day that my I bet my warmup shuffle makes it seem like I'm 80. 20 200s is quite impressive, especially since it looks like you only rested for 200 (or less) inbetween.

From lightitup on Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:58:41 from 67.185.20.107

I wonder how you would do with Yasso 800s....

From flatlander on Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 17:30:16 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, thanks, but it really wasn't much. I was happy to get through it with no obvious damage, but I need to get better. Someday I'll post video of my form, but only when I can do it in a "before and after" format.

E, I hear conflicting opinions about Yasso's. I haven't tried them myself but I'm almost thinking that I should be doing mostly MP and all-out short sprints, for those days when I am not running long and slow or lifting. What is the theory on Yasso's?

From lightitup on Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 17:36:30 from 67.185.20.107

I have too but thought they were enticing, I started my running by being an 800 meter runner...Bart Yasso stands by them. If nothing else they are a confidence builder that you are capable of attaining a certain time. In your case when you are worried about speed, being able to do 10 800s at 3:45 with 3 minutes and 45 seconds of rest between each should boost the morale. Then again, I haven't done them myself! I've been meaning to ask my coach about them.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.260.000.000.0010.26

48F, a little bit windy but clear.  Perfect running weather.  I ran 10.26 miles in 1:51:46, average pace 10:53 per mile, low heart rate and flats.  My feet seem to be adjusting to flats pretty well, still a little soreness in my right calf.  The first mile was 12:03, second 11:03, everything after that below 10, including a 10:37.  This is the first time I have averaged under 11 for LSD, and with weather scheduled to warm up soon it might be a while before I see these splits again -- but to put it in context, today was 3:40 seconds per mile faster than a similar low heart rate run 1 year ago, 30 seconds per mile faster than I ran St. George less than 6 months ago, and 1:10 per mile slower than I ran the Texas Marathon about 2-1/2 months ago.  I have often thought that if I could get to 10 flat at low heart rate I might see some interesting marathon times.  Weird how this metric goes long periods without improving then moves significantly over a one or two-week period.  Too bad LSD isn't an Olympic event.  The last time I saw an LSD event was in the '60s and luckily I was too young to participate.

Also did some weights near the end of the run.  I need a weight coach.

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From lightitup on Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:21:00 from 67.185.20.107

Love your attitude. I just read an article about how if you are over 40 you are never going to PR, you need to plan to keep going downhill, don't do speedwork, etc. I like your attitude much better and you are proof of the pudding, which I don't know if they have in Texas, but at least I know I can get my LSD there. Will you drive me home?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.060.000.000.0010.06

47F, wind ESE 5 mph, clear.  Perfect running weather.  Ran 10.06 in 1:50:52, average pace 11:01 per mile, low heart rate, regular shoes.  So even in regular shoes only 8 seconds per mile slower than yesterday.  Either that means I was better today or the differential between regular shoes and flats is not as great as I first guessed.  Either way a good run.

I spent all day yesterday putting together some Ikea furniture for my daughter's friend's new bedroom.  It says "some assembly required", but the desk, dresser and armoire came in boxes of pieces, little tiny pieces that look like they were collected from an explosion at a tinker toy factory.  Managed to get it all put together though, even had a few pieces left over.  We loaded it all up in the pickup, put on the flashers, took it over and unloaded it, got some Tex Mex and didn't get home until late, but glad it was done.  Now that I think about it, all that probably slowed me down a little bit this morning.  Gotta get some paying work done today.

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From SlowJoe on Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:31:52 from 131.59.200.82

It looks like you're making some great improvements in fitness. The flats would be a bonus; let me know if you reach a conclusion on whether they are actually worth it.

I hate, hate, hate IKEA. We used to go to the one on the Katy freeway when we lived in Houston and my wife would get so excited at the furniture and prices, but all I could think of was how many hours I would have to spend putting this together. I applaud your efforts.

From baldnspicy on Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:42:55 from 167.164.3.140

Wow, nice long run! I'm impressed!

I've never done IKEA furniture, but I hear it's pretty good. It's nice of you to put that together for a daughter's friend. "Some assembly required" is similar to "batteries not included" you know it means you'll either be doing work or paying more in batteries than the thing actually cost. Neither are ideal.

From flatlander on Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:25:44 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, thanks. That is the same IKEA we went to! They sell some good hot dogs there -- not good for me, but at 50 cents I had to eat one out of principle. And by the third piece of furniture I was getting pretty good at it.

Bald, yeah, batteries for things that move are a loser every time. They work OK in phones and calculators, but that pink bunny wears out a lot quicker in real life than in the commercials.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.129.000.000.0021.12

60F, cloudy and getting ready to rain.  Perfect running weather.  This run was not very successful.  The plan was to run a couple of warmup miles then do 20 at an 8:30 pace.  But I couldn't do it.  I warmed up one mile then ran 7 at that pace:  8:30, 8:31, 8:25, 8:16, 8:37, 8:32, 8:45 -- average pace 8:31, not bad but I couldn't hold the pace any longer.  I dialed back to a jogging pace, about 11:30 for 5 miles, then about 11:00 for 2 more.  At this point I was at mile 16 and decided to try again.  I did mile 17 at 9:34, jogged a mile (9:56), then did mile 19 at 9:00, then cut back to 11:00 for the last two miles.  Overall pace 10:02 in 3:31:52.  By this time it was raining.  I got in my car and drove back over the course to pick up my used water bottles, came home soaked and took a long hot shower.  No ice baths for this boy.

I am not improving quickly enough.  I may have to scrap some of the low heart rate focus and start running hard during the week, building up a little at a time hopefully to be able to withstand the extrera stress.

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From SlowJoe on Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 15:23:53 from 184.79.24.255

Still a great run, in my mind. 20 miles at BQ pace already (in the midst of training) would've been quite a feat. I think we all doubt whether we stress ourselves enough in training since improvements never seem to manifest quickly enough.

From RivertonPaul on Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 17:24:32 from 75.169.26.228

Nice miles, big week. You might up the heart rate just slightly but the low heart rate training does take time. At some point, however, you do need to kick it up for a period of time.

From lightitup on Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 20:24:27 from 67.185.20.107

Find a coach you trust. I'll pay. :D

Really I agree with SlowJoe....you're asking way too much for 20 miles at this point, basically race pace, well basically THE race, on a heavy mileage week. Next to impossible. If you could have done it I would say you're going way too slow during the week. Find a plan you trust and a genius coach who will work with you every day, not just plug in an overall plan and disappear.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.763.000.000.009.76

41F, wind WSW 9 mph, clear, perfect running weather.  Ran 9.76 in 1:38:54, average pace 10.08 minutes per mile, flat shoes.  I ran the first 6.5 at low heart rate, average pace about 10:55, was surprised to find no fatigue in my legs from Saturday.  Then ran 3 at a little faster than 3:45 marathon pace, splits 8:34, 8:20, 8:17, then jogged it in because I was out of time.  This morning's pace was faster than Saturday and didn't seem to require as much effort.  At times I could feel a certain smoothness and rhythm, but not sure how it would have looked on YouTube.  The flats always feel good, I'll probably be wearing them every day before long.

The revised plan, if it holds up, is to add more speed work during the week by picking target paces and gradually increasing the miles at that pace, then pick a new pace, all at the end of the run.  Hopefully I can get past some of my speed issues by getting in more, shorter sessions with quicker recovery.  The bottom-line question here is whether one would get more benefit from running 3 ten-milers or 1 twenty-miler at the same speed.  Right now I am betting on the former, but it is just a bet.  Feels good to do something different, though.  That may be the main benefit.

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From Huans32 on Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:36:52 from 138.64.8.52

Enjoy the great weather while it last. It has been great up here too.

From baldnspicy on Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:19:10 from 72.77.125.47

Nice run! What flats are you wearing? I think mixing it up some is always good. I find that a different route, or a different goal pace/finishing time or even a different time of day helps me to keep it fresh. I have some favorite routes that I run because they're convenient and somewhat scenic, but lately I've been trying to work in some different types of hills or surfaces. That change has kept is nice and I don't get bored with running.

Looks like you're doing great, though! I'm impressed!

From baldnspicy on Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:21:55 from 72.77.125.47

Oh, and I'm paranoid that someone is going to video me running and post it on Youtube. I can just see some pimple faced teen working at the local 7-11 posting my running from the security camera tapes. It would be humiliating, I guarantee it. If this happens, will you represent me when I sue 7-11? :-)

From flatlander on Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 13:05:05 from 198.207.244.102

Huans, thanks, that what I heard about your weather up there.

Bald, I ordered some flats from Brazil, a brand called Jinga, totally flexible with a thin sole and no support, so you get the barefoot effect without wearing toe shoes. I'm hoping they will help prevent injuries. And yes, I will be happy to represent you against the first guy who puts you on YouTube.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.110.000.000.0010.11

39F, clear, calm and cold.  Perfect running weather.  Ran 10.11 in 1:52:21, average pace 11:07, low heart rate and regular shoes.  No weights today, I had to run ("run" meaning get in the car and speed) to the dentist for a 6-month checkup, which ended up as a wallet checkup in the form of a crown replacement.  I love it how everybody sneaks out of the room when they take an X-ray.  I wanted to ask where everybody was going, is there a problem, should I leave too?  That lead bib might be a good training device.

Yesterday I walked into Houston's biggest running store to see what they had in running flats.  Wrong term.  Running flats, as currently sold by retail establishments, look like regular running shoes with rigid soles and big heels, just a little bit less of them and a lot lighter.  The kind of flats I have, flat flats, are nowhere to be found in traditional running stores, at least in this pretty big store.  Apparently there is some sort of a speed issue with flat flats.  Not an issue for me at my speed.  The guy told me, with a little bit of a smirk, that the Kenyans run barefoot until they can afford shoes, then never go back.  But he did acknowledge that Nike's own research shows that less is more when it comes to injury rates -- at least he gets a couple of points for owning up to that one. 

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From SlowJoe on Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 20:29:23 from 184.79.24.255

Interesting info. I'm still dumb about shoes, I just buy the cheapest Asics trainers since they feel fine and I don't know any better anyway. Did you try the "running flats?"

From flatlander on Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 23:03:26 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, I did not try them. They looked to me like they were designed to feel like regular shoes, just very light. Apparently they are not training shoes -- most guys use them primarily for races because they wear out quickly.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.515.000.000.0010.51

57F, wind SSE 6 mph, gathering clouds.  Perfect day.  Ran 10.51 miles in 1:40:57, average overall pace 9:36 per mile, flat shoes.  First 5 miles at low heart rate, average pace 10:44, fastest low heart rate pace so far.  Second 5 miles at marathon pace.  Goal was 8:30 per mile but I went too fast, that is a hard zone for me to find.  Splits were 8:21 (156 bpm), 8:22 (163 bpm), 8:17 (167 bpm), 8:14 (170 bpm) and 8:06 (173 bpm), then jogged it in.  It was hard but not that hard as long as I concentrated on form, particularly trying to push instead of pull with my feet.  The last time I timed 5 miles was a turkey trot back in November, and this morning's run was 2 or 3 seconds per mile faster, at the end of the run and without going all out.  I won't really know until tomorrow morning if I ran too fast, but so far the new program seems to be working well.  Funny how bad days like Saturday can make the good days look better than they are.  If I had been able to run 20 miles at 8:30/mile on Saturday, then this morning's run would have been nothing.

Then I stopped to lift weights but I was locked out -- my right index fingerprint wasn't working.  So I have to get a new fingerprint today.

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From Huans32 on Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:45:13 from 138.64.8.52

Great job on the run Flat. Those paces can be tough to find for sure. I just try and look at my watch a few times in that first mile and then try to dial it in slowly. Looks like though you kept dialing it up and up. Slow it down speedy.:)

From Mack on Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:18:52 from 71.111.182.118

Nice workout Flat!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.070.000.000.0010.07

50F, wind WNW 9 mph and clearing after a night of thunderstorms.  Puddles everywhere.  Perfect.  Ran 10.07 in 1:50:47, average pace 10:59 per mile, low heart rate, regular shoes.  I felt some fatigue in my legs at about mile 7 so was glad to finish.  And some tightness at the end in my left Achilles, opposite of the one that has been giving me problems.  I'll run easy again tomorrow morning and if all goes well do my long run tomorrow night.

I just got an e-mail yesterday telling me to get off my butt and go pick up my age group award for the 5K I ran on March 6 -- before they put the thing in the wood chipper.  Turns out I got third.  Out of six.  But I beat the other runners at my firm by a fair margin.  Just a bunch of pasty-faced lawyers.

Update:   Got my award.  Must be a major award.  I'm going to put it on my credenza right next to my Ralphie statuette.

 

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From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:52:07 from 131.59.200.80

Sounds like a good plan on the easy running. From a guy who just got 1st in his age group (out of 2), congrats! At least you beat more than 1 guy. But much more important to beat the people at work, well done.

From lightitup on Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:27:36 from 67.185.20.107

you are doing so well!

From Burt on Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:17:48 from 206.19.214.144

I've been meaning to reprimand you for not posting any pictures yet. It's about time! Nice job on the 3rd place...out of 6 :)

From flatlander on Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:31:29 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks Burt, I'm brimming with pride here. About actually posting a picture, I mean, not the award itself -- I'm properly humble about that. Gotta take better pictures in the first place though. The focus isn't too great, no way to really focus up close with a cell phone I guess.

From Burt on Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 13:26:16 from 206.19.214.144

A very obvious camera phone picture, but a picture nonetheless. That's all that matters.

From Burt on Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 13:27:29 from 206.19.214.144

lightitup - you haven't blogged in forever!

From lightitup on Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 18:59:43 from 67.185.20.107

hey Burt, thx for noticing. I'm on dailymile, FB and our running blog...runningthroughthecorn.blogspot.com. I just come here now to hear about Mark!

I think he's going to be 3:30 by St. George!

E

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.070.000.000.0010.07

45F, clear and sunny.  Another great day in the neighborhood.  The run today was as close to a carbon copy of yesterday as possible, although I ended up running it a little faster.  Ran 10.07 in 1:49:24, average pace 10:52 (7 seconds per mile better than yesterday), low heart rate and regular shoes.  No further stiffness in my left Achilles.  Was going to cut this run short because of running long tonight, but I felt good and finished it off.  Tonight the plan is to run slow and as long as possible.  We'll see what happens when the rubber actually meets the road.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
27.000.000.000.0027.00

51F, it was a dark and cloudy night (but not stormy).  Ran 27.0 miles in 5:26, average pace 12:07 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  I ran at a very steady pace the whole run, thinking that if I ran slowly I could go as far as I wanted.  I didn't get started until about 11:00 because on the spur of the moment I had to help deliver mulch for a high adventure fundraiser for my son's troop.  Because of that, I finished the run about 4:00.  I probably would have been targeting finishing about then anyway but just hoping to run longer, but the last two miles were surprisingly difficult.  Before then I was holding a fairly steady heart rate and a very steady 5 mph pace, though my heart gradually climbed about 10 bpm over the course of the run.  Then the last two miles it dropped about 6 bpm, almost in the original zone, probably because my pace slowed, though I felt like I was working harder than ever -- supposedly heart rate tracks how hard you are working, not speed.  The feeling of working hard may have been related to some nausea that unexpectedly showed up late in the run. 

I was surprised at how difficult this run was.  I felt the marathon monkey on my back right at his usual spot, mile 21 or 22.  Everyone says yeah, yeah, you only have enough energy in your muscles to run 20 miles, you are supposed to bonk, but the ultra guys are just getting warmed up at this distance -- I think there is a whole lot more to this equation than glycogen stores.  I drank water whenever I wanted it, not that often really, and ate crackers, but at the end started to get that sloshy stomach feeling followed by nausea even though the pace was slow and the weather was cool.  I felt better a couple of weeks ago when I ran the same distance at a faster pace on less water and no food.  Not sure why, maybe running at night.  The biofeedback from this run was interesting, particularly the heart rate.  I think that I can sustain these types of runs about every other week and I think the effort required even at this very slow pace shows that I need them.  I am happy to be talked out of all of that though -- it was not a particularly fun run.

Off to IHOP.  I turn 55 tomorrow and I am going to try to order off the senior menu one day early.  Hopefully they don't card me.

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From lightitup on Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:49:27 from 67.185.20.107

I can't believe your sweet wife lets you do this....that is 77.5 miles this week, holy guacamole! I am so excited to get my first 50 mile week in, and I NEVER run at night....however, I would love to run at night with you sometime. Do you run with an iPod or what do you think about all night, wow.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 15:51:44 from 184.79.24.255

Wow! In a way it was like a 37 mile day for you plus whatever heaving much bags cost you. Super-impressive.

From baldnspicy on Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 19:52:42 from 72.95.172.184

Nicely done! Highly impressive! That's a lot of miles in the week, but a lot on a day where you get out late after working hard before!

From Mack on Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 01:35:56 from 71.111.182.118

It seems to me that your training has really ramped up the past month or so. I always thought of you as just a regular mid packer sort of guy. I'm starting now to think of you as a hard core running machine. What is motivating you???

From flatlander on Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 14:40:47 from 76.31.26.153

E, sorry, for some reason I thought I had already replied, hope I didn't put it on somebody else's blog! My sweet wife doesn't care as long as I run when everybody else is asleep. Mostly that is in the mornings, but sometimes it comes to this. No IPOD, though, I find myself such an interesting guy that I couldn't tolerate interrupting my thoughts with mere music.

Joe and Wes, thanks very much for the encouragement, I admit it was hard getting out for this run and hard finishing it.

Mack, part of the rampup is from coming off of an injury, but nevertheless you probably asked the fundamental question. I am hoping to find my limit, seems like a funny thing for an old guy to be doing but for some reason it seems like an important thing to do. Besides, with the times I have posted I am safely out of hard core territory.

From Burt on Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 22:55:39 from 98.177.220.145

Nice marathon plus. Happy birthday. I hope we can still be friends now that you're a senior citizen. I love IHOP so much I took my wife there for Valentine's Day once.

From flatlander on Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 23:42:09 from 76.31.26.153

Absolutely. Funny you should say that, because my doctor a couple of years ago told me to make friends with younger people so that I don't outlive them. Kind of goulish but practical advice -- not sure what the younger guys get out of it. Actually, any blogger on this blog is an instant friend no matter the age.

Your wife is a patient woman.

From jasro on Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 23:48:50 from 68.29.254.59

Happy Birthday!! What an amazing week you've had. I am mightily impressed. Thank you also for your kind words. It's nice to know I can count on at least one person to read my blog. It keeps my accountable ... lol. If I get tempted to skip a run, I know that flatlander will see that I am slacking off. Seriously, though, it's been fun watching us progress together.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.170.006.000.0010.17

46F, calm and clear, full moon setting.  A perfect morning for running.  Ran 10.17 in 1:34:41, average pace 9:21 per mile, flat shoes.  Ran the first 4 at 12:33, 11:32, 10:54 and 10:41, all low heart rate.  Started mile 5 at the same pace, then the thought of a whole week at Friday night's speed was more depressing than my fear of injury, so I sped up to 10K pace after about 100 meters.  Splits for the rest of the run were 8:09 (including jogging the first 100), 7:50, 7:57, 8:00, 7:51, 7:48 (178 bpm), average pace for the six fast miles was 7:54, or 48:59 for a 10K, about the same speed as I raced my 5K a few weeks ago.  Then I jogged in the stub split at 11:39 pace.  Not a very disciplined run, but it felt good to air it out for a few miles this morning. 

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From Huans32 on Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 09:00:34 from 138.64.8.52

Awesome run Flat. Looks at all those sub 8s. Great job.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 16:52:36 from 131.59.200.82

That will build your stamina for sure, great run. I've been thinking of doing 2 tempos/week to try and move that threshold to a faster speed.

From flatlander on Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 17:37:47 from 198.207.244.102

Huans, thanks, I'm hoping 7 is the new 8.

Joe, stamina, yeah, that's the word I was searching for. The warning I have read is that fast works for a while then you have to switch to something else. Not sure why that would be the case, so long as you properly rest between workouts, but it does seem to ring true.

From baldnspicy on Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:43:58 from 167.164.3.140

Nice speed, Flat!

From lightitup on Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 16:29:04 from 68.98.126.85

I think you can run a 3:45 marathon, now. :)

Here's what you do. On the day of the Boston marathon, (April 19th), and during the Boston marathon, run it wherever you are (China?). You can run "with" me. Just tell all those suits "I've gotta run"

E

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.400.000.000.009.40

56F and cloudy, wind SSE 3 mph.  Good running conditions -- this morning the air was heavy and moist, it will be summer running conditions before long.  I ran 9.40 in 1:45:46, average pace 11:15 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  Had to cut it a little bit short due to my daughter's school schedule.

I didn't run yesterday for a couple of reasons.  After Monday morning's hard run I felt fine, then developed something in my left knee as the day wore on, to the point I was limping around.  I felt better yesterday morning, but had to be at work at 6 and didn't get home until 9:30 last night.  I could have gone out then, but I still had some residual knee aches and pains and I knew I would be running this morning, decided not to push it.  So I missed a day.  The knee felt fine this morning, nothing at all.  This is probably a good week to cut back on miles a little bit anyway.  My two granddaughters are visiting for the weekend starting tomorrow, and they are going to want plenty of grandpa time -- grandpa too.  Their parents are hoping to buy a home in Temple, Texas, where my son-in-law will be doing his residency for the next six years.

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From jasro on Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 18:56:25 from 198.50.4.4

It's amazing what an occasional day off can do. It seems to reenergize me everytime I do it, so long as I don't do it too often. I hope it has the same effect on you.

From flatlander on Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 08:48:03 from 76.31.26.153

I think so, wasn't that fast yesterday but was able to do another hard workout this morning with minimal stress, second one this week.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.640.000.002.5010.14

60F, cloudy with wind S 13 mph, good morning to run.  Felt comfortable at first then hot.  Ran 10.14 miles in 1:44:00, average pace 10:15, regular shoes.  First three at low heart rate, average pace low 11s, then 10x400 with equal recovery intervals in between.  400 splits, corrected to mile pace, were 7:17 (155 bpm), 6:49 (160), 6:22 (168), 7:00 (167), 6:29 (167), 6:31 (169), 6:50 (171), 7:04 (172), 6:59 (170), 7:15 (172), then cool down for 2.25 miles at about 10:30s.  Progress, liked the 6:22 but not the 7:15.  On the last lap I tried to run butter smooth and it turned out smooth and slow, lots to work on form-wise.  I was happy to be able to run a second hard workout this week.

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From Huans32 on Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 09:05:27 from 138.64.8.52

OUCH 160?? That is a scorcer. Hope your shoes didnt melt. Great splits on the intervals though.

From flatlander on Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 14:19:00 from 198.207.244.102

It's hotter than you know what here in Texas, but 160 might be a bit of an exaggeration, even for us. Thanks for the encouragement, and for pointing out the error.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.090.000.000.0110.10

67F, wind SSE 10 mph, gusts to 21 mph, cloudy and getting ready to rain.  A great morning for running.  Ran 10.09 in 1:49:40, average pace 10:52 per mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.  Best low heart rate pace so far if my memory is correct. 

My granddaughters are in town from Utah, and my wife left with their parents this morning to go look for a house in Temple, Texas, where they are moving in a couple of months.  They took the younger one with them, but Kate and I are duking it out here alone for a couple of days.  So far she is winning.  I have painted her nails (sad but true) and raced her grocery cart on the back porch.  I lost that race but was able to get 0.01 VO2 max miles in.  Here is the winner with her groceries.  I think she needs to work on her sportsmanship.

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From Mack on Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 12:51:22 from 71.111.186.66

Pretty hard to imagine a kid that cute being a poor sport! I'm glad she beat you. =)

From SlowJoe on Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 13:55:56 from 184.79.24.255

She is definitely rubbing it in, looks like you need to train harder. Good running yesterday, btw.

From flatlander on Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 14:12:47 from 198.207.244.102

I seem to have developed this habit of getting chicked by family members.

From Rye on Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 15:52:17 from 75.174.12.191

Man I am jealous! My oldest daughter has been married for 5 years and still no kids. She is a doll.

From Burt on Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 11:23:52 from 98.177.220.145

Cute progeny.

From flatlander on Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 11:38:31 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks. She got four changes of nail color out of me in two days, ending up with goth (not sure why that one was in my wife's drawer). When I called her "relentless" she got offended and demanded to know what it meant. And when her parents got home they were laughing at my gullibility -- at home her rule is one change every five days.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.283.280.000.0018.56

66F, wind SW 3 mph and foggy.  Great morning for running.  Got up very early in order to get back before my granddaughter woke up.  Ran 18.56 miles in 3:05:07, average pace 9:58 per mile.  Did a 3-mile pickup at mile 12 at marathon pace, 8:48, 8:31 and 8:37, then 0.28 at the end at 8:25 pace, it was as fast as I could go at that point on wooden legs.

By the time I got back to the house my granddaughter was up, two hours ahead of schedule, eating cereal, ready with her to-do list.  That took the rest of the day, so I am late blogging.  She's gone now, not sure what I will do with myself today.

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From Burt on Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 11:19:56 from 98.177.220.145

Whew! That's some serious mileage.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 13:32:13 from 184.79.24.255

I see it was an "easy" Saturday for you. Only 18 miles huh? I'm expecting no less than 30 next week! Seriously, I don't know how you do it!

From baldnspicy on Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 00:19:30 from 72.95.167.6

Awesome job! The best part of the day, I'm sure was hanging with the grand daughter!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.550.000.000.0010.55

69F, wind SSW 10 mph, hot and humid.  Felt great running out there, basically the first day of summer, though it should cool down by tomorrow.  Ran 10.55 miles in 1:55:50 (lots of 5s on April 5), average pace 10:59 per mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.  I am watching my right knee closely, it felt like it had some ITB in it, but it never got worse during the run and seems to be better now than yesterday.

I have made friends with a bike rider.  He is out spinning around every morning about the same time as me, for about 8 months now.  Finally six weeks ago he said "hi" when he went past me.  I said "hey".  This has happened three times now.  This may not seem like much to the lady bloggers, but for guys at 5:00 in the morning it makes us blood brothers.

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From lightitup on Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 16:00:32 from 67.185.20.107

Yeah, good job being vigilant on the ITB. I am the proud owner of a hernia, wish I would have worked the glutes, hips and core more.

From flatlander on Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 16:01:53 from 198.207.244.102

You mentioned it once but I thought it had gone away. I assume it won't stop you from running Boston?

From lightitup on Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 16:13:41 from 67.185.20.107

LOL, no it got worse, as hernias do, as I knew, but didn't want to think about. I will still try to run Boston. If I end up walking again at Boston, you should put 24 hour surveillance around me for the next year....it would be bad.

From flatlander on Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 16:14:32 from 198.207.244.102

You'll do fine, you always do.

From RivertonPaul on Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 17:31:49 from 67.42.27.114

"Hey and hi."

From SlowJoe on Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 19:33:32 from 184.79.24.255

Nice run, summer will be brutal.

I see your friendship zoomed straight past the "mornin'" stage. I see some of the same people on my university route but all I have so far is, "Mornin." No hellos.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.760.000.000.0010.76

67F, wind SSE 6 mph, cloudy and humid.  Good running weather.  Ran 10.76 in 1:53:42, average pace 10:35 per mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.  This beat my previous low heart rate best by 17 seconds per mile.  One split was 10:16.  Not sure where all the "speed" came from this morning but no complaints.  I am still nursing my right ITB so I haven't done any speed work yet this week.

Two years ago yesterday I started training for a marathon.  I have run a lot of miles since then, but it is kind of funny to look at my first entry:

Star Date 04.05.08, Christian Saturday, GMT 13:30 and GMT 16:30 -- Day 1

            The alarm went off at 6:30.  Not so fast, buckaroo.  I turn over to catch a few more winks.  Next look at the clock shows 9:30.  Time for a new alarm clock.  Dang, here it is Day 1 and I didn’t answer the bell. 

            I roll out and start walking around.  Notice that the floor is a little cold.  Check the computer and it is low 50s outside.  Perfect running weather.  The gods are smiling.  I get dressed and head out.

            I need to run 4 miles this morning in order to start a fairly steep ramp-up to merge into the mileage buildup schedule.  4 miles may not sound like a lot, but it is twice any distance I have run since I was 22 years old.  I am apprehensive, but the weather is perfect. 

            There is a stiff head wind for part of the lap, then a tailwind.  (I'm running laps, get it?)  At lap two, I keep going instead of turning in.  Just that one little thing creates a tinge of excitement.  I am doing something new.  After lap three, I am still feeling OK, and I head around once more.  Lap four is a little iffy toward the end, but I stumble into the front door, and I am on my way, with a big assist from that Canadian cold front.  No immediate ill effects.  No dizziness, queasiness, pulled muscles or blisters.  No crawling on the floor trying to catch my breath.  Also no welcoming committee.

The crawling on the floor, dizziness, queasiness, blisters and pulled muscles came later.  But I have enjoyed perfect running weather every day since the first day.

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From jasro on Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 11:52:50 from 198.50.4.4

I love that! What made you decide to start training for a marathon?

I also like that you slept in that first day. I thought you never missed a day and never slept in. You're disciplined, but you too had your setbacks (if only on day 1). Those morning runs are tough.

Good run. You are hanging tough.

From Burt on Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 12:14:46 from 206.19.214.144

That's awesome Mark. Nice writing.

From KP on Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 12:17:20 from 65.208.22.25

ha! it's fun to look back at how far you've come. great post!

From flatlander on Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 12:33:32 from 76.31.26.153

Funny you should ask. I started running about 10 years ago, in order to prevent a heart attack which I was sure was coming. I vowed at the time never to run more than two miles, because I knew it would inevitably lead to a marathon, which had to be avoided at all costs. I kept my promise for about 8 years, running about 4-8 miles a week and enjoying some significant health benefits.

Then my son ran a marathon when he was 18, went on a mission and upon his return decided to run the St. George Marathon. He wanted to know if I would run it with him. I politely declined but said I would be happy to meet him at the finish line. Then as I was running one day shortly thereafter it was so easy I started thinking that it would be cool to show up at the starting line instead of the finish line, maybe induce a heart attack in a perfectly healthy 21-year old. So I secretly registered and started running, but didn't make it to St. George that year. I ruined my back with my abysmal golf swing and it set me back several months. My first marathon was January 1, 2009 in Kingwood, Texas (5:51 if you must know) and my son was at the finish line waiting for me. The irony of that situation reversal didn't register on me until later. However, he did run St. George 2009 with me all the way to the finish line.

My heart is now completely healthy, I have lost 30 pounds, I have no blockage left in my coronary arteries and I'm in it for good, or at least until I find out what my best time is. After that I might take a few days off. I no longer golf, however. Now you're sorry you asked!

From flatlander on Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 12:43:14 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks Burt and KP, it's a lot of fun.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 13:38:23 from 131.59.200.80

Hey cool, nice story. I had that same feeling for my first 4-miler (going into uncharted territory) back in December. Glad you're keeping healthy.

From jasro on Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 16:57:29 from 198.50.4.4

Not sorry at all. Thank you for sharing. I love to hear the "why I started running" stories.

From Mack on Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 17:56:46 from 71.111.186.66

Wow. Its fun to look back and see how far you have come in only two years.

From baldnspicy on Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 01:36:50 from 72.95.167.92

Incredible progress in such a short time! Glad to have you alive and well.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.220.007.000.0010.22

69F, cloudy with warm wind from S, 11 mph.  Nice morning to run.  Ran 10.22 in flat shoes, started out with 3 at low heart rate, 11:26, 10:16, 10:28.  Interesting times, it was tempting to finish out the run at that speed and see if I could beat yesterday's pace.  But I had bigger fish to fry.  I ran 7.00 at threshold pace, averaging 7:53 per mile.  I was hoping to make 8 but this was a difficult pace for me at warm temperature.  Plus my groin pulled right at the end of the 7th mile so I slowed down the last 50 yards.  Walked a while then jogged it in at molasses speed.  Last week I ran 6 at 7:54, so I might have expected a little more improvement, but the temperature for that run was 46F so this morning is probably real progress.  The one thing I have learned in my short running career is that temperature is the most significant variable, it trumps sleep, nerves, stress, diet, shoes, injuries, fatigue and teenagers; it is probably at least on par with altitude and hills, which don't play a huge role in most marathons I would be entered in.  So I have to be OK with the run today -- maybe next week I'll get 8 or 9.  I have to figure out one more speed workout this week but I ain't doing this one again.

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From Huans32 on Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:08:53 from 138.64.8.52

Looks like your starting to hit some higher temps already. The heat can sure throw you off your paces.

From Rye on Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 11:55:31 from 174.27.123.208

We had 6 inches of snow in Idaho Falls yesterday!!! Enjoy those warm temps.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 17:07:21 from 131.59.200.82

Wow, great run. 7 miles tempo is huge. I know you're a full marathon guy but I bet you'd be in good shape to get a huge PR in the half as well.

For me, 65 degrees is the point at which it starts to get annoyingly tougher as temp goes up. 69 definitely qualifies as hot.

From flatlander on Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 10:47:43 from 76.31.26.153

Mark, yes I know, everybody in Utah is complaining about the cold and we are complaining about the heat. Nobody is happy.

Rye, even for Idaho Falls that must be some sort of record.

Joe, thanks. I enjoy the shorter races but the marathon mirage constantly glimmers in the distance for me. I hope something is really there when I get there!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.410.000.000.0011.41

51F, wind NNW 6 mph, clear and cooling.  Nice fresh wind to run in this morning.  Went 11.41 in 2:04:02, average pace 10:52 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  Good pace for regular shoes, but not my fastest.  It was OK after running hard yesterday, though.  When I started I could barely move, but the longer I went the better I felt.  After 3 miles my groin loosened up and after 8 the right ITB pain quit.  Who knows what would have happened if I had gone 20.  Luckily I never found out, I have things to do today.

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From lightitup on Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 14:01:13 from 67.185.20.107

Love your updates....don't be like me. Don't ruin all this with an injury. Coddle that ITB!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.140.000.000.0010.14

45F, wind calm, clear with setting moon.  Perfect morning for some speed work.  So I decided to go long and slow.  Ran 10.14 miles in 1:49:41, average pace 10:49 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  A little bit faster than yesterday, but pretty much the same range. 

I regret missing the golden opportunity for a speedy run, I really do, but I was hurting everywhere when I went to bed last night.  A little worried in fact.  I woke up in the middle of the night thinking it was time to get up and go, couldn't make myself do it, which is a classical sign of overtraining, so I thought maybe I would just go out for 4 or 5 and see how I felt.  Then I looked at the clock.  1:10 a.m.  I relaxed and the next thing I knew it was 5:00, all my aches and pains were gone and I was ready to go.  But no speed today, it can wait.

If I still feel good tonight and if my schedule cooperates, I might go ahead and do my long run instead of waiting until tomorrow.

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From Burt on Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 13:03:28 from 206.19.214.144

Perfect morning for some speed work so you decided to go long and slow. Love it!

From jasro on Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 13:11:58 from 198.50.4.4

Ahh, the aches and pains. I know those aches and pains. I really do. Good run.

From lightitup on Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 13:15:06 from 67.185.20.107

what I don't get is why they get worse during the taper. Go figure

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
30.000.000.000.0030.00

71F at beginning, 55F at end, partly cloudy wind SSE 10 mph.  7:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m.  It was a perfect night for running.  Ran 30.00 very slowly, in 5:51:51, average pace 11:44 per mile, average heart rate 138 bpm, regular shoes.  My heart rate is naturally higher at night than in the morning.  I didn't really want to do this run, but SlowJoe said I had to.  I quit at 30.00, not one step further.  But at least I made 30, the furthest I have run and something I have failed twice to do in the last month.  I remember a year ago running the marathon distance on a Saturday long run and running the last mile in 14:30 at a 145 heart rate.  My last lap today was 12:52.  Older is definitely better, but I need to run this a little faster.

My heart rate got as high as 150, but was in the low 140s most of the run after 10 miles, then wend down to mid-130s for the last 5 or 6, partly because I slowed down, but also due to some other physiological factor which I don't really understand.  I am guessing my body switched over to burning fat after I finished digesting up a bowl of rice I ate just before the run.  It was like I ran through the bonk that happened at 22 miles and lasted through the marathon distance, maybe a little further, then at about mile 27 or 28 the nausea abated enough that it was no longer uncomfortable to run, my pace picked up naturally and my heart rate went down.  I waited too long to take a drink, about 13 miles, a bad personal habit which doesn't work at this distance.

At about mile 6 I ran into my friend, Wade, who ran the Texas marathon with me.  He is faster than me and has been improving despite not really focusing since the January 1 race.  He ran with me until about mile 18 and we had a good time, but then it was tough being on my own for the last 12.  We are thinking of joining a running group for Saturday morning runs down at the YMCA.  I was concerned that they might be doing only 10 for a long run, but then we figured out that we could run down there, do their run and run back, giving us 20 miles.  Wouldn't want to do that every week but I am looking for extra ideas for long runs (I can't do a progression run or a 30-miler every Saturday, that would get stale), so that might be a good alternative.  Also, we might do a 10K next Saturday in Brennam (home of famous Blue Bell ice cream, about an hour from here), but that is still up in the air.  Depends on whether they are serving rocky road.

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From SlowJoe on Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 09:49:21 from 184.79.24.255

Wow, you're an animal! You could've made it halfway to Brenham already for the next race...on foot. Very impressed.

From Rye on Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:03:09 from 97.121.21.155

Awesome run! Great mileage this week. Rocky Road, Vanilla, Cookie Dough, whatever you need to partake! 12 to 14 miles is about my limit by myself. If I go further than that I sure need some company.

From baldnspicy on Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 21:04:53 from 72.77.104.200

Great job! 30 miles? Wow...that's just flat (snicker) impressive!

From flatlander on Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 23:21:44 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, now you've got me thinking. They have that MS 150 which is a bike ride to Austin. There should definitely be a Rocky Road 50. First prize 3 gallons of ice cream.

Rye, just got sweat cream and raspberries tonight. That is great ice cream, but you have to have them mix it at a shop, it doesn't come in cartons.

Bald, thanks, I love a good pun.

From RivertonPaul on Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 23:30:18 from 75.169.11.31

Great job on the 30!

From lightitup on Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 23:34:11 from 67.185.20.107

Been looking up ultras for you to run. There's a beautiful one in Mammoth

From Mack on Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 00:17:27 from 71.111.186.66

Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From flatlander on Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 13:42:59 from 75.228.223.86

Thanks Paul and Mack.

E, met a friend today who ran a 50K this weekend, his second, so I am nothing special. I'm still a marthon guy, but where is Mammoth?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.390.009.000.0011.39

53F, wind NE 1 mph, high thin cloud layer.  Best morning for running that we will have for a while.  I thought I would wait another day for this week's speed trial, since I did big miles over the weekend, but decided to go ahead with it this morning since it is going to be warm for the rest of the week.  Warmed up two miles then ran 9 miles at threshold pace in flat shoes, targeting 8:00 per mile.  Splits and heart rate were 7:57 (157), 7:54 (165), 7:52 (163), 7:44 (172), 7:53 (172), 8:03 (173), 7:53 (174), 8:04 (174) and 8:07 (174), then jogged it in since I had to take my youngest daughter to school.  Average pace for the threshold run was 7:56, I liked how my heart rate held steady in the low 170s, thought that was a good sign.  Was hoping for 10 miles, but this is good enough.  Next time I do this run I will target somewhere between 7:15 and 7:30, starting out short and building up.  Feels good to continue making progress.

My middle daughter, who has a very mixed academic career, stayed up all night doing a paper last night.  Had a couple of bad breaks, not her fault, that put her behind, but didn't complain, just decided on her own to take a Red Bull (OK, not the best choice) and push through to get it done.  She gets it, she is a regular adult now.  That feels pretty good, like I can let her go and she can diagnose her problems and figure them out.  Life is better since she dumped her toxic boyfriend.  Now if she could just get the whole church thing going.

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From KP on Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:19:43 from 65.208.22.26

those toxic boyfriends are trouble...

From lightitup on Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:57:26 from 67.185.20.107

I'm excited to be "guyed" as in the next race I do with you I will see you at the starting line and then an hour after the finish when I come straggling in with a measly 35-50 mpw, still fat, high heart rate, and overly caffeinated. Hopefully I'll be there in time to see you get the age group (winner?) award. Great job

From SlowJoe on Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 15:09:58 from 184.79.24.255

Another impressive run. Seems like you keep holding faster paces for longer distances each week. That has to be a good thing.

From Burt on Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 15:50:08 from 206.19.214.144

Are you the stake president?

From flatlander on Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 16:12:09 from 198.207.244.102

KP, don't I know it. This guy lasted three years. I found out just after I posted that she called him again yesterday, it's like I jinxed it retroactively. She swears she won't go back to him but now I am worried all over again.

E, what's this age-group stuff? jk Thanks for the confidence. Is your Boston taper making you crazy like it is everybody else?

Joe, yeah, but by this afternoon 9 miles seems a little far to hold a fast pace. I feel like I sprained an ankle even though I didn't. Should be fine by in the morning, but I think it's time to run faster and shorter on the speed stuff.

Burt, no way, couldn't do that and this too. My long-term goal for church service is a mission in Africa. Maybe Kenya? I love Africa. Gotta get a couple of kids straightened out first, though.

From Burt on Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 16:24:54 from 206.19.214.144

Oh, that's right. You can't even be a bishop if you have kids that need straightening out. LOL!

From baldnspicy on Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:43:25 from 167.164.3.140

Burt...LOL I actually thought it was the other way around. Seems like every Stk Prez I know had good/decent kids that then by the time that calling was done the kids were off the deep end. I hope our new Stk Prez doesn't have that problem...his kids are great!

Flat - Nice run! I love the speed and distance. I hit about the 160-163 BPM on my Garmin and I'm needing to slow down. Not sure what that means, but I've only hit the low 170s a few times and couldn't hold it long. At my age (39), I'm supposed to have a max HR of 180. Haven't figured out the whole HR thing and training using it yet, but my Garmin is tracking it for when I get smart enough to understand. Keep it up!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.230.000.000.0010.23

67F, wind SE 13 mph, 9:00 p.m.  Ran 9.32 miles at an average pace of about 10 per mile, regular shoes, no heart rate monitor.  Today was a mess work-wise and I needed the early morning hours to try and meet my deadlines for the day.  So it was late before I got out, I came pretty close to not getting out at all.  Even though it had been 36 hours since I last ran I still had a lot of aches and pains.  Running hard for 9 miles yesterday took a lot out of me, and my bad groin was making it hard to go very fast.  Plus I ate a full dinner before going out.  I was hungry, but also wanted to see what that was like.  Didn't cause problems but it definitely slowed me down.  Starvation is the best way to go.  The object tonight was to just get through the run.  Tried to pick it up a little at the end, but didn't do much, most of the splits were right at 10.  I came home and went right back to work, didn't get to bed until 1:00 and still didn't finish.

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From lightitup on Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 14:51:58 from 67.185.20.107

I felt great for London's run. Ate a half a bagel with cream cheese and a banana a couple hours before I ran. I can see why you're losing weight.

From flatlander on Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 15:08:23 from 76.31.26.153

E, gotta lose weight, can't be fat and BQ at the same time. Despite all I've lost there is still a residual layer that needs to like, disappear.

From lightitup on Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 15:10:33 from 67.185.20.107

I did it. I was fat when I BQ'd. And yes, it's just as hard for a girl, IMHO. And I'm fatter now, hoping to better my PR. Just think of it as more in reserve...oh, and softer for grandkids

E

From baldnspicy on Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:47:11 from 167.164.3.140

I'm still trying to lose the belly fat...no matter how much I run or how little/well I eat, I can't lose it. Oh well, maybe I'm actually converting some fat to muscle. Maybe if I start the P90X like Burt I can have ripped abs and chest. That would be cool...

From flatlander on Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:57:34 from 198.207.244.102

I dunno, do you think Burt is really sold on P90X? He was "baring" his testimony about it the other day. I think that has something to do with the style of pull-ups he does but not sure.

From baldnspicy on Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 13:24:04 from 167.164.3.140

I think he's probably just looking to make a quick buck off this P90X thing. The way he uses Photoshop to flatter everyone, you know he would use it to show a ripped, hairy chest. You don't get that from doing granny pushups!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.750.000.000.007.75

69F, wind ESE 7 mph, good morning for running until I got going hard.  I slept in a little, finished my leftover work then ran 7.75 miles in 1:13:30, average pace 9:29 per mile, average heart rate 158 bpm, regular shoes.  Had to quit early to take a phone call.  I tried to speed up throughout the run, got down to 8:27 for one split but couldn't go any faster in the heat and after running late last night.  My heart rate got up to 182 at one point, 10 bpm higher than Monday's much faster run.  A run like this isn't all that encouraging, but running hard on the hard days is what makes it all work.  My groin felt a little better from last night.  Every time it started to pull I paid more attention to my form and got through the run with minimal problems.

On a happier note, I ordered my first senior breakfast last Saturday morning.  Smaller portions but it seemed just right, so I am fitting into my new role quite nicely.  A bonus was this automobile parked out front.  So two classics at IHOP that morning.

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From Burt on Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 15:26:26 from 206.19.214.144

My son always orders off the senior menu at IHOP because he thinks the kid's menu won't be enough for him.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 16:51:55 from 131.59.200.80

I'm glad to hear you say that "running hard on the hard days is what makes it all work." I also try to tell myself, even when the run is unimpressive, that it's making me faster.

From flatlander on Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 17:01:08 from 76.31.26.153

Burt, you mean anybody can order off the senior menu? I'm crushed. I was going to order a day early, since my birthday was on a Sunday. I wrestled with my conscience before deciding to do the right thing and wait. Now I'm totally disillusioned, I think I'll just go back to being 54.

Joe, I have to tell myself something on those days. Honestly, though, I think it is true.

From Burt on Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 17:45:03 from 206.19.214.144

Hahaha. To be honest, we always ask permission beforehand. They're always okay with it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.002.270.000.0011.27

59F, wind ESE 10 mph, light rain for about 4 miles, enough to soak everything.  A great morning for running, sloshy and messy, just like playing in puddles and mud.  Ran 9.00 at low heart rate, regular shoes, high 10s and low 11s.  Legs felt heavy, acidy and awkward the whole time, though my pace wasn't too bad.  At the end I decided to see what would happen when I sped up.  Amazingly, everything felt better as long as I was careful with my form.  By the last quarter I was sub-8 and all my aches and pains disappeared.  I was plenty tired but it was a good kind or tired instead of wanting to lay down and take a nap kind of tired.  Maybe going different speeds uses different muscles?

For some reason I had that old song "School Days" floating through my head, the one we used to sing in elementary school.  Not sure why, maybe it was overflow from a dream.  Anyway, looks like I'm all set with my own internal iPod for the next few runs.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.100.000.000.009.10

64F, wind ENE 5 mph, 93% humidity, getting ready to rain.  Perfect running weather.  Ran 9.10 miles in1:34:42, average pace 10:24 per mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.  This is 11 seconds better than my previous best 10 days ago.  My fantasy goal is to average 10:00 at low heart rate, which is now starting to look achievable.  (I am perfectly aware that most people fantasize about more interesting topics.)  I got a full 7 hours of sleep last night, and as heavy and weak as my legs felt yesterday they felt light and strong this morning.  head-Pod tune for this run was Stranger in Paradise.  Dunno why.  Never even saw the movie.

A serpent in paradise:  Had to quit early because of some pain in my left ankle, down low on the heel on the outside.  It was there at the beginning, subsided during the middle miles (I got one split at 10:03) then all of a sudden came back hard.  So I quit early and may have to skip the 10K race in the morning out in Brennam.  I have been thinking I could run 7:30 splits if the course isn't too hilly, but all that may have to wait depending on how things progress today.

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From SlowJoe on Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:55:46 from 131.59.200.80

Good to see that your legs are back. Hopefully the ankle thing proves to be fleeting - I'd hate for you to miss out on the Blue Bell.

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Inside workout this morning, no long run.  My ankle didn't loosen up after the run yesterday.  It felt like a bad sprain, to the point I was almost walking sideways at times to get around.  Felt kind of ridiculous at work.  I just told everybody I stepped in a hole on my lawn.  If you tell them you got hurt running it's like a gotcha.  It feels somewhat better this morning, so I did 6 miles on the elliptical, 3 forward and 3 backwards (that adds up to 6, not 0).  I have complete respect for anybody who does that machine on a regular basis, it takes a lot of mental stamina.  I was ready to quit after 1 mile, not sure how I made 6.

Good luck to all the Boston runners and anybody else who is racing this weekend.  I am definitely going to track my two sisters and brother-in-law as they pound the historic pavement on Monday, as well as some of the bloggers.  Looks like Ryan Hall and Meb are both entered so maybe the U.S. will get a win finally.  There appears to be only one U.S. woman entered in the elite field, Michelle Frey out of Iowa -- I have heard the name but don't know much about her.

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From baldnspicy on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 14:16:29 from 72.95.170.250

I tried the eliptical once when I went to our gym during a busy time and all the treadmills were taken. I felt so awkward! I did it for about 20 mins then got off. There's a lady that does it for 60 minutes and she's hauling! I don't have the coordination for that. I'm lucky to run and not trip over my own feet. :-) Good job on the 6 miles!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 16:02:39 from 184.79.24.255

Hope the day off works some magic for ya.

From Mack on Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 01:12:59 from 71.111.186.66

Nice job on the elliptical Flat. Hope your ankle heals fast.

I know what you mean by the "gotcha" thing at work.

There are two ellipticals at the gym I go to and they seem to always have someone on them...more power to 'em I guess.

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Still working my sprained ankle, might be a couple of more days.  6.0 on the elliptical.

It is fun tracking family and friends running Boston this morning.  Looks like the Americans failed again to win it, though, taking 4th and 5th in men's and nada in women's.

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From Rye on Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:23:14 from 174.27.9.162

Sorry about your ankle. I had a 3rd degree sprain a couple of years ago and it took 3 months before I could run. Good Luck.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
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More elliptical this morning, one hour.  It will be that way for a few more days.  Ankle is improving but not there yet.  It is working different muscles, especially when I go backwards.  I wouldn't be surprised if my speed isn't actually improved by the time I hit the road again, and I don't think I'll take much of a hit in conditioning either.  That machine is hard.

I noticed that the top Boston finisher in my age group had a posted time of 2:42:27.  I'm sure that is a typo.

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From SlowJoe on Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:32:26 from 131.59.200.80

I'll have to remember that about the elliptical if I get too hurt to run. Sounds good if you get past the boredom. Good luck getting back soon.

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56F, calm and clear.  Perfect morning for running, so off to the rec center.  6 miles (1 hour) on the elliptical, frontwards and backwards half and half.  I can walk without a limp this morning, but I am leary of starting back too fast.  I can jog a little bit, so maybe tomorrow I'll shuffle to the rec center and back instead of driving.  I should be almost back to normal about the time I leave on an overseas business trip next week.  Seems like everything is conspiring against my training in the last few days, but honestly I'm not frustrated yet, seems fine right now to take a small break, as long as it doesn't amount to more than that.

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From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 13:08:27 from 131.59.200.80

If you're healed up enough, it'll be nice to run with some new scenery. Well, unless your company is sending you to Gaza or something.

From Mack on Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 18:31:52 from 71.111.186.66

Sounds like you are being wise about things. Hope you get back to normal soon!

From flatlander on Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 08:43:59 from 75.247.209.170

Joe, LOL, just a regular trip to China, nothing exotic or dangerous like Gaza or Nigeria. Problem is I won't know where to go, but that has never stopped me from getting in trouble before.

Mack, thanks, it's always hard to know how much to do. Just one session going too hard on the left foot caused the sprain. I guess I just have to realize that I'm always vulnerable.

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6.500.000.000.006.50

57F, calm and clear.  Another great day to be inside, one hour on the elliptical.  Actually, I ran a quarter mile to the rec center then back home after the workout, thus 6.5 today.  Also a round of weights after the elliptical.  Ankle is still somewhat sore, but it seems to loosen up somewhat if I push it just a little.  Easier to run a quarter mile than a hundred feet, but my stride feels shuffly and awkward.  And it feels more comfortable to land heels first, but from experience that leads to knee trouble. 

Always something, this interruption came from nowhere, right at the end of my best run of the year, and totally unrelated to the other aches and pains that have been coming and going all year long.  I am pretty certain it relates to some of the work I have been doing with my form, which means I am doing something wrong.  I probably need a coach to work on my form with me, but it is hard to find the right combination of running and scientific credentials.

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From SlowJoe on Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 09:48:04 from 184.79.24.255

That Murphy's law can be really cruel but you seem to be handling it well, in blog-speak anyway. I would think that good discipline of yours (hitting the machine an hour a day) should minimize any loss in fitness.

From Burt on Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 18:44:42 from 206.19.214.144

Did you try rubbing butter on it? That usually cures all ailments.

From flatlander on Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 21:18:29 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, thanks, I hope so.

Thanks, Burt. I am taking all suggestions.

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73F and raining, midsummer temperatures.  Perfect elliptical day, though I did run a mile outside in addition to my hour on the machine.  Still running with an awkward gait, but it is an improvement over yesterday.  I am undecided about what to do for the weekend, maybe do 10 miles combined elliptical and running.

This has been a strange week.  In addition to my gimpy ankle, my main client got sued, my brother got sued, my married son is in town trying to buy a house, my other son is going off the deep end (temporarily I hope, at least he can swim), clients still want their work done, and I am still not good looking.  It all feels disjointed, like the wheels came off in a week.  It will probably take a week to put them back on.

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From SlowJoe on Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:20:59 from 131.59.200.80

Yikes, what a week. Hope it starts coming together sooner vs. later for you. Maybe you can relax and recharge this weekend.

From KP on Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 16:17:46 from 65.208.22.25

Sorry you've had such a rough week!

Is your daughter still with the craptastic guy? Thank goodness you taught your son how to swim... I'm sure he can tread water until he gets his act together. We all have rough spots here and there. Hopefully you'll have a nice, relaxing weekend!!!

From flatlander on Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 18:17:05 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks guys, I wouldn't have put it in the blog, but it seemed almost funny this morning when I started thinking about it. KP, yeah, I left my daughter off of the list but I don't think she has completely shaken him yet. I definitely plan to have a relaxing weekend, and Joe, one last good luck on Sunday's half, you're going to kill it!

From Mack on Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 19:25:10 from 71.111.186.66

Sorry to hear about your week...but it is nice to know that my family isn't the only with challenges.

Dont rush back from that injury. Let it heal!!

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65F, blustery, high winds and threatening early, then clear and almost calm at the end.  By the time I finished the weather was perfect and I was happy to be outside.  I must have gone out at the end of a storm or something.  I ran 3.67 miles in the dark (about 12 minute pace), then pulled into the rec center for 1 hour on the elliptical followed by weights, then finished up with another 1.35 (about 10:45 pace) under clear skies and low humidity.  No heart rate monitor, regular shoes.  My ankle was hurting at a low level most of the time but never got worse.  I think my gait was getting a little smoother as well.  On the second run things definitely felt better.  So progress unless the ankle starts to feel bad today.  I don't expect it.

As I was lifting weights I noticed something interesting.  I have always had a small knot on my left leg down low on the outside, about 4 inches above the ankle but a little toward the front.  I had assumed it was overgrowth from some long-forgotten sprain or something.  Today while pushing weights with my legs I felt the knot and noticed it was contracting.  It is muscle.  I have the same muscle on the right side (duh), but it has little definition on that side.  Obviously I am not using my left leg the same as my right when I run.  Don't know what the difference is but there is no other explanation that I can think of.  I think it would be cool to study anatomy.

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From SlowJoe on Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 16:00:45 from 98.174.161.67

LOL - go figure, a muscle in your leg. Good to see some solid miles without pain.

From lightitup on Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 20:25:52 from 67.185.20.107

So sorry you developed a muscle in your leg. I hope it gets "better" soon!

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7.400.000.000.007.40

56F, bright and calm morning.  Took my son and his wife to the airport, took my daughter to school, then ran 1 mile on the streets and 6.4 on the elliptical.  My ankle felt pretty good all weekend then didn't feel so good this morning.  I can get around but it is awkward and slow, definitely not making any training progress until it heals, though I am probably maintaining some reasonable level of fitness. 

So over the weekend my son bought a small house to live in during medical school.  Should be pretty nice for them and he might be able to turn a profit in 4 years when he is ready to sell.  The first-time homebuyer bonus from Uncle O was too hard to pass up.  Unfortunately I will have to co-sign, but he is good for it.  (Fingers crossed.)  Might not have done it so readily for a couple of other kids I know with the same last name.

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From KP on Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 13:02:06 from 65.208.22.25

My brother and sister-in-law took advantage of that little bonus from Uncle O with my mom's signature attached too.

If I were one of the "other kids" in your family, I would think you were playing favorites! ;)

From Burt on Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 13:19:00 from 206.19.214.144

I have a favorite child and all the rest of my children know it.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 17:11:17 from 184.79.24.255

Yeah, pitting them against each other is the most efficient way to get them straightened out (well it works with 2 and 3 year olds anyway).

From jasro on Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 19:04:07 from 198.50.4.4

Sorry about the ankle. Those darn injuries. Good to see you are hanging in there. Thanks for the welcome back.

From Mack on Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 18:31:39 from 71.111.186.66

Hey flat, this is a pretty long period of silence for you. Are you ok? Hope you aren't laying on the side of the road somewhere in Texas holding your ankle!

From flatlander on Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 19:06:57 from 220.232.159.233

KP, my other kids have shown remarkable resourcefulness in making sure they get their fair share.

Burt, I have found frequent utility in the phrase "life isn't fair", it is heard quite often around our house.

Joe, until they gang up on you. My number two kid once walked out of the house as a 16-year old. He took all of his younger siblings as they attempted to rent an apartment in order to escape East Germany. Between the four of them they cobbled together enough coins for first month's rent, but couldn't come up with a deposit and made it back home in time for dinner. My wife very wisely cooked their favorite meal that night.

Jasro, thanks, it is still touch and go but hopefully it will be OK.

Mack, a little of both, but see today's blog, training interruption from traveling. Hope all is going well with you.

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6.200.000.000.006.20

6.2 miles on treadmill.

I traveled to Hong Kong from early Tuesday to Wednesday late, losing a day traveling east to west, amounting to two days lost workout time.  Hong Kong is a three-dimensional place, meaning two things:  it is very much up and down, and you can't just go to the street and walk across to the next building.  Buildings are connected at different levels and I couldn't find a place to run.  So I went to the hotel gym.  They had a big MMA rink there with lessons going on, and a couple of treadmills tucked away in the corner.  So I got on a treadmill.  My ankle still doesn't feel great, but I went 10K in about an hour, speeding up to an 8 minute per mile pace at the end, it felt good but mainly anything to drown out the martial arts sounds -- I would jump every time they yelled. 

Then walked around all day looking at the sights, including a trail that circles the mountain on top of the main island and has a spectacular view of the harbor, about a 2-mile walk.  Then drove into Shenzhen, just across the border in China, last night.  This hotel has elliptical machines, but I am getting ready for meetings today, so not sure when I will get to them.  I'll be here until Monday, will try to get in as much training as my ankle and schedule allow.

Still looking for flat spots.

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From Burt on Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 20:06:40 from 206.19.214.144

Show them your American MMA skills.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 21:49:08 from 184.79.24.255

Sounds like an interesting experience. Guess they don't care about censoring running blogs.

MMA would be some great cross training. If worse came to worse, you can still run with a black eye and a few broken teeth, no problem!

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One hour on the elliptical at the hotel.  I couldn't work out on Friday due to our travel and work schedule and I had a limp most of the day.  I kept working it though, walking whenever I could and forcing myself to put pressure on the ankle.  I am doing this entry on Sunday morning in Hong Kong -- basically the ankle felt great during the workout Saturday morning and I had no limp all day long.  It got a little tired toward the end of the day but is otherwise OK.  Hopefully this is behind me.  Probably good for me this week to work it hard without overdoing it, and then let it rest.

So Friday and Saturday I was in Shenzhen, which is across the border from Hong Kong in China.  It used to be a sleepy little fishing village, but China decided to pour money into it to compete with Hong Kong, so it has broad boulevards and large new buildings, very different from Hong Kong or Beijing, the only two other places I have visited in China.  The hotel there was opulent but had a strange, sterile feel to it.  It is built on a Spanish theme; the doormen are even dressed like matadors.  It felt out of place; just like you wouldn't go to Wall Street for barbeque, you wouldn't go to China for Spanish culture.  I mentioned to someone that the decor felt like one of Saddam Hussein's palaces, and others seemed to agree with that description, though none of us has ever been to Iraq.  Anyway, we enjoyed the visit and particularly the company of the Chinese members of our party -- we had a good time and we got a lot done.  We start back home in the morning (Monday), arriving late Monday Houston time.  This hotel in Hong Kong doesn't have a gym, so it may be Tuesday before I get to train again.

The weather here feels identical to Houston, warm and moist -- now if they could just make the ground flat.

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From SlowJoe on Sun, May 02, 2010 at 10:51:40 from 184.79.24.255

Sounds like a cool experience.

I rolled my ankle a few months back and when I started exercising it (doing ankle circles at my desk, etc) it started getting better more quickly so I think that was a good call to start using it and putting just a litle pressure on it.

From Burt on Mon, May 03, 2010 at 12:34:23 from 206.19.214.144

Hope your having a great time despite the ankle.

From Smooth on Mon, May 03, 2010 at 17:08:58 from 174.23.172.155

Your comment on the left: "they make the road go up and down...put it back after the race?" makes me laugh soooo hard!

Hey, I was born in Hong Kong. Fun reading about your trip to HK and Shenzhen. Definitely a place more for shopping than for running.

I noticed you ran the Texas Marathon this year. GREAT time! I want to run that marathon some day. My daughter lives in Kingwood and I have run the Greenbelt trail there many a times when I visited her and the grandkids.

Hope your ankle is doing better now that you're back to "flatland"!

From Burt on Mon, May 03, 2010 at 17:33:51 from 206.19.214.144

Flatlander, meet Smooth. Smooth, meet Flatlander. Just so you know, both of those names are aliases. I found out Smooth wasn't her real name when I was trying to track her last year on the Boston Marathon.

Smooth's husband is a stake president just like you Flatlander.

From Burt on Mon, May 03, 2010 at 17:34:07 from 206.19.214.144

I'm totally spreading rumors here.

From flatlander on Mon, May 03, 2010 at 17:34:26 from 75.239.194.21

Joe, back in the U.S. now, sitting in the Newark airport, thanks for the comment. My ankle still feels fine, so if I am not too jet lagged I plan to go for a regular run in the morning. I think it is properly rested.

Burt, thanks, it was a great trip and the ankle is ready to go.

Smooth, thanks so much for the comments (and for the comment on my 1-1-2010 race report). I have seen your blog and enjoy reading it. I was telling somebody during this trip that I think Hong Kong is one of the top 5 cities in the world. It is a very exciting place, very efficient with a great mix of big-time business interests and tons of unique local flavor. I hope to visit again sometime soon.

I live over on the northwest side of Houston, but I have friends in Kingwood, some of them may know your daughter's family. I'm already registered for the Kingwood marathon this year. The following year (2012), New Year's Day falls on a Sunday, plus they moved Cowtown to Sunday so we are fast running out of marathon options around here. Hope to see you down here for it sometime. Great job in Boston, by the way.

From flatlander on Mon, May 03, 2010 at 17:37:17 from 75.239.194.21

Burt, LOL, that will never happen. The church is a little thin here but not that thin!

From baldnspicy on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 03:43:27 from 72.77.121.216

I'm sure you'd make a great Stake Pres, flat, if you really aren't one. Wouldn't ever happen to me in my stake. Too many lawyers, doctors, presidents of major corporations, etc. :-p But hey, I'm happy to be in Primary (where I've been since we moved here 4 years ago) and leave all the "big" callings in the ward and stake to those that want them.

From flatlander on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 12:56:33 from 76.31.26.153

Wes, thanks, really not one. That is just a rumor that Burt helpfully started. Actually, I am on the high council, which is a lot of fun. Second time I have done that, did it years ago during law school when I lived in New York City.

For all on the blog who aren't LDS and are scratching their heads as the Mormons rattle on, please forgive us and our jargon. There is actually nothing all that mysterious about it. Mormons have a lay ministry and these are all different offices in the church that ordinary people do for a period of time apart from their regular jobs and then it rotates to someone else. A stake president is a person who presides over several congregations, a bishop presides over one congregation (called a "ward") and reports to the stake president, high council is a body that advises the stake president, to name a few. Wes teaches "primary", which is Sunday School for young children, one of the best jobs of all. He must be good or they wouldn't have let him do it for four years. We take our duties seriously but honestly we don't consider one job more prestigious than another, and we don't believe that God does either. But we do honor and revere our leaders, especially our prophet, and we certainly have a lot of fun and joy in our service. So there you have it, Mormons 101 in a nutshell.

From Burt on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 13:20:05 from 206.19.214.144

Welllll.....there's a certain level of wisdom, spirituality, and experience you have to obtain to be called as a stake president. You ooze that. Wes and I haven't quite reached that rung of the ladder.

Is there a goof ball rung?

From flatlander on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 14:52:59 from 198.207.244.102

Goof ball is not good, very ominous. Goof balls become bishops, because they relate so well to teenage boys.

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 15:00:58 from 131.59.200.82

Hmmm, ok Mormons...here's some Catholicism 101 since we've been around awhile - you don't want your bishops relating TOO well to teenage boys.

JK! (Probably shouldn't have gone there, sorry God!)

From Burt on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 15:15:32 from 206.19.214.144

Oh shoot, Joe! I've been holding my bladder here at my desk. I almost lost it there.

From flatlander on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 15:34:34 from 198.207.244.102

There was a little tiny voice in the back of my head telling me not to make the bishop comment. Of course I forged right ahead.

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 15:41:47 from 131.59.200.80

Sorry to take the class out of your blog Flat, most people are mature enough to resist...most people.

From flatlander on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 15:49:38 from 198.207.244.102

No problem, if I had waited just a minute I would have seen the connection and worded it differently, but no, not me. I wonder if Burt is back yet from his afternoon break?

From Burt on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 16:49:58 from 206.19.214.144

I'm back now. I can't help but feel partially responsible to the downward spiral of this conversation.

From Burt on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 16:50:30 from 206.19.214.144

Smooth probably hates me by now.

From baldnspicy on Wed, May 05, 2010 at 00:05:23 from 72.77.121.216

Burt, actually, I think I was the one that started it on it's way down. You have to forgive me for my jaded view of callings. I fully believe that the people that are called (no matter what the calling) are supposed to be there. I support each and every one of them.

Let me explain my (warped?) view of our ward. If there are ward members that actually read my blog, maybe they'll learn something. Our ward spans from about 5 miles from the city to about 25 miles. The rich people live up north, us poor people live in the "ghetto." There is a very distinct line - typically drawn by zip codes (yes, Utah bloggers, we have wards that span more than a couple of blocks haha). So there's that division.

Then the types of people that comprise our ward further divide. As I mentioned, we have a disproportionate number of "white collar" lawyers, doctors, CEOs, and even a Pittsburgh Steeler. Not only that, but we get the medical and dental residents that move in, stay for a couple of years, then move out. The funny thing is that all of these students live better than I do (on student loans) and are social climbers. So, when they find out that I'm just some computer nerd that lives in the ghetto, they move on. No skin off my back.

So you have the haves, the have-nots, and the students (have-nots, but will eventually be haves). We've had a couple of families that we were friends with from the time we moved in (they were students) but as soon as they were doctors, they moved up north and they were assimilated into that social group, never to talk to us again.

I have held "big" callings in the past, but I've never aspired to them. I like my Primary calling, working with the 10 year olds, and doing Scouting. The Bishop asked me if I wanted a change and I told him no way. I'm happy where I am.

Sorry for the long post, but I feel like I had to explain my comment so that non-Mormons wouldn't think that people that are called to be Bishops, Stake Presidents, High Counselors, etc. is because they're rich, powerful, etc. That has nothing to do with it, and I don't want people thinking that I believe it does. Some of the best leaders I've ever had were ones that were not well off. They were humble, willing to help, compassionate, and were sensitive to your particular situation. I've also had an incredible Bishop (he's now our Stake President) who is the CEO of a network TV station here. He's probably one of the richest people in our stake, but he is the most humble, kind, warm, personable person I think I've ever met. He didn't get called to be a Bishop or Stake President because of his money, power, influence, or anything like that. He was called because he is a very good man. I respect him highly.

Now, if you've read this far, I hope I've explained myself better. After rereading my post, I see how it could be taken the wrong way...

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6.210.000.000.006.21

75F, clear, wind WSW 2 mph, 43% humidity.  Great running weather this morning -- clear, sunshine and almost no humidity.  Very little sweat on my shirt despite the higher temperatures.  We are going up to 90 today and yesterday was 92, basically mid-summer temperatures.  Ran 6.21 miles in 1:01:22, average pace 9:53 per mile, regular shoes and no heart rate monitor.  Slept in trying to get past the jet-lag fog and finally made it out the door at about 9 o'clock.  I was hoping my left ankle would not be an issue and for the most part it wasn't.  I could feel it a little bit, though it never affected my form or my speed.  As a result I decided to cut the run short and see how the ankle feels throughout the day.  If it still feels OK after walking on it all day and getting a good night's sleep, I'll ramp up some more tomorrow.  It's great to be home.

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From Burt on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 12:37:31 from 206.19.214.144

Glad you had a good trip and your ankle's doing better.

From Smooth on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 12:53:01 from 174.23.172.155

Sounds like you're doing the right stuff to get over the jet-lag and back at it. WOW! 90 degrees! Have a great week!

From lightitup on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 13:46:29 from 67.185.20.107

Finally! I was about to die with all this running you weren't doing!

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 04, 2010 at 13:54:45 from 131.59.200.80

Welcome back! Good to see you getting in some miles. 75 is a hot run - they're forecasting 100 degrees for us on Thursday but our low temps are still nice in the morning (low 60s).

From flatlander on Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:27:57 from 75.247.0.23

Burt, Smooth and Joe, thanks for the encouragement. It feels good to be home, but I had a great time.

E, how is your health, any further progress with the issues you had in Boston?

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10.050.000.000.0010.05

76F, clear, wind SW 7mph, humidity 52%, great running weather.  Ran 10.05 miles in 1:38:37, average pace 9:49 per mile, no heart rate monitor and regular shoes.  I was on pace to average 9:30 per mile through about mile 7.5, then got stopped by a big red-neck hound dog off its leash and never got going very well after that, not that I wanted to push too hard today anyway.  I got out late this morning after working late last night so heat was a definite factor, but I believe that I have lost some conditioning as a result of my ankle problems.  The cross-training helped some but didn't completely compensate.  Interesting that my quads were sore from the 6 miles I ran yesterday at a pretty modest speed.  No ankle issues, so assuming that holds throughout the day I will go back to my regular long, slow pace tomorrow, with fast miles at the end, and eventually get in some time in my very fashionable flats as well.  I still think the best way to train is either slow or hard.  I am a little skeptical of in-between miles like I ran today, although certainly the main thing is just being out there and going at it.

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From KP on Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:29:00 from 65.208.22.26

a hound dog wouldn't hurt a fly! they are cute!!

From flatlander on Wed, May 05, 2010 at 12:13:19 from 75.247.0.23

Fly or flea? If that thing had bit me who knows what kind of exotic disease I might have acquired. I admit though, they are better than those door-stop yap-yap dogs. My wife got one once and it lasted about 6 weeks before she sold it, with a big assist from me. Overbred and not too bright. Mutts are better.

From Mack on Wed, May 05, 2010 at 18:21:18 from 71.111.186.66

Nice to see you getting back to full health. I have found the same thing: cross training is good but still won't completely stem the loss of running fitness.

Redneck hound dog? I'm picturing a dog with a confederate flag bandanna?? Or a dog in the back of an old beater truck with a gun rack??

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.950.000.000.003.95

66F, cloudy wind SE 1 mph, 95% humidity, great morning for running, except that I slept in.  A thunderstorm came through last night and reset my clock back to midnight, so I woke up with light seeping through the windows.  Felt great to get 8 hours though.  Only had time for 4 before taking my daughter to school.  Plus the dog ate my homework.  Average pace 11:29, low heart rate and regular shoes.  Definitely not back to normal.  Might go out again later today, depending on how my ankle feels.  It started hurting yesterday afternoon, but never got to the limping stage and felt OK this morning. 

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From Rye on Thu, May 06, 2010 at 22:28:45 from 97.121.2.11

66 degrees 95 percent humidity. Man we had a half inch of snow today! Our two dogs have ate their share of homework. Don't you just hate that!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.002.170.000.0010.17

70F, 90% humidity, wind S 6 mph at start, 72F, 94% humidity, wind S 8-16 mph at end.  Beautiful morning for running.  Worked late and got to bed late last night but went ahead and set the alarm for 5:00 so as to sure and have adequate time to run before the day started.  Instead I woke up at 4:00 (lovely being old), finally got up at 4:45 and was out the door by 5:15.  Ran 8 at low heart rate, which this morning meant a pace just slightly under 12, not too good but my ankle felt fine.  After a quick bathroom and water break (yep, Bald, I stopped the clock), I ran the last 2 and change at marathon pace, splits were 8:36 and 8:14, with an 8:13 pace for the stub split.  It actually felt pretty easy, though I could feel residual weakness in my ankle as soon as I sped up.  Assuming my legs hold up I can probably start doing some 7s again before long.  My next milestone is a 10K at 7:00 pace, not sure how long it will take to get there, especially in the heat.  Overall pace this morning was 11:12, but it was really two runs.

We are headed to 93 today, almost a record.  Then the wind is turning to the north tonight and tomorrow, supposed to be in the 10-20 range but it won't cool much, only down to 67F tonight and hitting mid-80s tomorrow.  Our breezes might not be much by Abilene or Kansas standards, but I'm gonna go ahead and call it windy here.  If my ankle stays OK today I'll probably attempt a regular long slow run in the morning.

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From lightitup on Fri, May 07, 2010 at 12:45:53 from 67.185.20.107

Consistency is key, now we just need to get a race on the books. Ice that ankle after every run until it yells at you that it's fine.

From SlowJoe on Fri, May 07, 2010 at 14:17:14 from 131.59.200.82

Houston never cools off, does it? In Abilene it may get up to 100 but at night/early morning it cools down significantly and is rarely humid.

With your dedication and mileage I think that 10K goal is valid. I looked and there were at least a dozen 55+ going that fast in Austin, and a few 60+.

From flatlander on Fri, May 07, 2010 at 16:11:37 from 198.207.244.102

E, yeah, I'm wanting another race, but the problem is I am out of shape now. I hate to run if I don't think I can do well, probably a bad attitude to have.

Joe, thanks, were the Austin runners that fast for a 10K or for a full marathon? That is about a 3:04 pace for a marathon, so that would be pretty fast for somebody my age, especially a dozen in one race, although the 55+ winner at Boston was 2:42, I just can't get over that.

From SlowJoe on Fri, May 07, 2010 at 16:23:17 from 131.59.200.82

No, I was just talking about that 10K I ran last month. Evidence that it is do-able. I can't wrap my brain around 3:04 for a marathon at any age but I guess plently of people do that too!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
20.280.000.000.0020.28

71F, wind NE 3 mph, humidity 73%, wind picked up a little and temperature up a little during the run.  It was a great morning for running, clear at first and then clouding over right about sunrise.  I ran 20.28 in 3:47:02, average pace 11:12, regular shoes.  I ran the first 10 at low heart rate, which was about a 12-minute pace, not sure why but I think it is the heat.  Then I picked it up the next 10, intended to run low 11s, but ended up mid-10s.  My last 6 splits were 10:30 (153), 10:26 (154), 10:40 (152), 10:22 (157), 10:20 (159) and 10:06 (162).  So my heart rate was moving up gradually the whole time but it never broke 160 until mile 19. 

Basically I had quite a bit in reserve, but my ankle was a little sore from running fast yesterday and I didn't want to dig myself a hole for Monday's session.  The other good thing I did was manage hydration better.  I have been a bad boy when it comes to drinking (don't get the wrong idea, we are only talking about water here), basically I don't bother.  But a long run in the heat and humidity forces the issue.  This time I started early and took a respectable drink every two miles or so, hauling a water bottle with me so I could do it.  It wasn't enough water to make my stomach slosh but it staved off dehydration.  I felt cramps coming on a couple of times and they might have been an issue if I had been running faster, but as it was I was able to control it by changing my stride a little to stretch my left hamstring.  In order to control cramping I need to think about taking salt, but that stuff really sends my stomach into orbit.

Well, no St. George for me and my siblings this year.  As a group we whiffed in the Lotto, and my brother who entered with my cousin also whiffed.  We are just not good gamblers.  One alternative is simply to do another fall marathon and I'll probably do that anyway.  But I'm thinking about doing the Utah Valley Marathon on June 12.  The course looks sweet, just not sure if it's too soon to BQ.  According to the McMillan Calculator, I can BQ if I can run a 10K at a 7:47 pace.  I have already done 7:53 for a 10K about a month ago, and I'm thinking that the course might be just fast enough to make up for the altitude.  But I might be pushing my ankle injury too hard, and I am close enough to the magic pace that if anything goes wrong it will probably do me in.  Lots to think about and not a lot of time to decide.

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From vinh on Sat, May 08, 2010 at 15:00:10 from 24.211.101.133

Congrats on 1000 miles this year! Nice run flatlander. You are killing it on mileage. I'm sorry you didn't make it in SGM. It would have been cool to see you there with all the other FRBers. I'm sure you'll do awesome on whatever marathon you run.

From lightitup on Sat, May 08, 2010 at 17:04:05 from 67.185.20.107

1000 miles? Crikey, you need new shoes.

And don't worry about Utah Valley. Although I am registered and committed, my body is not. I am still doing Ring Around the Rosie trying to find where everything will land with the hernia stuff. They can't even decide which imaging to do.

From SlowJoe on Sun, May 09, 2010 at 10:21:54 from 184.79.24.255

Real nice 20-miler. Does Gatorade mess with your stomach too? The sugar and sweat replacement components do wonders for refueling me.

Bummer about the St. George race - I guess that must be a popular one. Sounds like all the races in Utah go downhill though so that's gotta help some if you end up trying next month. Then there are plenty of fall races in TX, just in case.

From Smooth on Sun, May 09, 2010 at 22:50:58 from 174.23.172.155

NICE run in that heat and humidity! Thanks for the reminder on hydration. I need to do better this week on hydrating.

So sorry you didn't make the SGM lottery. I say go for it at UVM.

From flatlander on Mon, May 10, 2010 at 09:33:32 from 75.223.5.38

Vinh, thanks, I'm sure we'll meet at some point, maybe at the finish line after you've already gotten your massage and a shower!

E, I do have new shoes, those Brazilian dancing flats! They look great, just not completely acclimated to them, and once I start wearing them all the time they are going to wear out quickly.

Joe, yeah, I gave up on Gatorade after my first marathon. I'm going to try to work in some nutrition this summer as well as hydrating, because I think there is a benefit to taking on calories, at least early in the race, just have to tell my stomach who is boss, and right now it isn't me.

Smooth, thanks, I'm still thinking about UVM, will probably decide in the next day or two. In addition to being a fast course (I hope), the timing works really well with my schedule for that month.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.020.000.000.0010.02

73F, wind SSE 7 mph, 87% humidity, storms moving in.  Good running weather.  Ran 10.02 in 1:59:16, average pace 11:54 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  My ankle was tender for 3 miles then not an issue, so that was encouraging after Saturday's long run.  Not much else going on, except the strap on my hat came loose.  It will have to be re-attached, because I am not giving up on this hat.  I have run every mile I have ever run in it since my first marathon.  I wear it in races, I wear it training, I wear it to work, and to bed.  Maybe kidding on the last two.  Even more important, it covers my questionable hairline.  Bald is cool for some guys, like that blogger in Pittsburgh, but others have yet to embrace it.

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From Rye on Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:58:13 from 174.27.7.239

Have you considered bronzing? I have heard that they can bronze just about anything!

From Smooth on Mon, May 10, 2010 at 13:14:27 from 174.23.172.155

NICE mileage on a warm Monday morning especially after Saturday's nice long run. With a cool hat like that, everyday is good hairday, btw hair is over-rated!

From KP on Mon, May 10, 2010 at 14:57:31 from 65.208.22.26

ohhhh... a lucky hat! you getter get that fixed asap!

From Burt on Tue, May 11, 2010 at 15:03:20 from 206.19.214.144

Bronzing. LOL!

From baldnspicy on Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:57:32 from 72.77.64.196

I'd bronze my hair if I had any. Gotta keep that hat somehow!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.7510.75

75F, wind SSE 5 mph, 82% humidity, cloudy, great running weather.  Completely screwed up my Garmin this morning.  Forgot to re-set it going out, so I was running on top of yesterday's clock.  Then I hit the lap button, not sure what that did but nothing good.  Then after my sprint I turned it off, not sure why, for about 3/10 of a mile, so everything today is an estimate.  I ran the first 7 miles at low heart rate in regular shoes, mid 11s.  Then switched to flats and went as far as I could at a 7:10 pace, trying for 7:00 but that wasn't happening.  I ran out of gas after about 3/4 of a mile, but hey, I got my first distance in at close to my next goal 10K pace, just have to run that hard for another 5.5 miles and I'll be good to go.  After that I went back to original pace, although my heart rate was in the 140s because of the sprint.  On my sister's orders I iced down my ankle after the run and so far it feels great, like I don't have to wait 12 hours for the inflammation to fade.  We'll see how it holds up today, but I might have stumbled on to a pretty good solution here.

Well, I took the plunge.  I'm going to run the Utah Valley Marathon this year, signed up last night just before the fee went up.  It is way ahead of schedule to get a BQ, but the ankle is improving, I'm in range, the course is fast and the weather should be cool.  So I'm going to try.  I still have a few weeks to improve, so maybe it will work out OK.  I have to run 8:37 pace to qualify, pretty ambitious, but I'm glad to just have a chance.

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From SlowJoe on Tue, May 11, 2010 at 13:33:00 from 131.59.200.80

Good, I think you have a pretty good chance to BQ. Are there any hills within a 100-mile radius of Houston that you can practice running down?

From flatlander on Tue, May 11, 2010 at 13:40:20 from 198.207.244.102

Nope, other than freeway offramps, which I have looked at longingly but which bring their own unique set of dangers. But I have a secret plan. I am going to prop up the back of my wife's treadmill and create a negative incline. I can't do it in the morning when she is sleeping, so this is going to mean two-a-days. Gotta do it though, can't miss out because of trashed quads.

From Smooth on Tue, May 11, 2010 at 18:09:14 from 174.23.172.155

Yay! you made the decision and sounds like you have a good plan and chance for that BQ at UVM!

From lightitup on Tue, May 11, 2010 at 20:17:34 from 67.185.20.107

That's what I do. I have two encylopedias, about 1.4 inches each. No idea what incline that creates, I think that would require math...you do it.

From baldnspicy on Tue, May 11, 2010 at 21:22:29 from 72.77.64.196

Nice! Signing up is 90% of the battle. Once you're committed, you work a little harder knowing you've got that goal to hit! You'll do great! I'll be sending positive vibes your way for a BQ!!

From flatlander on Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:45:28 from 75.228.219.188

Smooth, thanks, feels great to have a near-term race coming up all of a sudden. I thought I was focused before, but there is more urgency now.

E, happy to do the math, but you gotta give me the length to the nearest tenth of an inch! %slope = rise over run, then multiply by 100. Not bad for a lawyer, huh?

Bald, thanks, I can feel those vibes already. Another benefit for us hair-challenged guys, we can communicate without interference to the radio waves. The rest of the world has no idea.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.030.000.000.0012.03

75F, 84% humidity, wind SSE 10-18 mph.  'Twas a great running day.  Ran 12.03 in 2:18:03, average pace 11:29 per mile, low heart rate.  Ran the first two miles in flats then switched to regular shoes.  First five splits were 11:42, 10:45, 11:17, 11:22, 11:13.  Ignoring the first mile, which I always run slow until my heart gets warmed up, this is pretty good evidence that on the same day in the same conditions I am 30 seconds per mile faster in my flats, possibly more than that because my fastest mile is usually my fifth mile.  That is too much advantage to pass up, I need to get my ankles in shape to wear flats for the marathon, so I'll be trying to wear them every day for at least part of the run.  I could feel the weakness in my ankles for the first two miles, then my feet felt more support when I put on regular shoes, so I think it is just a matter of building up to it.  I have enough time if I keep at it.  I iced my ankle down and it feels fine so far today.

Also worked on hydration this morning.  I realized that if I try to drink all the time, even if I'm not that thirsty, maybe I can increase my ability to absorb water.  Worth a try.  Also weighed myself, down to 165, so making progress.  That is 35 off altogether from the beginning.  I ran St. George in 2009 at about 180.

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From Rye on Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:53:47 from 174.27.4.162

Great job on the weight loss. Keep up the great running.

From Smooth on Wed, May 12, 2010 at 16:23:38 from 174.23.172.155

NICE run and mileage! It is getting warm there. EXCELLENT job on the weight loss. Thanks for the hydration reminder. I'm going to get a drink now!

From Huans32 on Wed, May 12, 2010 at 17:58:58 from 138.64.8.52

Wow that is awesome weight loss bro. Your really doing great.

From SlowJoe on Wed, May 12, 2010 at 20:23:20 from 184.79.24.255

I like how 75 degrees and humid is a good running day for you - I obviously complain too much!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.032.000.001.1912.22

75F, 85% humidity, wind SSE 10-20 mph.  Good running weather.  Ran 12.22 miles at a mixture of speeds, overall pace 10:58 per mile, low heart rate on the easy miles.  I warmed up in flats then tried to run at 7:00 per mile, my new 10K goal.  Had to quit after .32 miles (7:02 pace) because the house key fell out of a hole in my pocket.  (Bet that's the first time anybody heard that one.)  So I jogged for a while longer then tried it again.  This time I made .87 miles at 7:09 pace (top heart rate 186 bpm) before the wind picked up and slowed me down.  Then I jogged back to the house and changed to regular shoes, ankle was feeling it a little bit and still is.  I went back to low heart rate (about 12:00 per mile, some higher some lower) until mile 9.  Even though the regular shoes felt heavy and clunky, I knew I needed some marathon pace miles, so I did the last two at 8:37 and 8:26, although it was hard to hold a steady pace, I kept wanting to go to either 8:00 or 9:00.  Anyway, it went pretty well, I thought it would be harder than it was after running ten miles including a little bit of fast stuff, but probably a good thing it wasn't, otherwise I wouldn't have a prayer for a BQ in a month.  There is a workout that people talk about, which is to do a 20-mile run, first half at MP plus 1.5 minutes, then 8 at MP then 2 at 10K pace, accelerating to 5K pace for the last 400.  They say if you can do that one you will have confidence that you can make your marathon pace in the actual marathon.  I have a few Saturday's left, maybe I'll try that one a couple of times if my left ankle holds up.

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From Burt on Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:29:41 from 206.19.214.144

You must be getting really fast Mark.

From lightitup on Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:54:02 from 67.185.20.107

I hope your ankle does better throughout the day today.

As far as confidence, I think only you know what will help your confidence...if you think X, Y, or Z, will best ensure your overall goal, do that. I went into Boston unconvinced of my training...although I had a hernia, I don't know if I could have gotten my goal without it, simply because my head was in the way.

From KP on Thu, May 13, 2010 at 13:07:03 from 65.208.22.26

nice mileage!

From Mack on Thu, May 13, 2010 at 19:22:27 from 71.111.186.66

Be careful with that ankle and either buy some new shorts or at least sew up the hole in the pocket!

From Rye on Fri, May 14, 2010 at 18:27:24 from 174.27.100.178

Hey atleast you took a house key with you. I don't think of taking one with me. I think that someones going to be home to let me in. I've waited for an hour to get in. Hideaway key would be to easy.

From flatlander on Fri, May 14, 2010 at 18:36:09 from 75.247.137.189

Thanks all.

E, I'll get confidence all right if I can do the run. If I can't it would have been better not to do it.

As for my shorts, I guess I need new ones. I have only two. The expensive one got the hole in it, of course.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

About 10 degrees cooler this morning, great running weather, didn't run though.  Was up very late working and the ankle was a still a little iffy this morning after yesterday's frolic.  It gets more sore as the day wears on, which probably means that inflammation builds up from sitting all day.  So I did elliptical for an hour this morning after sleeping in and taking my daughter to school.  Actually ran the machine pretty fast -- I didn't bring my heart rate monitor but I could tell it was racing by the time I finished.  Still, I'm not going to put down anything other than 6 easy for an hour on the elliptical.  It feels much better today so I think I can run in the morning, not sure how far.  Kind of frustrating to be training around an injury while trying to get ready for a race, but so far it has worked out.

Maybe it was the high sustained rate on the machine, but driving around to my meetings today I felt wonderful.  I guess it was endorphins but it almost seemed more than that, like all the toxins were flushed out of my system.  That sounds pretty new-agey I guess.  So I stopped and bought fries.

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From SlowJoe on Fri, May 14, 2010 at 21:05:37 from 184.79.24.255

That's pretty funny! Fries are carbs, by the way. That's what I tell myself. Sounds like a nice torture session on the elliptical.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.001.020.000.0011.02

66F, 100% humidity, wind NNW 6 mph.  66F was nice running weather, felt great for the first 100 yards but I embraced it even after that.  I looked at the 10-day forecast and it is showing thunderstorms everyday, first time I have ever seen that.  The forecasts never actually happen exactly as predicted, but I think we have a lot of moisture coming in.  Thunderstorms are the one no-no I impose on my running, but usually they boil up in the afternoon so I should be OK. 

Oh yes, I went for a run this morning.  I went 11.02 miles, average pace 9:49, regular shoes.  The plan was to do 20, first half at marathon pace plus 1.5, then marathon pace for 8, then 10K pace for the last 2.  My ankle was very stiff to start out but it loosened up and I did the first 10 at about 9:55 per mile.  Did the next mile at 8:38, one second over marathon pace, then a few steps into my second mile I re-pulled my groin, in a single step.  I knew instantly what it was because the identical thing happened in my last marathon.  It is posible to run through it but not smart.  I stopped immediately and walked home, otherwise I would pay a price that I have learned is too high.  Probably bad form caused it.  I was smelling this run, it was there.  I am pretty sure I could have finished it as planned, though the 10K splits at the end might have been a little iffy.  So I think I am going to play it conservatively and go back to the machines for a week.  Then I will run in Utah this next weekend since I am traveling there for my son-in-law's graduation; maybe I can get acclimated a little for the Utah Valley Marathon in four weeks.

The way I figure it, for UVM I have three things going for me:  Temperature/humidity, taper and downhill.  The altitude is against me.  I believe the temperature will at a minimum make up for the altitude, it is very draining to run in high humidity at 65F+.  So I net out to plus 2, the taper and the downhill slant of the course.  I should be OK, but race day will tell the tale, as it always does.  You are what you ran last, and until I run something better I am a 4:13 marathoner.

Happy weekend, all y'all.

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From jasro on Sat, May 15, 2010 at 13:51:44 from 67.177.39.43

Good job. Sorry about the groin. I hope things work out for the race. Enjoy Utah when you are here.

From lightitup on Sat, May 15, 2010 at 15:51:42 from 166.205.141.144

Such a fine line! Injury/train. I agree with your decision this morning....always be careful. You can't lose over the long haul. I had to watch the Spokane Windermere marathon this morning, I hope you don't have a hernia.

From SlowJoe on Sat, May 15, 2010 at 18:54:29 from 184.79.24.255

Bummer about the groin, sounds like you were ready for that big run.

From Mack on Mon, May 17, 2010 at 20:06:33 from 71.111.186.66

Smart move stopping and walking home. That is very tough to do, but very smart. You can lose this battle and still win the war at UVM. Hope you heal up fast.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.880.000.000.0011.88

Great running weather indoors today.  Ran .33 to the rec center then did 85 minutes of elliptical (counting 8.5, even though the meter read more than that).  Tonight I propped up the back of my wife's treadmill and did 3 more at some sort of a downhill slant, 10:54 per mile (5.5 mph).  Not exactly sure of the incline, I'll have to measure it, but I need to do this almost every day so I don't crater at the end of UVM.  I raised the TM about an inch, so probably something like a 1.5% slope, probably should raise it another inch, maybe experiment with higher speeds and get some blood flowing as long as I am on the machine.

Is it possible to get injured on the elliptical?  I was hurting bad enough when I was done this morning that I decided to walk home, almost made my daughter late for school.  I thought I could wear flats and it wouldn't make a difference, but my ankle felt better tonight in regular shoes.  In fact, it felt as good on the treadmill tonight as it did on the elliptical this morning.  Ditto with the groin, go figure.  Just have to see how it plays out this week.

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From SlowJoe on Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:34:10 from 131.59.200.80

I like the downhill running ingenuity. Mt legs have never been more sore than after the 10K I ran in Austin with the kind of hills I've never run on before, so I think you're doing the smart thing.

From Burt on Tue, May 18, 2010 at 13:26:38 from 206.19.214.144

I've never ran on the elliptical, but my boss swears that's what caused his injuyr.

From Burt on Tue, May 18, 2010 at 13:26:58 from 206.19.214.144

uh, switch those last two letters around. thank you.

From flatlander on Tue, May 18, 2010 at 23:50:36 from 75.223.152.238

Joe, thanks, I figure I am going to have enough to deal with, would be nice to be able to take full advantage of the downhill in order to get some extra speed.

Burt, two layt.

From Burt on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 01:45:48 from 98.177.220.145

C'mon! there was only 20 seconds between posts! I'm still within my statute of limitations.

From flatlander on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 07:57:57 from 75.247.8.237

Well, OK I guess, since you didn't say statue of limitations. Not bad for an engineer.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.660.000.000.0011.66

Similar routine as yesterday, did 90 minutes on the elliptical and 2 on the treadmill tonight, plus ran to the rec center and back.  I set the treadmill at 4% negative slope.  If you can't stand the treadmill, I recommend trying the elliptical.  It makes the treadmill an absolute pleasure.  It looks to me like the average decline at UVM is 1% (1500 feet net elevation decrease over 26.2 miles), so getting used to running at 4% should be adequate if I get in enough distance.  Ankle feels OK today, not great but it should make it.

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From lightitup on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 00:13:17 from 67.185.20.107

K, so how thick was your encyclopedia?

From baldnspicy on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 00:16:54 from 72.77.64.196

I'm sure he uses law books, Light. He probably chose 4% since there aren't any law books thinner than 6". :-)

Nice job, Flat! We may have to change your name after this UVM!

From Smooth on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 00:18:04 from 174.23.172.155

Wow! You're doing awesome with creating your own downhill training! Glad to hear the ankle feels ok. Who would've known that one can get hurt on an elliptical!

From flatlander on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 08:05:47 from 75.247.8.237

E, 2 inches actually. The distance between the pedestal things on the treadmill is 52 inches, so that makes slightly over a 4% slope.

Bald, good idea! I have some law books in my study, state court cases from 1890 in Minnesota. I must say they aren't the most cutting edge resource materials, should have used them on the TM.

Smooth, thanks, it's nice to have something new to blame for my injuries.

From SlowJoe on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 18:49:12 from 184.79.24.255

Your plan sounds good. An average -1% probably means -4 down then +3 up, -6, +5, etc. Good luck with the ankle the rest of the way.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

9 on elliptical, 3 on treadmill tonight at 4% decline, no running outside today, all regular shoes.  I wore a monitor for the elliptical and I mostly stayed at low heart rate, though it climbed in the last 20 minutes to about 140.  Interesting that it doesn't do that when I run until I get over two hours.

So tonight was the tale of two daughters.  We took our youngest daughter to her junior high school awards ceremony.  She got some good academic awards but we had to sit through a half-hour speech by the principal about excellence and everybody is a winner.  My middle daugher didn't go, she has never been to one, never had the need; but she knows about the speeches, she calls them words for nerds.  She is the food nazi so she was home cooking dinner while we were gone, and still cooking long after we got home.  Finally we got served about 9:30, some healthy little pasta thingy, bless her cholesterol-free heart.  Good thing my wife bought ding dongs today or I might have starved.

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From KP on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 23:50:47 from 69.255.142.204

haha... i love your family updates!

nice work on the elip today! i've always wanted to run on a treadmill at a decline. i need to try that some time...

From flatlander on Fri, May 21, 2010 at 00:37:14 from 198.207.244.102

KP, thanks. The downhill treadmill is fun. It isn't very hard, but I think it is doing good work for me right now, big advantage if I can get down the hill and not have to slow down because of sore quads.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.660.000.000.0012.66

9 on elliptical, 0.66 running and 3 tonight on the treadmill.  Elliptical and running was in flats, but my ankle was still barking at me a little bit.  The treadmill was in regular shoes and felt better.  I also walked about 2 miles around downtown this afternoon going to a meeting, feels fine to walk, it's just the pounding from running that aggravates it.  Iced twiced today, which always feels good.  This concludes my regularly scheduled program for the week.  Actually, I'll do machines in the morning, then travel to SLC for a graduation and try to get in some runs over the weekend at altitude.  My wife says it will be raining, what kind of a deal is that?

Yesterday I went into the rec center a little later because I noticed the day before that everybody left for work by 7:30.  So I waited until I dropped my daughter off and had the rec center all to myself -- for about 20 minutes until the Stepford wives came in with full makeup and $500 workout suits.  Some of them must have been up since 4:30 getting ready.  They had obviously provided Christmas for a lot of plastic surgeons.  There was a cardio coach yelling somethng about "abs" and "reps", but I am pretty sure not one of them can run a mile under 10 minutes, if at all.  Not sure how I ended up in that situation, but at least they were done in about 15 minutes.  This morning I was back at it, fighting for time on the machines with the sweaty earlybirds and happy to do it.

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From Rye on Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:21:56 from 97.121.11.111

Have a great trip to SLC. We drove through Salt Lake wed taking our daughter to the MTC. Too many people for me. Hey watch out for those Stepford wives. 15 minutes of cardio and some cosmetic surgery is all it takes!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

60 minutes on the treadmill, then got on a plane and traveled to SLC for a graduation.  Planned to run tonight, but the schedule would not permit.  Trying to put a couple of runs together for tomorrow, in between graduation events, hoping to acclimate to the altitude a little.

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From SlowJoe on Sat, May 22, 2010 at 16:28:04 from 184.79.24.255

I'm sure it was good to get off the elliptical at least. Have fun running in Utah - try to find some flat portions!

From flatlander on Sun, May 23, 2010 at 17:49:39 from 75.247.127.198

Joe, hey, at least I found a flat treadmill!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.007.100.000.0013.10

Woke up early in SLC this morning and did 6.0 treadmill miles at about a 10 minute pace.  Then went to my son-in-law's graduation and broke away in the afternoon for a drive down to Provo to run.  I hooked up with my brother and we ran 7.1 in Provo Canyon at 8:53 per mile, slightly slower than marathon pace.  We started about a mile and a half above Vivian Park on the South Fork Road where we parked a car, ran down to the main road then down the paved trail to the parking lot at the mouth of the canyon, driving back up to retrieve the car. 

The object today was to get some familiarity with the course and get in some running at altitude, but more importantly to see how big of an impediment the altitude is going to be for me.  It is a big impediment.  I can write it off to a few factors that wouldn't be present on race day:  running in the afternoon, second run of the day, rusty legs from not running outside all week, not wearing racing flats, no taper, etc.  Some of that might mitigate, but the fact is I struggled to maintain pace at this altitude.  I could have run it harder, but it wasn't easy enough and I am skeptical about being able to do it for the whole distance.  I assumed that low temperatures and downhill would compensate for altitude, but that did not happen today.  At sea level, I ran better in the heat on flat terrain as recently as a week ago.  I realized the obvious, which is that altitude is a limiting factor rather than an adjustment factor.  You might get better at running in altitude, but you will always be faster at sea level.

So not sure whether to go ahead and do this race.  I have heard they are flexible about deferring entry fees and I haven't bought a plane ticket yet, so it wouldn't be that big of a deal financially.  But I hate to change plans.

Anyway, my wife and I had a wonderful time in Utah.  My son-in-law graduated from medical school at the U, wearing his red gown with unusual pride for a BYU grad.  He said he requested blue and was politely refused -- maybe not so politely.  Also got to see both brothers who live in the area, running with one, as well as visit my uncle and aunt, my son and his wife, and my wife's brother and his wife who are both running UVM.  We ate at a great restaurant on 13th East called Market Street Grill.  I look forward to more visits so I can work my way through their extensive seafood menu.  Today I started by ordering steak.

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From lightitup on Sun, May 23, 2010 at 20:31:01 from 67.185.20.107

Um, HELLO! You had better run this! I just got through talking to my fam about how excited I am you are running this with me. I know the altitude is a factor. Maybe you could artificially decrease the oxygen in your house at night, like Kara Goucher does. Then again, she still hasn't won the Boston marathon....

From jasro on Mon, May 24, 2010 at 18:03:06 from 198.50.4.4

He he ... Why didn't he go to BYU to get his medical degree so he could wear blue? Oh, that's right, BYU doesn't have a medical school (lol). (This coming from a Y undergrad who asked for a red gown. But I did get my law degree from the U, so I made up for it). Congrats to you and your son. What an accomplishment!! My wife and I have lunch at Market Street all the time. We love the chowder. Next time you are up here and want to do a morning run, let me know. Stockton and I would love to have you join us. Beats the treadmill everytime, right?

From Rye on Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:55:16 from 174.27.115.26

Congrats! I went to a basketball game between the U and BYU and wow! Hostility abounds! That is a beautiful part of Utah....I haven't enjoyed my last two visits there. We seem to have more space in our car on are way back home!

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0.009.660.000.009.66

89F, 43% humidity, wind SE 18-22 mph.  I am in Dallas for a wind power convention through Wednesday.  Finished up for the day and went out about 4:00 in the afternoon for a run through downtown to the American Airlines Center, then got on a path called the Katy Trail.  It is about 5K, 10K round trip.  Nice trail, with drinking fountains every mile or so.  I tried to hold marathon pace for as long as possible, but eventually the heat caught up with me, so I switched to holding a 175 bpm heart rate (92% of maximum), which eventually caused my pace to fall into the 10s.  I was very tired and my face was very red when I finished.  But it was a good workout, no dehydration issues, and I am glad I did it.  No ankle problems today, so pretty encouraging on that front.  Comparing this heat run to Saturday's altitude run, I think the heat was harder, but not sure whether it does any good except preparing to run in the heat.  I'll have to see if there is some information on that.

I really need new clothes, I am starting to look like a scarecrow man.  The old ones aren't worn out and it is against my nature to throw out perfectly good clothes.  Hopefully I will never need that size again.

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From KP on Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:17:12 from 65.208.22.26

yawn. oh, sorry. you lost me at wind power convention.

way to get in some nice miles in the heat! buy some new clothes! i love buying new running clothes. i do it too often.

From flatlander on Tue, May 25, 2010 at 23:10:13 from 198.207.244.102

Yeah, this convention is pretty boring, that is why I have so much time to run all of a sudden! It all ends tomorrow, though.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.660.000.000.0015.66

AM, 6.0 on the treadmill at the hotel, about 11 minute pace, in flat shoes.  PM, ran the same 9.66 mile course as yesterday, regular shoes, 1:39:52, average pace about 10:30 per mile, 89F, 42% humidity.  Some fairly quick miles in there about marathon pace + 45, but overall 5 minutes slower than yesterday.  I forgot my heart rate monitor and I am a little afraid of working too hard in this heat.  I worked plenty hard anyway.

I found out there is a 5K race for conference participants in the morning on the Katy Trail, the same one I have been running, but I think it is too late to register.  Not sure I want to do any speed work right now anyway.  My ankle has held up pretty well the last few days and I probably shouldn't try to push my luck.

I have been hydrating well and my absorbtion rate has been good, no sloshing.  If nothing else, that one aspect of heat training should help me get through a marathon better than I have done in the past.  I can't believe anybody could run a marathon in this much heat, at any speed.  It is just beyond me.

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From SlowJoe on Tue, May 25, 2010 at 22:30:48 from 184.79.24.255

PM runs in TX = not fun. Way to slog it out, that's an impressive total for the day.

From Smooth on Tue, May 25, 2010 at 23:34:20 from 174.23.172.155

NICE two-a-day runs especially in that heat! UVM will feel like a breeze for you!

I do not like 5Ks. Can you believe people actually pay to do all that heavy breathing? :)

From flatlander on Thu, May 27, 2010 at 18:45:05 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, thanks, I'm hoping it makes a difference.

Smooth, yes, I believe it, we are all gluttons for pain I think.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.660.000.000.009.66

75F, 70% humidity, very Houston-esque.  Ran the same route (Katy Trail) as the last two days in Dallas, 9.66 miles, but this time ran it in the morning and at low heart rate, regular shoes.  Took about 2 hours.  Much easier but my legs needed it.

The trail in the morning is very crowded, great for people watching.  I guess the strangest thing I saw was coming up on a lady with a baby stroller.  I saw everybody coming the other way looking into her stroller.  As I passed I glanced back and it was the strangest looking baby, actually it was a dog.  Something is very wrong there.

I passed on the 5K this morning, no way to register and probably wasn't a good idea anyway.  They were just putting everything away except the outhouses as I ran past the start line.  Coming back the other way toward the end of my run I decided that the port o potty placement was very strategic.

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From KP on Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:18:05 from 65.208.22.26

while i was in DC, i saw a man carrying a dog in one of those baby carriers you wear on your chest where the baby faces forward. i thought that was odd. people are just too into dogs these days. it is an animal.

From flatlander on Wed, May 26, 2010 at 19:01:49 from 76.31.26.153

I had dinner with a client last night who admitted that he once spent $1,000 on a vet bill for a pet lizard. If it wasn't an expensive lizard when he bought it I guess it quickly became one.

From KP on Wed, May 26, 2010 at 19:31:27 from 98.67.171.202

i have some running friends that don't have any kids that recently spent nearly $15,000 on their dog that is having digestion issues. i nearly fainted when they were telling me that.

From SlowJoe on Wed, May 26, 2010 at 23:03:05 from 184.79.24.255

I used to like pets before we had kids. Now I would pull the plug on our cat if the bill was more than 99 cents.

Nice mileage again in the yuck.

From jasro on Thu, May 27, 2010 at 20:53:26 from 64.255.180.191

Good run. Way to stay with it.

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6.000.000.000.006.00

So last night after returning from Dallas I turned around and drove to Temple, Texas, about 2-1/2 hours from here, to meet my daughter and her family who had just arrived from Utah with their moving van.  My son-in-law and I unloaded the whole thing by ourselves.  He is a clever guy and strong but he needed me and my wisdom acquired through the ages, especially when it was time to unload the piano.  (Into the living room without a scratch.)  We finished at 1 a.m.  I slept on the floor, got up and drove back to Houston.  Then put in almost a full day at work.

Bottom line, 6 on the treadmill tonight, 4% decline, 6 mph as I watched the Lakers steal one from the Suns, texting with my brother who lives in the Phoenix area.  Sorry Burt, but I think your team still has a chance, they look good right now.

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From KP on Fri, May 28, 2010 at 09:55:40 from 65.208.22.26

my goodness! you had quite a day. get some rest this weekend.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.162.000.000.0010.16

70F, 98% humidity, wind 0 mph.  Ran 10.16 in 1:43:34, average pace 10:12.  Started out in flat shoes and ran 3 miles at low heart rate, 12:34, 11:37, 11:37.  Flat shoes felt really good this morning, especially in my knees, it was like there was no pressure whatsoever in that area, very encouraging.  Then I switched to regular shoes and sped up to 10 minute miles through mile 8, then the last two at marathon pace, 8:36 and 8:26, heart rate 175 on the last one, then jogged it in.  Got back just in time to take my daughter to the bus stop.  Grabbed a new water bottle on my way out the door.  I was never in a fraternity but I chugged it all waiting for her bus.  She got out silently and walked away.  I think I may have caused some psychological damage there.

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From SlowJoe on Fri, May 28, 2010 at 09:52:03 from 184.79.24.255

Chug! Chug! Chug!

Nice MP miles.

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10.050.000.000.0010.05

72F, 80% humidity, clear.  Great morning for running under a full moon.  I had to make a trip to the airport to drop off my daughter and her husband for an early flight, so no long run today.  I will do it on Monday, which is still 12 days out from UVM and should be OK.

Ran 10.06 miles in 1:38:40, average pace 9:49 per mile, most splits between 9:38 and 9:55, which is MP + 1:10 or 1:15.  I ran in regular shoes today.  I was hurting in multiple places when I went to bed last night, but woke up early and felt good so I went out and got the run in before I had to leave.  Basically I ran the first half of the planned long run, the second half would be at marathon pace.  Monday will prove whether I can put it all together.  My heart rate started at 138 for the first mile, progressed rapidly to 155, then held steady until the last two or three miles, ending at 159 on a 9:37 final mile.  I can hold a 178-182 pace for 10K, so I can see some possibilities here.  If I can stay below 165 through the first half of UVM, I might just have a shot at my BQ.  But if I am at 175 at the half I don't think it will happen, because I would be at 185 or higher for the last 10K, too high to sustain.  I'll get more data on Monday.

My daughter and son-in-law left on a post-graduation vacation, leaving our two granddaughters here.  It is a reliable sign you are getting old when you would rather watch grandkids for 10 days than go on vacation.  Also when you wake up at 3:30 without an alarm clock, ready to run.

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From Smooth on Sun, May 30, 2010 at 23:34:34 from 174.23.172.155

NICE 10 miler both days!

How many are you running on Monday? GOOD LUCK w/ your last long run before UVM!!! Are you gonna start the run at 5:30am?

From flatlander on Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:32:24 from 198.207.244.102

Smooth, thanks so much for the encouragement. Today's run didn't go according to plan, variety of factors -- I started at 6 which probably was about a half-hour late the way things turned out. But it's all good, I love running.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.012.000.000.0012.01

72F, 92% humidity, wind calm, 75F at end  Rained last night but just made it more muggy, no break in the temperature.  Today's plan was to do 20, 10 at MP + 1.5 then 10 at MP.  First 10 went pretty well, heart rate stayed at or below 155 through the first 9.  When I sped up my legs felt heavy, then disaster -- I got to my water stop and somebody had taken my bottles.  I was already soaked to the skin, the sun was up and I couldn't risk running without water in these conditions.  So that was it.  Honestly, my heart rate had already climbed to 175 during miles 11 and 12 and I am not sure I could have made it another 8 at that speed anyway.  I lost net 5 pounds of water during the run, 169 down to 164.  Overall, 12.01 miles in 1:56:26, average pace 9:42 per mile. 

I think of runners as a pretty mellow group, but not everybody thinks running is a great thing.  Kind of discouraging when something like this happens.  It happened once before and somebody who saw me looking for my bottles came up and said they thought they were just cleaning up litter, so hopefully that is all it was.

So now I have a decision to make.  It looks like I am not in a position to BQ right now.  Might be a good idea to keep training instead of using up a month tapering and then ramping back up, I might be further ahead in the long run.  Plus, there are a lot of work pressures and pressures with the family's summer schedule.  The logistics and training for this marathon are starting to look difficult all of a sudden.  I need to decide soon.

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From lightitup on Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:29:30 from 67.185.20.107

I want to strangle the person who moved your bottles!

You know my opinion; tapers are a good thing and needed to avoid overtraining injuries. OTOH I woke up this morning thinking I don't know if I can keep up with you...maybe if you don't taper I can?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.462.000.000.006.46

75F, 85% humidity, wind SW 6 mph.  Very nice morning out.  I ran in flats, 6.46 miles, average pace 10:04.  Ran first 4 at low heart rate, 11:38, 10:39, 10:28 and 10:27, then ran two at MP (kind of), 8:46 (147 bpm) and 8:19 (158 bpm), then jogged it in at 10:24 pace.  Wore ice all the way in to work and my ankle feels fine so far.  Was surprised I could still run that fast at low heart rate with this much heat, I think it is the shoes more than anything.  The flat shoes almost force me to run up on my toes, which seems to make everything feel better.  My ankles feel some strain, but that is a training issue I think, not a permanent issue.  This run felt much better than yesterday's -- maybe because I ran 6 instead of 12? 

Still trying to decide about UVM.  If I thought I could get away with running it in flats I might just do it.  The latest idea is to arrive a few hours before the race.  Apparently some professional sports teams do that when they go in to Denver or SLC.  The theory as I understand it is that your lungs are shocked into taking in more oxygen.  I am a little skeptical, but a lot of experts say that is the best thing to do if you can't go in two weeks early.  There is a flight that gets in about 11:30 p.m. and I think the buses start running at about 3:30 a.m. if not earlier.   I'm not counting 8 hours in there anywhere.

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From RivertonPaul on Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 11:36:56 from 67.42.27.114

Another reason I treadmill run -- humidity. Way to persevere.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 19:43:04 from 204.133.180.90

That's interesting about how people combat the altitude issue. I suppose you could start adjusting your sleep to make that work but it sounds...tough. Nice run.

From Mack on Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 19:49:11 from 71.111.186.66

Have you felt the difference in altitude when you have run in Utah in the past?

From flatlander on Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 20:05:39 from 198.207.244.102

Paul, funny thing is, I sweat almost as much inside because there is no wind generated on those treadmill things.

Joe, they say you get no sleep the night before anyway, so might as well make it official. Problem though, their e-mail today said they would only give out packets to the actual runners, not sure how I am going to get around that one since that process closes at 9:00 the night before. I am starting to have family and work issues being away any longer than that anyway, so if I can't work something out with them I'll have to bag it for this year. How is Wyoming?

Mack, yeah, I ran part of the course when I was there a week ago and was not doing very well with the altitude. Just wasn't getting the push down the hill I was counting on. Ogden killed me a year ago, and I suspect it was the same issue. Kind of humbling for a guy who trained and ran at 7,000 feet in high school.

From baldnspicy on Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 09:01:38 from 72.95.171.93

Way to hang in there with the humidity! We're getting that too and it's hard. But we're tough runners, so nothing stops us!

I sweat a ton inside, but when it's hot outside, I come in and I sweat like a pig while I stretch, take a cool shower to try and cool off before going back to my desk in my cube. That still doesn't keep me from sweating like crazy for the next hour.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

Treadmill 4% decline at 10 minutes per mile, ran 6 miles this evening.  Work is tough right now so the taper comes at a good time.

UVM wrote back and said they would let someone else pick up my packet, so I am back on.  I plan to fly in late Friday night next week in a crazy attempt to beat the altitude.  Still don't understand the theory that well, but apparently if you do your thing right away after arriving at altitude the effects aren't as bad.  I'll take a nap before the plane leaves and try to get an exit row seat so I can sleep a little on the plane.  I should be OK, but a BQ at this point is a long shot.  I just have to be a good sport, try hard and be happy.  As my grandma used to say, "take what you get and don't throw a fit."  Well, I'm pretty sure somebody's grandma said that.

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From KP on Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 09:37:28 from 65.208.22.26

you've got a smart grandma...

From lightitup on Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 11:42:22 from 67.185.20.107

What is that called, when you fire off your own wisdom and claim someone else said it....cuz I thought we had the same Grandma...

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6.000.000.000.006.00

6 more treadmill miles at 10:00 pace, 4% decline, flat shoes again.  The flats didn't feel too good today, they are really putting my lower legs through a workout, I will need to be careful.  Another late night workwise, hopefully getting back on schedule by running in the morning.  I don't do as well running at night, just don't feel quite as good.  But have to do it when I can.

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From Smooth on Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 01:31:07 from 174.23.172.155

I'm glad to hear UVM let someone pick up your packet. sounds like a crazy schedule flying in. GOOD LUCK with work and taper.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.490.000.003.006.49

72F, 94% humidity, wind W 6 mph, beautiful morning for running, felt good to get outside.  I ran 6.49 miles in 1:00:59, average overall pace 9:24 per mile, flat shoes.  Started with two low heart rate miles, 11:13, 10:18, then 6 x 800 at 5K pace minus a little bit:  3:35 (7:11), 3:43 (7:26), 3:38 (7:17), 3:36 (7:12), 3:37 (7:15), 3:38 (7:17).  400 cool down between intervals and then jogged it in.  Funny thing is I never saw my heart rate above 170 and it never averaged higher than 164 for any inteval, even though I felt pretty tired.  I was watching it on the last one and for a while I thought it was broken, the readout wouldn't move off of 150.  Finally started to move but I am suspicious I wasn't getting accurate readings, as I felt like I was working pretty hard.  Anyway, it felt good to air it out, even though I was feeling the humidity by the end.  I met another woman out there who I have seen from time to time.  She stopped me during a rest interval and wondered what the heck I was doing.  I meet more people running than doing anything else, it seems.  Pretty soon I'll have more friends than Burt. . . . nah . . . but Burt maybe you can come up with a nickname for her?

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From Smooth on Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 10:51:07 from 174.23.172.155

Glad you were able To get out for some speedy intervals. Very NICE splits! I'd melt in that humidity! Yep, runners are friendly bunch! :) :) :)

From RivertonPaul on Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 13:54:31 from 67.42.27.114

I think not having to deal with the humidity will offset altitude for you.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 23:14:19 from 204.133.180.90

Yeah, great workout there in the Houston goo. That's a lot of 5k work, very impressive.

From Rye on Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 08:11:33 from 174.27.38.153

Great workout..It is good to have those kind of workouts in the bank.

From flatlander on Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 20:13:52 from 75.223.125.28

Thanks all, hope you are having a great weekend.

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11.250.000.000.0011.25

75F, 89% humidity at start, 81F, 81% at end.  Got a late start today because of work, but drove down to a trail called Terry Hershey to do something different.  I used to run it quite a bit then cut back because it is a 20-minute drive to get there.  The trail goes along Buffalo Bayou from the Sam Houston tollway west out to the Addicks Dam.  Buffalo Bayou is the main river in Houston.  The trail is busy, and it goes up and down, quite a bit, believe it or not.  We need the Army Corps of Engineers in here and get that fixed, can't have hills in Houston.  This is a taper week, and the plan was to run at long run pace, MP + 1 or 1.5 minutes per mile.  My lower legs were very sore from the speed workout yesterday, so it took a couple of miles to loosen up.  Then it was 9:00 and started to get hot.  There is actually an outdoor shower out there.  I stepped in shoes and all at about mile 9.  Didn't get any wetter, just changed salt water for fresh, but it helped cool off.  Then I remembered I had my phone in my pocket, quickly pulled it out and it still worked.  After I finished I felt like I had run 20 miles and have felt that way all day, but it was only 11.25, which I ran in 1:52:36, average pace 10:01 per mile.  Most of the miles were in the 9:30 to 9:45 range after the slow start, then crept back up toward the end.  It was a lot of work.  I tried not to hit the gas too hard but I was still plenty tired.  I hope I didn't overdo it.  In the past I have either tapered too much or not enough, it is hard to get it right.

Then we took our granddaughters to the zoo.  They just moved here from Utah and it is time to start toughening them up for the Texas summers.  They were a little shocked by the heat, but resilient and had a good time.  Lots of water, icees and food kept the heat beast at bay.  Embrace the heat.

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From Smooth on Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 22:15:47 from 174.23.172.155

Hey, we ran almost the same distance and pace today, except my temp was cooler and no humidity. You will rock UVM!

I went to the zoo with my Houston grandkids couple years ago...that sure toughened ME up! :)

LUCKY you that you UT grandkids moved closer to you. I wish mine would move here. I get to see them in couple of weeks, can't wait!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 22:36:42 from 204.133.180.90

Sounds like a good workout even if that wasn't the aim. Can't hurt you too much with the miles you're used to. We go to the Houston zoo everytime we visit my folks; they only live 2 or 3 miles away from it - always a fun time.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.080.000.000.004.08

75F, 94% humidity, wind calm, partly cloudy and trying to rain.  Great, stifling running weather this morning.  Ran 4.08 at low heart rate, flat shoes, average pace 10:46 per mile.  I'm in serious taper mode now.  My ankles and calves were complaining all weekend about the up-and-down run on Saturday.  It wasn't much for the mountain runners on this blog, but after running the whole thing in flats I was really hearing it from my body.  In fact, it is difficult on my left ankle right now to walk up stairs, which is completely new.  It didn't affect my running this morning, though, other than a little initial stiffness.  If everything holds up this week I'll run the marathon in flats, which should make me faster.  I'll have my son waiting at Vivian Park, if he can get there, with regular shoes in case I have to change shoes just to finish.

My daughter and her husband returned from their post-graduation vacation late last night.  Happy reunion going on right now with their kids.  Everything is back to normal.  Soon they will leave for home and my wife will reclaim the house for herself.  They are lovely granddaughters, but grandma has worked hard this week.  I think she would do it again in a heartbeat, though.  Kind of like a marathon.  Right at the end you say never again, then in two days you are planning the next one.

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From Rye on Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 21:39:34 from 97.121.2.91

A noisy house is a happy house. On my dads headstone he has a saying...A clean house is a sign of a life misspent. You would have to know my dad. My oldest daughter and husband are staying with us this summer.....If they had kids I would like it better.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 23:04:39 from 204.133.180.90

Ha - didn't know stifling weather could be great, I like your positivity. Have a nice taper week.

From flatlander on Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 08:14:32 from 75.228.161.128

Rye, I think I would have liked your dad. My mom is in her final stages, but that was her philosophy too. Her messy house used to irritate me, but I have more perspective now.

Thanks Joe, I'm sure you must be looking forward to your return to this weather. It's great down here.

From Huans32 on Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 08:37:55 from 98.202.0.57

Flat- Your running UVM?? Dude we have got to hook up at the race or something.

From flatlander on Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 08:43:32 from 75.228.161.128

Mark, yes! Are you running it? Maybe I will see you at the starting line. I will be dressed in my usual uniform (see picture). I am not arriving until late Friday night, so I won't make the expo or anything. Either that or once you finish, shower, have lunch, do a little blogging and catch up on some yard work, you could come back to the finish line and cheer me in.

From Huans32 on Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 08:47:55 from 98.202.0.57

LOL well I sent you a email. And my wife MrsFit is also volunteering at the finish line. So I am sure I will be there for a while.:) Very cool man. Hopefully I will see you then at the start and finish.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.081.000.000.004.08

76F, 95% humidity.  Even hotter and muggier than yesterday -- bring it on.  Ran the same route as yesterday, low heart rate miles (11:26, 10:50 and 10:56) except for one marathon-pace mile (8:35, 153 bpm).  I ran in flat shoes again, looks like that should work out OK for this weekend, as my ankles and calves feel quite a bit better today.  Totally different question whether I can hold the pace for the whole race.  I am guessing not, but I won't know until I try, and I certainly intend to try.

Supposedly we are going to have a monster hurricane season this year.  Last year surface water temperatures in the Atlantic and Gulf were below normal and prevailing winds created quite a bit of shear on top of the storm systems, so nothing every got going very well.  This year surface temperatures are above normal and there is minimal wind shear.  On the other hand, these kinds of predictions have never been all that accurate in the past.  It has only been two years since the last one, so maybe we will catch a break.  Even if a big hurricane doesn't hit this area, chances are I could end up on a chain saw crew somewhere, cutting trees off of roofs.  In the medical profession they have a noble program called Doctors without Borders.  We call these humble chain saw crews Lawyers without Skills.

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From KP on Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 09:12:45 from 65.208.22.26

do you live close to the coast?

your "lawyers without skills" thing cracked me up. you're a helpful neighbor and friend.

From Mack on Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 15:31:00 from 71.111.186.66

Have you got any oil on your beaches??You probably have mentioned this in a previous post but I have been gone for a while.

Glad to hear you are healing.

A lawyer wielding a chain saw?? SCARY! =)

From Smooth on Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 22:06:54 from 174.23.172.155

My grandkids slept in their parents' closet when that hurricane hit Houston last year. I saw lots of trees still downed in Kingwood and the surrounding towns when I visited in the Fall.

Hopefully you won't need to utilize your chain saw skill.

Nice marathon pace. Say hi when you pass me at UVM.

From baldnspicy on Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:29:34 from 72.77.107.59

Lawyers without skills is what keeps doctors in business...and insurance companies happy and employing people like me.

I hope your season isn't too bad. Combined with the oil, it won't be good. Maybe black sand beaches will become the tourist spot of 2011.

From flatlander on Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:52:44 from 76.31.26.153

KP, 50 miles. I thought we were immune from high winds this far in, but the size of the last hurricane gave it enough momentum that we had category 3 winds in our own neighborhood.

Mack, none that I have heard of, I think it is headed further east, toward KP in Alabama.

Smooth, thanks, you aren't the only one who hopes I never fire up my Stihl again.

Wes, we try to do our part. Thanks for the black sands beaches idea. I think it is time to develop a new tourist brochure.

From KP on Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:55:40 from 65.208.22.26

yes, i am actually about 6 hours from our beaches (i live 10 minutes from the TN state line), but it has hit down along the gulf coast with a vengeance from what i've heard. i had a trip planned to the florida panhandle area in 2 weeks, but have canceled it due to the oil. bummer! but, it'll save me some money.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.080.000.000.003.08

78F, humidity 94%, wind calm.  Nice peaceful, stifling morning out there.  Ran 3.08 in 33:30, 10:53 per mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.  Speed was a little faster than yesterday but not by much.  This is the most attention I have paid to a taper for any race.  I hope it works.  If not I'll try something else next time.

There were several new runners out this morning, all working hard in the heat.  I was not working hard and it was interesting to reflect how much progress I have made.  Even though I still run dog slow it has made such a difference for me.  In fact, I now get a lot of worried comments that I am losing too much weight.  I am about 170 now, down 30 pounds from two years ago.  Other than trying to be a little more careful about second servings and trying to cut back on red meat, I haven't really changed my diet, it just happens naturally with this much running.  I pulled out a photo of me running in high school to show my wife and kids.  Same height, 135 pounds.  I look perfectly healthy with my '70s locks flowing in the wind at 12 mph, and I was.  (Form wasn't too bad either, if I'm allowed to say that.)  Weight increases naturally with age, I suppose, but I think people's perception of a healthy weight is skewed by all of the overweightness out there.

UPDATE:  In response to popular demand (OK, maybe only one request, but it was from KP, so it is important), here is the photo:

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From KP on Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 09:52:26 from 65.208.22.26

you need to post the 70's pic!

From Burt on Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 11:18:07 from 206.19.214.144

I think your form is great. Uh huh.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 23:56:55 from 204.133.180.90

Is that a dirt track? I think I see why I'm slow -- it takes a long stride to go 12 mph! It is cool how you found running again after a few decades.

From flatlander on Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 07:58:07 from 76.31.26.153

KP, apologies, even though you asked for it, I know you didn't expect anything like this.

Burt, now what do you think about my form?

Joe, yeah, I hadn't thought about it but I ran every single race in high school on a dirt track. I should take another 10 seconds off my mile PR! I feel like that old guy in Napoleon Dynamite throwing the football ("we coulda took state").

From Burt on Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:07:22 from 206.19.214.144

Holy smokes! You look like you broke the world record, which way back then was probably a 5:32 miles. :)

I see you still hold your arms the same way. The only difference is you don't open your stride up as much.

From Smooth on Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:17:46 from 174.23.172.155

That hair alone would have shave seconds, let alone the dirt track. Yep, you most likely broke the world record back then.

135 lbs?!!! WOW! what a stud...the long slim speedy stud!

From KP on Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 18:52:04 from 198.200.158.140

i'm just now seeing this pic. oh my!

AWESOME!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.190.000.000.002.19

80F, 84% humidity.  Great weather for being on a taper.  Ran 2.19 miles in 22:33, average pace 10:17, flat shoes.  Ran a variety of speeds, trying to stay loose.  Felt the left hamstring pull a little bit after a couple of strideouts so I immediately backed off.  It feels OK and I don't expect any problems.  Long term, I have to find some way to get good form or otherwise adapt to faster speeds.  These little stretches and pulls every time I speed up a little bit have got to go.

With my crazy schedule this weekend, it would be nice if I could get about 8 hours of sleep tonight. 

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From KP on Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 09:11:18 from 65.208.22.26

Tylenol PM

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 23:22:52 from 204.133.180.90

Good luck, we'll be rooting for you. Looking forward to the report.

From Rye on Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 08:34:42 from 174.27.0.5

Ya, good luck with the race. Trust your body. Have a great time!!!!

From flatlander on Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 08:53:55 from 198.207.244.102

KP, I should have done it.

Thanks Joe and Rye. Yeah, I plan to have a good time no matter what happens.

From Smooth on Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 08:57:02 from 174.23.172.155

GOOD LUCK! Have a safe trip and restful day! Hope I get to see you!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.000.000.000.001.00

78F, 94% humidity.  Nice morning out there, very quiet.  Woke up very early (grrr, but hoping to get a senior-type nap this afternoon) and ran a completely slow mile around my main loop in flats, no watch or heart rate monitor.  Ate a healthy breakfast and I'm ready to go.

Well, this is it.  I don't have a good feel for what will happen, but I feel in my bones that a BQ is a long shot.  Just not enough non-injury time to build up my cruising speed enough.  But I really don't know anything.  For every plus there is a minus and vice versa.

Hope to meet a lot of folks this weekend, good luck to all of you, there should be a lot of fast times out there tomorrow.

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From Smooth on Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:00:58 from 174.23.172.155

You will do awesome! with the cooler weather (comparing to TX) and a nice downhill course and race day magic, BQ is very doable! GOOD LUCK!!! what color shirt will you be wearing? I'll be looking and rooting for you!

From KP on Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:06:28 from 65.208.22.26

good luck this weekend! you'll do great!!!

p.s. i knew that is what you lawyers did all day... take naps at your desk!

From flatlander on Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:06:51 from 76.31.26.153

Smooth, thanks. I'll be dressed just like my picture but hopefully moving a little faster! (The current picture, not that other one.) Hope to see you there and good luck with your own race. I know you are due for a breakout day and this could be it with the good weather and course.

From Huans32 on Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:07:26 from 138.64.8.52

Your going to do awesome. Keep your phone with you so we can hook up. Come on BQ!!!!

From baldnspicy on Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:14:43 from 72.77.107.59

Good luck!

Race: Utah Valley Marathon (26.22 Miles) 04:04:12, Place in age division: 20
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.0026.220.000.0026.22

This was an interesting day.  No BQ but I thought that might be the case.  Bottom line, I got a nine and a half minute PR, not what I hoped but not a bad day at the office.

As planned, I got on an airplane late last night and managed to snag an exit row seat, the one with no seat in front -- redneck first class -- spent the whole flight exercising my legs.  I can vouch for the storm system we experienced today.  It rocked the plane pretty good, more than I have experienced in a while, but once we got under the clouds the landing at SLC was pretty routine.  Some days it seems unnatural to bounce around in a pressurized aluminum tube 5 miles above the ground at a high rate of speed, with a union guy driving.

We arrived so early that I ended up waiting for my ride, precious sleep minutes slipping away.  I needn’t have worried since I didn’t sleep that well anyway.  Got to bed at 1:00 this morning and woke up, on my own, at 3:00.  The joys of senior status.  Went out to take a walk to loosen up.  The Y was glistening in the rain, peeking out between rain clouds and reflecting the city lights, not sure if anybody else saw that.  Then I met up with my sister (she used to be a blogger here) at the bus stop and we got on a 4:15 bus to the starting line.  Big mistake.  The bus got lost (let’s see, where has this happened before, oh yeah, Ogden 2009).  When it finally pulled up there were about 50 PoPs by the unloading zone that didn’t have unreasonable lines, but it was 20 minutes to race time and we got directed to the starting line, where there were “more PoP with no waiting”.  Wrong.  There were about 10 PoPs for sure, but each one had a substantial line that stretched into the starting corral. We shrugged and waited, then it got interesting.  About 30 minutes after the race started we were still in line, when they announced that they were pulling up the starting mat, apparently to let some traffic through, but would be putting it back down in 5 minutes.  No problem.  Then not too long after they put it back down they announced they were taking it back up for good in 30 seconds and if you wanted a time you had to cross the mat.  I had just emerged after attending to my chores and didn’t have my warmups off.  Plus my drop bag was tied shut and I couldn’t get it open because of cold fingers from the rain that had started falling.  I had no choice but to cross the mat before finishing my preparations.  The way I figure it, the running gods owe me 2:02.  I take Visa and American Express.

So off we went.  My sister decided to run with me.  My goal was 3:45, and she said if I broke 4 hours she would happily take the PR that gave her.  She has been having health problems that affect her running and seemed happy to stick with the old guy.  I ended up losing her early on at a water stop and worried about her the rest of the race, but she ended up finishing only a couple of minutes behind me and is fine.

Goal pace was 8:37 per mile.  I had earlier decided no matter what happened I would stick with it through the half then reevaluate whether I could carry it through.  It was basically a long shot strategy.  Splits were as follows (Garmin measuring a little short today):

Mile 1:  10:39 (no heart rate reading), this one meant I was 2:02 in the hole right off the bat, but the effect was probably more because the early steep downhill splits were all faster than goal pace.

Miles 2 through 6:  8:20 (173), 8:15 (163), 8:28 (168), 8:31 (166), 8:29 (168).  Right here it started raining in earnest, but I didn’t mind, except that I lost my sister in here.  My socks got a little soggy but they are good socks and I never had blister issues.  I wore my flats and they felt fast in these early miles.  Right here I got to goal pace plus 55 cumulative seconds and was optimistic I might be able to beat the running gods if I didn’t get too greedy too soon.

Miles 7 and 8:  9:06 (173), 9:10 (173), I had been warned, but these three hills along the reservoir were as difficult as anything at St. George.  I think the average elevation over the length of that course is almost 2,000 feet lower than UVM.  I decided that the prudent thing to do was keep my heart rate going up the hills at no more than 175.  It got up to 178 at one point but generally I was disciplined and calmly ate the extra seconds in a very mature manner.

Miles 9 through 13:  8:10 (168), 8:25 (170), 8:52 (173), 8:22 (168), 8:36 (168), these intermediate miles to the half marathon point went pretty well, despite another hill or two thrown in.  My son planned to meet me at Vivian Park with my regular shoes in case the flats were bothering me.  I didn’t find him there, but all of a sudden a car coming down the road from behind honked at me and it was him.  The cars behind him didn’t like this scenario and laid on their horns.  He pulled over into a median, only to have me tell him I had decided not to change shoes.  I was generally maintaining pace at a reasonable heart rate and I thought the flat shoes were still helping me.  Then he received a visit from an officer, which turned out to be friendly but bottom line was “don’t park here”.  So he went on his way and I did the same.  But he showed up several spots on the course, took me to the bus stop this morning and did the airport thing, so I much appreciate my son this weekend.

Miles 14 through 18:  8:45 (167), 8:54 (173), 8:24 (164), 8:36 (158), 8:43 (156), still was within two minutes of goal pace and more importantly my heart rate was behaving very nicely.  I have run 10K at a 175 heart rate and I thought if I could be under that at 20 miles I would have a chance.  This turned out to be wrong.

Miles 19 through 21:  9:05 (158), 9:16 (161), 9:15 (155),  My heart rate was never a problem but my stomach and legs, old friends, decided to make an appearance at this inopportune point.  I started to cramp up badly in my stomach and had to break stride repeatedly to avoid getting cramps in my legs, whom you will recall I have named Charley and Horse.  Haven’t yet thought of a good name for my stomach, taking suggestions.  (Just talked to Huans32, who has some great ideas from the tri side of things about how to manage leg cramps and stomach issues, great talking to him, he is very helpful and knows a lot.)  At this point I knew a BQ was not going to happen and it was just the same old death march to the finish line.  I thought about how I could make the best of the situation and decided to try to run at an uncomfortable but sustainable pace for the duration.  At about mile 20 I was very happy to see my brother who lives in Orem and is recovering from a hip injury but will be running marathons by this fall, faster than me.  It was a pleasant surprise and gave me some good mental energy.

Miles 22 through 24:  9:58 (158), 10:48 (153), 10:51 (148), starting to fade but sticking to my plan.  These were difficult miles, but somewhere in here someone yelled my name.  It must have been a blogger whom I haven’t met; whoever you were, thank you very much for the shoutout, it was a big boost, and please excuse me for not stopping to chat.  Believe me, I would have loved nothing more than stopping for a nice chat. 

Miles 25 through 26.22  11:05 (147), 12:48 (140), 11:30 pace on last 0.22.  The overpass at 900 South, at mile 25.5, is cruel beyond measure.  Somebody needs to pay for this one.  I take Visa and American Express.  I walked up it and my split for mile 26 shows it.  All race long I saw a log of guys in Pleasant Grove VFD shirts.  They seemed a happy bunch.  They were running a very respectable pace and I was impressed by the high level of participation.  But at the top of the overpass I saw a lone fireman stopped at the rail and gazing over the side.  I knew a suicide was not in the cards, since runners at this point of the marathon are such a happy lot.  Suddenly he emptied his stomach on the railroad tracks in a very impressive fashion (orange Gatorade if I am not mistaken), then quickly started running again before repeating the procedure.  He got better results the first time.  I didn’t know whether to laugh or join him at the rail.

Official time from the friendly guy in the trailer:  4:04:12.  It felt great when they announced my name at the finish, even though I quickly discovered they were announcing everybody's name!  I get cranky when somebody says that everybody is a winner, because we all do a lot of dumb things that should not be confused with winning strategies.  But running a marathon cleanses body, mind and soul; so even to a cranky guy like me, today everybody was a winner and deserved to have their name announced, from the fastest Kenyan to those six-hour guys I saw as we drove away long after I finished -- I was once a member of their club and I worked just as hard on that day.

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From Kelli on Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 20:23:14 from 71.219.93.114

LOVED the report, especially that last paragraph! It is so true, a marathon is a tough thing and finishing the best you can for the day is all anyone can ask! Congrats on the PR!!

From derhammer on Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 20:41:42 from 75.54.87.211

Congrats on the PR. Anytime you can PR on a marathon is a good day. Keep up the good work and you will get the BQ!

From kccowart on Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 20:48:44 from 71.195.242.175

Fantastic job. Our bus got lost, too, by the way, but I caught it at 3:45. Lucky, I guess. I agree with you about those hills, especially that nice little speed bump at mile 25.5. Seriously, who decided that was a good idea. And, no, they didn't call everybody's name. At least they didn't call mine. In fact, my name wasn't even on the race results sheet. We had to talk to a half-dozen people to get that worked out since I ran a PR today, too of 3:12. No way was I going home without physical proof of that effort! Congrats, again and keep it up. See you in Boston sometime!

From crockett on Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 21:07:23 from 71.36.73.105

Way to go. I couldn't have stood the stress of the mats going up and down. Wow. That would have killed my race. They announced my name too. For some reason people laugh when my name gets announced. I've never been able to figure that out. Nice good solid race. Your improvement has been impressive.

From Burt on Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 01:28:08 from 68.225.214.248

Love your reports Flat. Tell lightitup I said hi.

From lightitup on Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 13:37:57 from 166.205.8.71

How did you beat me by a couple minutes if your time was 4:04 and mine was 4:05:02....sounds like Brother Smack to me

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 19:21:51 from 184.79.24.255

Great race Flat, I've been looking forward to reading about it and you did not disappoint! Downhill or not, UVM sounds like a really tough course after reading a few reports about it. A 4:04 (really, 4:02) is fantastic for the pre-race hijinks you went through. This fall you'll get that BQ. Well done.

From flatlander on Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 20:20:35 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks Kelli, I appreciate you taking the time to read it. I can't believe the miles you have put in this year. Triple digits for the week, and good strong miles at that. I enjoy your blog.

derhammer, hi, nice to hear from another Texan. We can complain together about the heat this summer, though I notice it hasn't slowed you down at all.

kc, thanks for commenting, and congratulations on your own super race! You are a very talented runner. It would have been an honor to be the poor guy in the white shirt you edged out at the finish, but alas I didn't show up until much later.

Davey, thanks, and congratulations on your very impressive half. By the way, I ran into another guy in the finish area who borrowed our phone and said he ran Rocky Raccoon this year. Says his name is James Taylor and he knows you. So the degree of separation is now two. Someday I'll get to actually meet you.

Burt, thanks man, I had a good time, didn't get to meet near enough bloggers because of all the madness at the start and finish. I was hoping to start my own little list, not in the same league as yours, of course.

E, let the smack begin! Seriously, I thought I was just repeating what you told me, sorry for the misinformation.

Joe, thanks, it was a ton of fun. I thought I would be disappointed with a time like that, but I am fine with it and glad I went. Even though I am stiff as a board today (getting through airports this morning was interesting), it is clear I have no injuries despite running in flats, downhill, and pretty fast at times. So I think it was a successful day, my first marathon with no apparent injuries.

From lightitup on Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 21:52:53 from 67.185.20.107

Never mind....you beat me by a long ways. Apparently your gun time was 4:20, mine was 4:35. And yes, I found me. I'm in the Athena section. I placed sixth overall there. As for me, I am NOT impressed....liked my other result much better.

From KP on Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:10:35 from 65.208.22.26

way to go flat! great report. thanks for sharing! congrats on your PR!

From Smooth on Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 00:02:22 from 174.23.236.38

Hey Flat ~ Nice report and great race! That timing mat mess at the start would have messed with my head. GOOD JOB! Sorry about Charlie & Horse...they're my tormenting demons too. I honestly can say I know how you feel. WAY to tough out the last few miles. Yes, you are a winner! :) Wish I could have met you in person...next time!

From flatlander on Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 07:45:36 from 76.31.26.153

E, oh well, I was gearing up for some good smack.

KP, thanks, I enjoy your entertaining blog entries.

Smooth, I actually carried some pickles with me! I couldn't eat them much though because of my stomach issues. I think they helped a little. Looks like our chip times were pretty similar (congratulations again, by the way) but my gun time was a lot slower than yours because of the problems with my start, so the guy ahead of you must have been some other dude. I hate it when people try to copy my outfit. You should come run the Kingwood Marathon this year. It is small and I would for sure meet you then.

From vinh on Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 18:17:31 from 24.211.101.133

Great job flatlander! Congrats!

From baldnspicy on Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:55:37 from 72.77.107.59

Awesome report, Flat. I'm glad I'm not the only one who writes a long report. Let's see, you wrote about as long a report for 26.2 miles as I wrote for 3.1. My first marathon report is gonna be more like a legal document. :-)

PRs are awesome and you did great! Congrats on a strong run and a fun report!

From jasro on Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 18:56:08 from 198.50.4.4

Sorry I haven't had a chance to check in before now. Great race report and great race. Can you believe you have shaved an HOUR off your time since October? That is remarkable.

Very good effort.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

No running today.  Heading to NYC on vacation with the family in the morning, trying to decide whether to run while I am there.  I probably will, just because of Central Park, but not very much.  I think I will follow the traditional advice and take a week off for the most part.  In the past I have gotten away with starting back at it pretty quickly,.  I came out of this marathon in good shape but very sore and I am guessing things could go south in a hurry if I start back too quickly.  Somebody's blog today says the UVM course has 1000' of elevation gain in it.  The course profile doesn't hint at that, but it explains a lot about how things went on Saturday -- I felt OK about my time before I knew that, and I am even more OK with it now.  The course is apparently tougher than Ogden, which absolutely killed me a year ago.  I almost registered for ING Hartford today.  It is the Saturday after St. George (which I missed), but still timed well to allow Boston registration before it fills up, assuming I qualify.  Plus it is my kind of race, flat and sea level.  Doesn't look like it is filling up just yet so I will wait a little bit but I think that is going to be my fall race.

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From KP on Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 09:21:54 from 65.208.22.26

have a wonderful vacation! i love NYC. last time i was there, i wasn't a "runner" yet. i definitely want to go back just so i can log a few miles in central park. it is my favorite part of the city {other than all the cheap purses in chinatown ;)}

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:29:44 from 131.59.200.80

Flat and sea level sounds pretty good after mountainous and elevated doesn't it? Have fun on your vacation, hope it's restful.

From Mack on Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 13:44:52 from 71.111.186.66

Have fun in NYC. Running in central park would be cool!!

From Rye on Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 16:40:40 from 174.27.0.5

Enjoy the vacation. A few days off will do you well. You will come back with a strong healed body ready for additional training.

From flatlander on Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:52:18 from 75.236.167.244

KP, you should definitely run the park. It is probably the best running venue I have found so far. We went to Chinatown last night for a meal, bought t-shirts ($2 apiece) but no purses.

Thanks Joe, I ran this morning, couldn't sit it out all week long I guess.

Mack and Rye, I took a few days off but went back out this morning and had a great run. Thanks for checking in.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

Beautiful morning today in NYC, left the hotel at about 6:30 and ran up to Central Park, around inside (just gorgeous) and back in about 80 minutes.  I didn't have a working Garmin until 20-25 minutes in, so not sure of the exact distance, but I was doing mid to low 9s once I started to get a reading, so I am calling it 8 miles.  I ran in flats, average heart rate about 150.  First miles since the marathon.  I had a little bit of hip pain to start my new training cycle, I think it might have resulted from walking so much yesterday.  We must have walked 5 miles and I am not used to that.  Believe it or not, it is a different kind of fitness than running.  None of my old aches and pains, though, it appears that my ankle/knee/groin issues are ancient history.

I can't believe I lived here for three years and never ran in Central Park.  Maybe because I wasn't a runner then?   Made me think of a law school classmate who was spotted frequently running in Riverside Park while smoking a cigarette and carrying a Miller Lite for hydration.  He was one of the higher performers in our class, so I'm sure he had a point, just that none of us knew what it was.  I'm guessing he would claim he was substituting nicotine for caffeine and alcohol for ibuprofen.  There is a runner out there for every theory.

There is a beautiful reservoir at the top of the park that has a crushed granite jogging path around it.  It must have rained last night because the path was covered with puddles to the point you couldn't get through without tiptoe-ing, which all the locals were doing.  But not me.  I trucked right through and splashed as many old ladies, poodles and investment bankers as I could find.  My daughter was embarrassed when I bragged about it, which only made me even happier about this run.

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From KP on Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:55:48 from 65.208.22.26

ha! first, i love that you splashed right through the middle of the puddles. i do the same exact thing! secondly, i am liking your law school buddies thinking... interesting. well, minus the cigarette; that is just gross :) third, keep on embarrassing your daughter!

hope you're having a fantastic vacation! it looks like you're recovering nicely from the marathon.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 23:37:42 from 69.153.187.169

Way to show those fussy yank's how to run. Sounds like a nice vacation thus far.

From flatlander on Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:18:24 from 75.236.220.55

Thanks KP, very happy about my recovery so far, none of my old injuries are around any more.

Joe, I was looking for puddles again this morning but they are all gone now. Some other time I guess.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

65F, 74% humidity, wind S 5 mph.  Gorgeous morning again in NYC, going home this afternoon.  The Garmin wouldn't pull in a satellite reading.  It asked me if I was inside and I accidentally pushed yes, whereupon it gave up.  But I ran 1:27:47 at low heart rate, which is around 11 minutes per mile in Houston, so I am calling it 8 miles again, flat shoes.  A little bit of a thorn in paradise, my left hip is still hurting, but only when I run, about level 4 I would say, maybe a little less.  I think it is related to all the hills I have been running lately, it didn't show up until my first recovery run after the marathon.  Not sure if it will amount to anything, probably not.

Last night we had some pretty good Thai food and I ordered it hot.  So this morning I started out toward Central Park and about 45 minutes in I found myself earnestly searching for facilities.  When I finally found them they were padlocked shut.  Not sure why they bother to have them, but there are many mysteries when it comes to New York City government.  Now they have an environmental disaster on their hands and I have crossed one carbo loading alternative off my list.

We have had a good time here in the big city, capped it off with a harbor cruise last night.  Here are some photos my youngest daughter took.  They are good quality for a cell phone, but as a computer klutz I can't get all the pixels migrated over to the blog, but you get the idea I think.

Some cliches never get old.  Liberty and justice for all, right in front of the World Trade Center site.  For many years, 50,000 people per day came through nearby Ellis Island, screening success rate 98%.  A group of French folks were just in front of us, happily clicking away in a very un-Frenchlike manner, because of course this statue was a gift from them.

A new building is heading to the sky just to the north of the World Trade Center site, taller than the old.  For now it is about 30 stories tall and behind the black building just over the woman's head.  The site itself will be turned into a memorial.  Scheduled completion in 2-1/2 years.

Happy weekend to all.

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From Huans32 on Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:50:04 from 98.202.0.57

Wow 8 mile. Great job man and in NYC?!?! That is sweet man. Have a great trip.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 15:15:51 from 69.153.187.169

I haven't been to NYC since maybe 2002, 2003; glad to hear they're finally building some kind of memorial. Hope the hip quiets down for you. Safe travels back home...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.020.000.000.008.02

74F, 97% humidity, wind SW 2 mph, clear.  Beautiful morning back in Texas.  I ran 8.02 miles in 1:13:46, average pace 9:12, flat shoes.  Hip issues at a 3 or 4.  I ran the first couple of miles at lower heart rate then gradually sped up until I got to the 165-170 bpm range.  If I had run further I would have been there anyway running 10+ minutes per mile in the humid heat.  I have changed my mind about altitude.  I now think heat is worse, because I ran slower today compared to UVM pace at similar heart rates and the same shoes.  Some of it might be recovery issues, but it is now 9 days since the marathon so I don't think that played a major role.  Splits were 10:23 (127), 9:25 (141), 9:21 (146), 9:12 (152), 8:51 (160), 8:46 (166), 8:44 (170), 8:53 (172).  Comparatively, miles 2-6 in the marathon were 8:20 (173), 8:15 (163), 8:28 (168), 8:31 (166), 8:29 (168), and miles 9-13 were 8:10 (168), 8:25 (170), 8:52 (173), 8:22 (168), 8:36 (168).  These splits included some of the major downhill miles at UVM before I started to tire significantly, so it appears, for me at least, that altitude, low temperature and downhill (UVM conditions) are about 20-30 seconds per mile faster than sea level, heat and flat (today's conditions). 

My guess is that no altitude, low temperature and flat (fall marathon at sea level) would be considerably faster than a race like UVM.  If that is true, then it means heat is a huge factor (turning the fastest conditions into the slowest) and downhill a smaller factor.  The other thing I learned is that I have a lot of work to do in the 160-175 range, just below where my legs start to get tired.  There may be some easy pickings there if my legs can sustain those speeds enough to get in some serious miles.

I realized that this is a nerdy entry, but I am posting it anyway because I need to keep the info somewhere!

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From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 19:24:14 from 184.79.24.255

Love the data. What kind of hip pain? Also, have you thought about the Houston marathon lottery? Cool, flat, sea level...

From baldnspicy on Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 23:52:04 from 72.77.124.65

I enjoyed the nerdy part, Flat. I've been thinking some about this too since it's been getting hot here in the 'burgh. Looks like the humidity is hitting you hard as well! I would have thought the higher altitude would have been harder on you since your body is used to sea level. I'm headed out to Snowbird, UT in a couple of weeks for vacation with the family. I will be running, and it looks like Snowbird is about 8,000 feet, so I'll be interested to see how that altitude affects me since Pittsburgh is about 1,000 feet.

From derhammer on Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:14:57 from 192.156.110.31

I would agree heat is worse, certainly when humidity is thrown in as your body cannot cool itself through evaporation. Your blood is now flowing to the skin to keep you cool instead of to the muscles where you need it most.

You need to find an excuse to come up to Austin and go for a run with us.

From Mack on Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:51:08 from 71.111.186.66

About half way through I was thinking "lawyerly" but "nerdy" works too. =) Still great data to get down in writing as it can be real valuable to refer back to later.

From KP on Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:54:34 from 65.208.22.25

he puts so much of a spin on it that you have no clue what he is talking about - "lawyerly"

From flatlander on Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 15:38:30 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, the hip isn't too bad, it feels just like ITB pain I had in my knees much of last year. If that is the case, it will go away on its own if I treat it right. I'm doing the Texas Marathon again on January 1, so I won't be messing with the lottery.

Wes, let me know how you do at 8,000', that is pretty high. I was never over 6,000' running the marathon.

derhammer, would love to come up and run with you guys. I'll keep an eye on your postings and maybe make it up there some Saturday morning this summer. Y'all might be too fast for me though, in which case I'll stand by the water cooler and pass out drinks.

Mack, they say lawyers go to law school because they can't do math, so I think this one fits in the nerd category.

KP, apologies, I re-read it just now and it is pretty much over the top.

From lightitup on Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 23:52:07 from 209.169.37.178

I am at the North Rim, elev 8862. We did a four mike hike today. It killed everyone but me. I guess marathin training is good for something, even at altitude. However I left my jacket down the trail, so I ran back to get it. THAT was hard

From baldnspicy on Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:54:01 from 72.77.109.243

Thanks Light. I think I know what I'm getting into now! I'll be wearing my RoadID for sure since I'll probably end up getting a cool ride in the ambulance the first day. ha ha

From flatlander on Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 23:11:02 from 76.31.26.153

E, how far down did you run for your jacket. Grand Canyon is considered a destination trail for ultra runners, maybe this is your future.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

81F, 80% humidity.  Ran 8 miles slow this morning in flat shoes.  The Garmin wouldn't stay on, I think it was a battery thing but the battery warning never flashed.  So I just ran slow and checked my heartbeat every 20 minutes or so.  Despite that, it crept up to 142 by the end, which doesn't really qualify as low heart rate, but it is almost impossible to keep it down in this heat.  Overall I ran about an 11-minute pace.  Hip had some issues halfway through but I was able to control it by concentrating on form.  I think I will try regular shoes tomorrow and see if they make a difference.  I am doing so well with my feet and ankles that I hate to go back, but maybe a day or two will help.  The whole object of the flat shoes is to eventually arrive at a point where I have less injury, and I can feel myself headed in that direction.  For now at least I feel much better than I have felt in a while.

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From baldnspicy on Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 07:12:36 from 72.77.109.243

The humidity is killing me too. It can be 75F here which is a nice temp, but when it's 80+% humidity, it's just plain hot and sticky. If I can get out early enough, it helps, but today was the first day that it really didn't cool down much at night and the humidity stayed high. Looks like the AC is on 24/7 from here out. Sigh.

So what shoes are you running in? I've thought of switching to a flatter shoe, but I'm not sure if it would be a good idea yet or not. No VFF for me, but I've thought of going a little flatter. Any suggestions?

From Rye on Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 13:39:35 from 174.27.108.29

You are a animal....Temps and humidity high... I would wimp out....Nice job!

From Smooth on Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 22:56:20 from 174.23.236.38

8 miles in 80F & 80% humidity. You're gr8!

From flatlander on Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 23:18:31 from 76.31.26.153

Wes, I don't wear VFFs, don't know anything about them, but my kids would never let me run in anything with toes in it. I wear a brand called Jinga, which is a Brazilian company. Lots of cool colors and super light. I will tell you though, it is very different wearing shoes without heels. For me the jury is still out, I am hoping it is a long-term help for me.

Rye, thanks, it doesn't really bother me that much unless I run for more than 2 hours, I'm just slower which is frustrating because it is hard to measure progress.

Smooth, thanks, can't believe I didn't notice that, don't know about the "gr8" part though! Two years ago my dad turned 80 on 08-08-08, so I guess we have 8s in our blood. He never made the news though.

From Smooth on Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 23:22:40 from 174.23.236.38

8 means fast and prosperous in Chinese! :)

That's so cool about your dad's 80th b'day!

From baldnspicy on Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 00:17:39 from 72.77.112.14

I'll have to check them out and keep tabs on how you do in them! Thanks for the info!

From flatlander on Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:18:16 from 198.207.244.102

Smooth, I'll take either fast or prosperous!

Bald, good luck whatever you decide.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

Didn't run yesterday morning because of work pressures, thought I might run last night but decided late that my hip needed a day off anyway.

The weather was 79F, 83% humidity at start, calm.  Started out as a beautiful morning, don't really mind the moist air, at least for the first few miles.  I ran 10 very easy miles at low heart rate, regular shoes.  The Garmin is still acting up, it kept turning off, even though I charged it two days ago.  I think it is leaking charge even turned off, so I'll leave it on the charger and see if it works better tomorrow.  If not, time for a new one.  I wish they were more reliable, as I am not aware of any good substitutes.  For what I paid for that thing it should last more than a year and a half.

Oh yes, the run.  Early miles, to the extent I could get momentary readings when I turned the Garmin back on, were about 11:00 pace, drifting gradually up to 12:30 at the end, a slower pace and a wider drift than I get on cooler days.  Part of that is the shoes, part the heat, part "operator error".  The air at the beginning was completely calm and "sweating", just tiny drops falling even though there were no low clouds.  Finally some clouds came in and I finished in a downpour with some wind, which felt considerably better, although I am sure my wife won't be happy when she sees the wet kitchen floor I left at the house this morning.  Tried to dry it off but there are still some incriminating spots I am afraid.  Hopefully I'll still be a runner tomorrow.

I wanted to test out my hip wearing regular shoes, which seemed to work pretty well.  My hip didn't even make an appearance until mile 3, and behaved pretty well after that.  I really think the irritation is from quite a bit of hill work the last month.  I ran a hilly trail the week before the marathon, then the marathon, then last week in Central Park.  It doesn't take a lot, just a little bit of up and down is enough to trigger it.  Now that I am flat again I think it will gradually improve.  I'll probably do flat shoes tomorrow and see if everything still holds together as well as it did today.  Flat roads, flat shoes, flat chest, I think I see a pattern here.

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From KP on Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:28:15 from 131.163.254.64

i love running in the rain during the hot summer! it really helps to keep you cool.

From Burt on Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:31:29 from 206.19.214.144

Try some estrogen pills.

From Mack on Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:55:26 from 71.111.186.66

Nice job flat. Skip the estrogen pills and start bench pressing!

From flatlander on Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:23:41 from 198.207.244.102

KP, a kindred soul! I'll take rain any day. It doesn't make my clothes any heavier, just washes them.

Burt and Mack, after careful consideration and consultation with my family, I have decided to take Mack's suggestion. No offense Burt, but you can't find happiness in a pill.

From Burt on Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:41:07 from 206.19.214.144

Is there anything wrong with temporary bliss?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.600.000.000.0010.60

75F, 97% humidity, calm and clear.  The storms blew out last night, leaving the air pretty fresh and nice, but very warm.  I ran 10.6 in about 1:45:00, flat shoes.  No hip issues of any note, so feeling pretty good about this run.  My Garmin stayed on for three miles, which I ran at low heart rate, then it switched off and stayed completely dead.  Getting out the manual today to see if I can figure out anything.  Possibly a battery issue but I doubt it.  I think the bottom line is it went kaput, to use a technical term.

After my watch went dark I kept the same speed for a while, until about mile six.  Then a runner passed me with her husband riding alongside on a bicycle.  I let her go for awhile but she wasn't running all that much faster and I had been toying with speeding up anyway because my hip was feeling fine.  So I kicked it in to about a 10K pace with about 5K to go, after she was quite a ways ahead.  At least I think that was my speed, that was certainly the effort level.  I am guessing low 8s or high 7s but I am not sure.  The lady made a turn and I never saw her again.  But I worked very hard without water and held the pace all the way to the end.  I reached pretty close to my limit on this run, to the point I wasn't hungry afterward.  I didn't throw up, but I definitely didn't want to risk runing any harder in the heat.

If my hip stays OK today I'll probably go long in the morning, it is time.

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From SlowJoe on Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 22:05:09 from 184.79.24.255

Sounds like a nice little tempo run, I like it! I always instinctively speed up when someone passes me, even if I'm supposed to be recovering.

Hope the Garmin issues clear up. Those suckers are expensive, yet almost qualify as required equipment for anyone whose run with them at least once!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.000.000.000.0016.00

74F, 97% humidity at start, 80F, 85% at end, wind calm.  A very nice morning with a couple of hours of full moon before daylight.  Just at moonset I glanced over at the red setting moon and noticed it wasn't full anymore.  What the heck?  I knew a full moon doesn't change into a half moon  just like that, it takes a week, and half moons don't set at sunrise, they set at midnight or noon, depending on whether they are waxing or waning.  I knew it was either the apocalypse or I was seeing a lunar eclipse (earth's shadow on the moon), which is considerably more rare, for some reason, than a solar eclipse (moon blocking the sun), and to have it right at moonset with an enlarged red moon in the sky must be rare indeed.  So quite a bonus by getting up early this morning.

And early it was.  Out the door at 4:30 intending to run 20 miles, but only made 16.  I got a big blister on my left foot just at the base of the big toe.  In all my running I have never gotten a blister, a hot spot once in a while but this is the first one.  I am chalking it up to high sweat levels and minimal shoes.  Both hips were yelling at me as well, so I called it a day.  They feel OK now.  I ran my miles mostly in the 9:45 range, must say I was surprised at how difficult that was.  I considered pushing through but decided it is still too soon after the marathon, live to fight another day.  Would have done better in regular shoes today undoubtedly.

Here is a photo taken by a guy in Richmond, Texas, which is southwest Houston.  This is how it looked here.  I think the further west the more of the eclipse you got to see.

Happy weekend, all.

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From Smooth on Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 13:18:02 from 174.23.236.38

That moon eclipse is so awesome! What a nice bonus to get up and run so early. Sorry about the blister. But I think it's a blessing in disguise, 20 miles 2 weeks after UVM seems alot to me! You are doing GREAT! Have a nice weekend!

From Stephen on Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 13:42:49 from 71.195.218.176

I saw the same moon this morning while I was running! But I didn't think too much about it. It was smaller than your picture shows. I kind of thought it was supposed to be bigger

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 08:38:52 from 184.79.24.255

Rats, I didn't run on Saturday. Anyway, nice long run - for me, the earlier I get up it seems like the more effort it takes to run a given pace.

From RivertonPaul on Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 17:30:25 from 97.117.120.35

Nice big run. Glad your moon experience wasn't referring to someone's butt.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.200.000.000.006.20

76F, 94% humidity, clear and calm.  Beautiful morning for running.  About Saturday afternoon, 6 or 7 hours after my long run, my right foot, top outside, became painful and difficult to walk on.  That continued all the way through last night at bedtime.  I was praying pretty hard for some relief, I really didn't want to take on another injury.  I think it happened from changing my stride due to the blister I got on the same foot.  I was afraid of a stress fracture, though I have never had one so far as I know.  It was still sore this morning, but I strapped on regular shoes and after a hundred yards it was gone for good.  I don't usually mix running and spiritual matters (other than occasionally shaking my fist at the running gods), because running is a sport for all kinds of people, religious, agnostic, indifferent and anti.  But this one was a blessing, I am sure of it, and I am grateful.  My left hip made an appearance at mile 3.5, but I know that one, I just stretched out and slowed down my stride, tried to maintain proper form, and it went away.  Not something to ignore, but controllable.

So I ran about 6.2 miles in 59 minutes, average pace about 9:30, including some high 10s and high 8s, as best I can tell.  The Garmin is still kaput.  I thought I had it nailed as a moisture issue, but it isn't that, something else.  I'll probably need to get a new one.  It is kind of fun to run a few days without it, but long term I need that machine. 

Looking forward to a good running week.

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From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 23:43:18 from 184.79.24.255

The running gods giveth, I see! Now if they could do something about that humidity in Houston.

From KP on Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:38:18 from 65.208.22.25

i shake my fist at the running gods too...

From Huans32 on Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:01:10 from 138.64.8.52

LOL was the issues from the rain at UVM. I lost my garmin from SGM like 2 yrs ago. It never really worked right after that. Good thing the wife has one for me to use when I need to know my splits and such. Next purchase for me will be that 315xt I think its called. Where you can use it swimming. Just need to wait for the price to come down some though.

From jasro on Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:04:21 from 198.50.4.4

'tis true ... the running gods giveth and the running gods taketh away. I'm glad it was your turn to receive.

From flatlander on Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 19:50:55 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks everybody. Mark, you may have nailed it. UVM was rainy and it hasn't worked well since then. Finally ordered a new one today.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.100.000.000.0010.10

75F, 95% humidity, wind NE 5 mph.  A pretty morning for running, clear but lightning in the clouds on the horizon.  Ran 10.1 in about 1:35, regular shoes, no Garmin, about a 9:30 pace.  My legs felt heavy but otherwise I was able to push through and finish the run.  Left hip acted up at mile 7 but I slowed down then sped back up and it was fine, like re-booting a computer.  Hip is still OK this afternoon.  I have learned that I have to wait until later in the day to assess the effects of a run.  Until then the endorphins are still hanging around, making you feel better than you really are.

Can't re-boot the Garmin though.  I finally gave up and ordered a new one today.  Got it on Amazon.com for a pretty reasonable price, less than half what I paid 18 months ago.  Love the way electronics always go down in price.  I think it should work that way for everything except my hourly rate.

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From baldnspicy on Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 07:50:47 from 167.164.3.140

Sorry about the Garmin, Flat. I typically stay just behind the "crest" of the technology wave. Once the hype is gone and the prices drop, that's when I upgrade. Wait for the next version of the iPod, then grab one of the older versions off eBay from one of the people that have to have the latest. I really liked the Garmin 405 (?) but I just couldn't see spending that kind of $ for one. I love my 305 even if it is bigger.

Glad you're feeling good and you're getting in some great miles this week. Looking good!

From KP on Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 09:33:41 from 65.208.22.25

i use the 205 which is even bigger! most everyone i run with does, even the local elites around here. the text is larger which is nice when you're running hard (or if you're blind, like me).

wanna know how long i wait for technology prices to drop? i still haven't bought a flat screen tv! i know... i'm probably the only person on earth without one.

From flatlander on Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:10:43 from 76.31.26.153

Bald, yeah, I got the 305, probably should have gone to E-bay but wasn't sure what the warranty situation would be. My firm-issued blackberry is nearly as old as the pickup I drive, so I think we are of the same mind when it comes to technology.

KP, I think the 205 is pretty similar to the 305 except for the heart rate monitor. I like being able to monitor my ticker. I can still see it, but I admit it is getting more difficult.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.100.000.000.0010.10

78F, 88% humidity, wind ESE 9 mph with gusting.  Getting ready to rain today, but a nice cloudy morning.  I ran exactly the same route as yesterday, 10.1 miles in regular shoes, 1:32, averaging about 9:07 minutes per mile, so I ran it faster.  My new Garmin will arrive Friday or Monday, as best I can tell.  Left hip issues are still there but I don't think it will bother me for too much longer, it feels like it is healing unless I do something stupid, which is entirely possible.

At about mile 5.5 I passed a familiar yard that has a dog behind a wooden fence, invisible but he always greets me aggressively.  About 30 pounds, guessing from his baritone bark.  Earlier I had tried getting a reaction out of some neighborhood ducks, but they ignored me.  I decided to give it one more try with the dog.  I gave him an animated growl in my best bass voice as I shuffled by, not loud enough for the owner to hear.  Ladies and gentlemen, the results were spectacular.  The holiday weekend is still a couple of days away, but the fireworks coming out of that yard bordered on illegal, even for Texas.  I maintained an innocent, bored look on my face and trotted on down the street.  Looks like I have a new friend.  He'll probably get a piece of my ankle someday, but it was worth it.

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From Stephen on Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 17:23:31 from 204.182.3.235

How sturdy is that wooden fence?

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 23:15:47 from 184.79.24.255

Nice! Always fun to hear about runners getting revenge on the dogs.

From jasro on Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 11:42:24 from 198.50.4.4

Ahh, the things we do to entertain ourselves while running ...

From flatlander on Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 16:30:40 from 198.207.244.102

Stephen, not sure, that is part of the fun.

Joe, I know, I so often lose these encounters.

Jason, in my case it doesn't take much, and it doesn't have to be very high-level.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.100.000.000.0010.10

76F, 94% humidity, light rain.  Air very fresh with the rain, good running weather despite the temperatures.  This rain might be related to the hurricane that came in further south last night, but not sure.  Ran slow today, getting ready for some longer miles over the weekend.  10.1 miles in 1:55, regular shoes, about 11:25 per mile, no Garmin.  We are hoping to make it to Central Texas for the holiday weekend to visit my daughter and her family.  I am thinking with the humidity a little lower the run might go better, but the temperatures might be higher.  It will be an experiment.

MFM (my favorite mutt) did not make an appearance today.  Kind of disappointing, I was hoping to develop our friendship further.  I think his owner is alarmed and decided to keep him inside when I am running.  I am a very intimidating guy.

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From Smooth on Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 15:16:59 from 174.23.191.197

I noticed how the Texans treat their mutts like babies. I saw one owner gave his little mutt a ride on a red wagon, weird! I'm sure you'll have another chance to develop your friendship with MFM! :)

Have fun visiting your daughter and her family...funny how we runners plan our vacations around our runs.

From flatlander on Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 11:49:34 from 76.31.26.153

Smooth, at least the mutts have strong genetics. (Kind of like me, ugly but healthy.) Some of the overbred fu fu dogs around here look like their bones would break if they fell off the couch. There is a reason the pure breds need a ride in a little red wagon!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.230.000.000.006.23

76F, 97% humidity, light rain.  Very nice morning out there, although it is raining heavily now.  I don't think there will be many boats on the water this weekend, although I ran by a couple of guys loading up their water toys in the rain.  Still no Garmin (maybe today?), but according to the computer I ran 6.23 miles and according to my cell phone I did it in 54.5 minutes, so about 8:45 pace, flat shoes.  Honestly, I felt like I was running faster than that, and I guess I was if you throw out the first warmup mile.  Any way you slice it though, it was not low 8s.  The good news is I felt great, and it felt like my form is improving, my feet felt springy in the flat shoes, if that makes sense.  Didn't want to push it too hard anyway, hoping for a long run tomorrow out in Temple, where we are visiting my daughter for the holiday weekend.

In preparation for our visit, I have been requested to bring fireworks.  Apparently Temple is not part of the unregulated paradise that the rest of Texas is, only certain types of kiddie poppers are available there.  So I will be running the big stuff, arriving after sunset.  In addition, they want me to bring something called "red rubber mulch", which is unavailable in Temple but supposedly can be purchased at any Home Depot in Houston.  So I am gearing up mentally to walk in and ask for it with a straight face, but I am pretty sure that one is a hoax.

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From KP on Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 11:50:15 from 65.208.22.25

i bet the rain felt great on your run this morning. it is so darn hot and humid out!

have a great 4th of july, flat!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 23:33:47 from 184.79.24.255

They have a playground my girls go to sometimes that uses red rubber mulch on the ground. It exists!

From Burt on Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 02:04:19 from 68.225.214.248

Have a safe and happy holiday.

From Rye on Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 20:40:18 from 97.121.11.186

Way to brave the humidity and heat. Enjoy all the family and fireworks this weekend.

From flatlander on Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 01:23:09 from 76.31.26.153

KP, thanks, it has been a great holiday weekend so far. Hope yours is going well.

Joe, well I walked in and asked for red rubber mulch. She didn't bat an eye, said she thought they only had brown. But turned out they had red, so all is well. Still not sure I like the idea though, kind of like spraying your cement green instead of putting in grass.

Thanks Burt and Rye, hope your weekend is going well too.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
20.200.000.000.0020.20

81F, 78% humidity, 87 heat index, wind ESE 12 mph.  This was a goodbye run instead of a hello run, meaning I put Mr. Sun to bed instead of getting him out of bed.  I woke up this morning at my usual time, 5:30, but I was sleeping on an air mattress in Temple, Texas, at my daughter's house.  The rain was coming down in sheets, there were no street lights, I had no Garmin and no map and I had stayed up past midnight, so I promised myself I would run tonight and rolled over and slept until 9:00.  This caused a number of comments since I brag too often about getting up early.

So after driving back to Houston it was time to keep my promise.  It has been raining so much that it wasn't as hot as it could have been, but still hotter than morning runs.  The light was somewhat the same as well, to the extent I blurted out a hearty "good morning" to one friendly but startled couple innocently walking their dog.  Would have been good if it was in another neighborhood, but it was my own.  I'm sure that one will get around.

The first couple of miles were painful with a shin splint that appeared out of nowhere, but no way was I going to post a 2 after missing 20 last Saturday.  So I ran through it and it disappeared.  Ended up doing all 20 in 3:48, which comes out to about a 10:50 pace.  Doesn't sound very fast but it was difficult.  Not quite as bad as I felt after the marathon three weeks ago which I ran about 1:40 per mile faster, but it was in the neighborhood.  The heat is brutal but I have to keep trying or I will lose 6 months.

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From lightitup on Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 01:34:04 from 67.185.20.107

Nice! Great job. I just got home too, from two weeks of vacation and a total of 4 miles of running and way too much eating. I have Monday through Wednesday to convince my body I'm still a runner before Thursday's surgery.

From Burt on Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 02:51:57 from 68.225.214.248

This is awkward. I already told you to have a safe and happy 4th of July weekend, and now I'm back. Hummm...I don't know what to say now...

Nice job with the 20. That's a lot of running.

Hi Lightitup! What surgery are you having? Hope it goes well.

From Smooth on Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 20:11:01 from 174.23.191.197

WOW! That's a L-O-N-G run at the end of a holiday weekend visiting with your daughter and family. WAY to power thru the shin splint. Hope you're having a restful Sunday.

From lightitup on Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 21:12:42 from 67.185.20.107

Burt, left inguinal hernia repair, not laparoscopic. Almost I am convinced to rejoin this blog with runner reports, except that for the next six weeks....nada running.

From Rye on Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 22:20:54 from 97.121.11.186

Super run flat...Way to take it easy on the holiday weekend. I have a little thing going at home, running 10 to 16 miles before anyone at home thinks about waking up...hope that you don't have to take too much verbal abuse on the 9am thing....

From flatlander on Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 10:47:51 from 75.247.168.232

E, good luck on the surgery. Please let me know sooner than later how you are feeling.

Burt, not awkward at all, glad you checked back in. Hope you had a good weekend.

Rye, that's the secret, it's the way we do this and still have everybody else think we are normal.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.100.000.000.0010.10

75F, 96% humidity at start, 79F, 90% at end.  Beautiful clear morning, but it was an interesting weekend.  Friday night visiting my daughter and her family, we went out to a popular barbeque joint about 20 minutes out in the country from their house in Central Texas.  We were treated very well, it was all you could eat and we ate to our heart's content.  Then about 24 hours later we started giving it all back.  Food poisoning.  I have no idea how I did my long run on Saturday night, but by noon on Sunday I was pretty weak and as a result I didn't make it out for a run yesterday.

This morning I still felt dizzy and a little weak but thought I should try for a couple of miles at least.  So I put on my flat shoes and took off, and immediately felt better, like I was flushing the toxins out.  One thing about this weather, it is good for flushing.  So I ran the whole route in about 1:36 (hoping to get my new Garmin today), average pace about 9:20.  I sped up on mile 9 then had to slow down for the last mile because my feet in the thin-soled shoes didn't like the crushed granite jogging trail that I use for the last loop.

As soon as I stopped I felt nauseous again, go figure.  I'm feeling tolerable right now and I have a lot to do today, so just pressing on.

One thing I saw Saturday night on my long run I forgot to mention, but I'll do it now.  It was a small thing but memorable to me.  Just at sunset I saw a bunch of people getting out of 2 or 3 vehicles and going into a house, carrying fireworks and side dishes.  No big deal, just another 4th of July party.  But then I noticed, from their accents and dress, that they were Indian Americans.  How cool is that?

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From Smooth on Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 14:49:16 from 174.23.191.197

WAY to knock out 10 miles and nice pace too consider the heat, the food poison/cleansing and all.

Hope you got something to eat and feeling better now.

That is cool to witness the Native Americans celebrating Independence Day. When I was at the Stadium of Fire, I too saw some Native Americans seated 2 rows in front of us. Our seatmates asked where I was from. They commented that it was pretty cool to see an Asian family participating in an Eagle Scout Court of Honor which only happens in a life time since this is Scouting's 100th year anniversary. I hope my son remembers the special occasion and looks back and tells his son of this event!

From flatlander on Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:52:39 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks, can't believe what a busy weekend you had.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.120.000.000.0010.12

79F, 94% humidity, wind ESE 5 mph, nice hot running weather, no chance of catching a cold today.  Got my new Garmin in the mail and strapped it on this morning, ran 10.12 miles at low heart rate in flat shoes.  Average pace 11:04 per mile.  I had some low 10s early in the run but as the internal heat built up I gradually slowed down to mid-11s.  I checked the last low heart rate run I recorded on April 16 at 64F.  The first three miles were almost the same, 11:43, 10:19, 10:11, but my overall pace on that day was 10:25, about the same as my last lap, and I never slowed down much until the last two miles, even then by only a few seconds.  Today my last mile was about 11:40, so at the end of a 10-mile run the heat (only about 15 degrees higher) slows me down by about 1:15 per mile at low heart rate.  After 20 miles I think the effect is even more dramatic, though I have never tried to run that far at low heart rate.  More nerdy stuff, sorry.

One more technical note, if you buy a new Garmin you don't have to buy a new heart rate strap, the old one works just fine.  That might seem obvious, but I thought they might be synching individual monitors with individual machines.  It is a generic piece of equipment.  Probably useless information, though, I don't think you can buy them separately.

On a less technical note, I saw a snake.  Didn't investigate him too closely but I don't think it was a garter snake.

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From KP on Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:59:39 from 65.208.22.25

yay! i'm glad your new toy came in.

From Rye on Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 14:16:46 from 174.27.108.29

Running toys are awesome! Enjoy....on a run a few weeks ago.....without my contacts in, I mistakenly stepped on a brown twig. Realizing afterwards that it was soft snake...well after a few cartwheels and forward rolls I managed to get a hold of myself....Yikes! It was a harmless water snake sunny himself.

From Smooth on Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 16:06:00 from 174.23.191.197

There's an article in this month's RW about running in heat and humidity. It says every 5 degrees above 60F can slow your pace 20 - 30 seconds per mile.

I bought a new 305 just before Boston this year and now have 2 heart rate monitor straps that I'm not using. I should have just bought a 205 instead...but never know if I might go back to training with HR again.

NICE mileage this week, btw!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 08:21:12 from 84.11.148.246

That's some good data analysis from the new gadget. Glad you're over the food poisoning crud.

From flatlander on Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 11:44:33 from 198.207.244.102

KP, I prefer to think of it as a finely tuned scientific instrument.

Rye, that is a close call. Could have easily been something else. We are vulnerable out there.

Smooth, thanks for reminding me. I saw it too but forgot to check it against my own results -- it works out almost exactly as predicted, interesting.

Joe, thanks, still some lingering effects but not enough to complain about. Thanks for giving me the excuse.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.070.000.000.0010.07

Forgot to check the weather, but it felt like low 70s, starting to rain by the time I finished, nice breeze most of the run.  I ran 10.07 in 1:34:14, regular shoes.  Average pace was 9:22 per mile.  After a 2-mile warmup at low heart rate I ran the rest at about 160 bpm, which translated into a low 8s pace to start, slowing down to high 9s at the end, about 1:45 per minute pace drift, which I attribute mostly to the heat.  The last two miles I moved up to 170-175 bpm and got the pace back into the mid to high 8s.  Overall pace for the last 8 miles was 8:55. 

My idea is to build endurance at marathon heart rate. Maybe running this hard two or three times a week will be fairly sustainable.  The major bust at UVM was not being able to sustain the heart rate late in the race, something I didn't really expect.  Some of that was altitude-related and stomach cramping, but in the end it all comes back to training.  In any event, in this heat there isn't any other way to measure progress that I can come up with.

Toward the end of my run I noticed the jail bus parked right in our neighborhood.  Usually they are out on the road somewhere picking up trash.  My first thought was to direct them to my house, as I have a couple of kids who could benefit from a couple of weeks working on that crew.  Then I got upset when I realized that a busload of budding felons was casing my neighborhood on tax dollars.  Time to write a letter.

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From KP on Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 11:45:42 from 65.208.22.25

time to write a letter.

From flatlander on Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 12:27:56 from 198.207.244.102

Yeah, I need to figure out who to write it too. I guess the sheriff's department takes these guys out for exercise but not sure. Don't really understand what they were thinking.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.050.000.000.0010.05

76F, 98% humidity, wind S 1 mph, essentially calm.  Ran 10.05 in 1:48:35, average pace 10:48 minutes per mile, flat shoes and low heart rate.  So 16 seconds per mile faster than Tuesday, and after running pretty hard yesterday.  Had to be happy with this run, pace drift was not nearly as pronounced as Tuesday.  My lowest total average pace was 10:43 at about mile 5, so it only went up 5 seconds after that.  Maybe I am getting acclimated to these temperatures that we will have for three more months.  But whatever the reason I was happy to be able to run the whole distance at a decent pace and to have my legs feel good afterward.  The flat shoes experiment seems to be paying dividends, the best case scenario would be if they make me able to run harder with less risk of injury.  I can certainly feel the difference for the better in my knees, and my foot/ankle ligaments and tendons seem to have toughened up.  Calves are fine.  Hips are still getting used to them and the bottoms of my feet always take a pounding, especially when I land wrong on a rock.  They are definitely not good for off-roading.

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From SlowJoe on Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 15:45:33 from 84.11.148.246

Interesting strategy to train in the flats, but I can see how that would help toughen up all those tendons and ligaments like you said.

From flatlander on Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 14:21:58 from 76.31.26.153

Can't do it every day yet, but getting much better. My legs definitely feel better.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
17.510.000.000.0017.51

73F, 97% humidity to start, 82F/85% to end.  Got up dark and early to run with a group at the YMCA located about 8 miles from my home.  I ran 2 miles to my friend's house, drove then started running at 5:30.  He is a little faster than me, but having trouble going long distances in the heat, so he was happy to go a slower speed with me.  We settled on 10 minute miles and kept that up most of the time, running what was supposed to be a 14 mile course with the group but it was only 13.5.  Toward the end the pace picked up quite a bit, down to low 9s.  When we finished we drove back to his house and I ran the last 2 miles home, stiff and slow at first but finally speeding up to low 9s.  I was toying with running home from the Y, but due to the speeding up at the end of the group run I had a heart rate over 170 and knew in the full sunlight it would be a deathmarch, so I took the ride.  Overall pace for 17.51 miles was 9:55, including some slow warmup miles, total time 2:53:52, regular shoes.  I think before the summer is over I will be able to do 20 at a low 9 pace, mid to low 8s would be a fantasy goal.  Today was about a minute per mile faster than last week and I wasn't as tired.  I feel like I am finally getting acclimated.  The other two summers since I started running I had injuries that kept me in the house during the summer, so this is the first time I have been out in the soup week after week.

I am pretty happy with this run.  Took some salt tablets and a little bit of Gatorade without any adverse effects, so branching out from warm water here.  Amazing how fast the time goes by when there is somebody to talk to.  Plus I met some people in the area who are serious about running marathons, one guy I was running with has done 50. 

Not sure I will go out there every week, some Saturdays the program just doesn't fit with what I need to do, but I will probably join the group, they charge dues for Gatorade and such, but not much.  Do running groups in Utah charge dues?  It makes sense but I hadn't really heard of it.  Here in Texas we always organize, it seems.  At the Alamo we weren't organized and we learned our lesson. 

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From Stephen on Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 14:55:56 from 71.195.218.176

I don't remember the alamo.

Great run, Mark. You can see my report at stephen.fastrunningblog.com. You are miles ahead.

From Smooth on Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 15:13:44 from 174.23.191.197

NICE long run! WAY to pick up the pace to a strong finish on a hot humid day. I agree that running with someone is the way to go for long runs, make the miles go by faster.

In Utah we bring our own fuel, fluids and organize our own so no charge for Gatorade. a local running store, Salt Lake Running Co. Have placed coolers of Gatorade and water and bag full of energy gels on the Jordan River Parkway some Saturdays before major Utah Marathons. No charge either. It's such a nice gesture and benefit for locals runners.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 15:10:06 from 84.11.148.246

Solid long run by the looks of it. They have a running club here with small dues, but you get a shirt and reduced entry fees to local races so it's probably a net zero.

From flatlander on Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:32:08 from 76.31.26.153

Stephen, I do.

Smooth, that's cool the local running stores are so integrated into the running community like that. I think we are just too big here.

Joe, they might have something similar going on here, I just haven't dug into it deep enough yet. As I have thought about it over the weekend I am a little skeptical that this group's pacing is going to match up that well with what I need to be doing on my long runs. I'll have to be careful about that and no get too comfortable.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.220.000.000.0011.22

77F, 93% humidity.  Out the door at 5:30 for a slow recovery run, clear day with a slow breeze coming from somewhere.  Beautiful out.  11.22 miles in 2:01:02, average pace 10:47, low heart rate and flat shoes.  Only 1 second per mile faster than Friday, but at 10 miles my overall pace was 10:44, which indicates a couple of things:  (1) It is good to be running longer distances when going slow, because there is a lot of pace drift in this heat on the back end of these runs, where I lost 3 seconds/mile overall pace in the last 1.2 miles, indicating there is considerable improvement to be had there; and  (2) 4 seconds per mile faster than Friday at the 10 mile mark, so today was actually a statistical improvement over Friday, which was 10:48 per mile at the 10 mile mark.  That's about all I know for a Monday morning.

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From SlowJoe on Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:27:40 from 84.11.148.246

I think you could write a book on heart rate training - I'm learning from your experiences and data.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.300.002.800.0010.10

79F, 89% humidity, wind SSW 8 mph.  Great morning for running, but don't like the wind coming from that direction.  It feels dry and scratchy, which I know is a funny-sounding complaint.  I am a finely tuned instrument and the least little thing throws me off.  If I ever got deployed to the desert like SlowJoe (or Burt) I would be a mess.

Ran 10.10 in 1:38:17, average pace 9:44 per mile in regular shoes.  It was mostly low heart rate but I threw in some 10K pacing.  The plan was to do 2 x 3200 at 7:30 pace.  First one I almost finished, 7:25 (165 bpm), 7:25 (179 bpm), but the second split was only .8 miles, couldn't hold it the full two, heart rate was climbing rapidly and hit 184 about the time I quit.  I could have pushed through but I am in the live-to-fight-another-day mode so I backed off.  I did run one more fast mile a little later, 7:35 (176 bpm), then jogged slowly until the last mile which I ran at low 9s then down to low 8s, getting my heart rate back up to 175.  So I didn't quite get there but I learned a lot and made progress.  Mid-7s is an ambitious but good speed for me.  It feels more relaxed now, not a killer injury-inducing sprint like a few months ago.  If I could stabilize my heart rate in the 170-175 range at that speed I felt like I could go indefinitely.  Ultimate goal is a 10K at 7:00 pace, but that might be a little much for this summer.

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From Rye on Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 09:18:47 from 174.27.108.29

The heat! This morning in Idaho Falls at 6:45am 38 degrees! It does warm up though...

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:52:16 from 84.11.148.246

Hey I just found my excuse for not running in the heat: I'm a finely tuned instrument. Thanks!

Hey, nice tempo miles too. Nice that the same pace is getting more and more relaxed.

From Smooth on Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 14:35:32 from 174.23.214.90

SPEEDY intervals! I know all about finely tuned instrument! :)

From flatlander on Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 15:36:12 from 198.207.244.102

Rye, right now I would kill for those temperatures, but I have my job to do.

Joe, don't forget to change the oil!

Smooth, thanks, if you're like me it doesn't take much to upset the balance.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.130.000.000.0011.13

78F, 91% humidity, wind S 5 mph.  Great morning to run.  Did the run in the next neighborhood down, trying to give my neighbors a break.  11.13 miles in 2:04:41, average pace 11:12, flat shoes and low heart rate.  Not as fast as Monday, but I was running more to the low end of the heart rate zone.  Even so I felt very tired after this run, possibly a hangover from yesterday, but I may have to back off at least one day this week.  One interesting thing is that at this slightly slower speed there was almost no pace drift at the end of the run, which makes sense I guess.

One of my kids is bringing home a friend who won't eat anything served at our house.  No fruits, vegetables, casseroles, pasta or dairy.  No meat except fast food burgers or chicken nuggets, not even steak.  She giggles and calls herself a "picky eater".  Basically if it isn't on the menu at McDonalds she won't eat it.  Sad thing is, she is probably closer to normal than me.  No runner would consider subsisting on a junk food diet, but we are the minority.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.180.003.000.006.18

73F, 100% humidity, wind calm.  Very pretty morning and not too hot, but the humidity was even higher than usual.  The plan was to back off a little bit, as I didn't feel fully recovered when I went to bed last night.  Felt better when I got up but decided to go shorter anyway.  I ran 3 miles at gradually increasing pace and heart rate, 10:52 (125), 8:50 (147), 8:26 (157), then took it to 170 bpm and tried to keep it there.  Next three splits were 7:52 (168), 8:17 (171) and 8:28 (173), so a lot of pace drift at a fairly even level of effort.  Mile six was about the same speed as mile three, but it was quite a bit harder.  Total run was 6.18 miles in 51:44, average pace 8:51.  Lots of upside for this type of workout.  But I did feel better post-workout today, meaning I should be able to do this run or something similar quite often.

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From jasro on Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:59:16 from 198.50.4.4

Nice work. You are really progressing well. Based on your workouts, I expect to see some really great times this fall.

From Burt on Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 13:24:02 from 206.19.214.144

Nice job Mark. Now go treat yourself to some McDonalds.

From flatlander on Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 14:29:36 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks Jason. I won't really be able to tell how much improvement until it cools down. Last year I got a 1:30 pop over my best long run times once I got into the cool weather at St. George.

Burt, I know, it was a rant. But I swear, some kitchen appliances in my neighborhood must still be shrink-wrapped. And those kids have no manners. They think it is your fault you aren't meeting their menu requirements. Sometimes ya gotta call 'em like you seeum.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.200.000.000.0012.20

Forgot to check the weather, but it felt about the same, clear and little breeze.  I ran 12.2 miles in 1:55:48, average pace 9:30 per mile, regular shoes.  Ran quite a few miles in the 150-160 heart rate zone until finally breaking through to the mid-160s toward the end.  Started to feel a little woozy in the heat so I called it a day.  I need to be able to sustain 170 at the end of a long run for several miles, as in the final 10K.  Once I can do that my times will start to improve more quickly, I think.  I can do it at the front of a run for 10K, not sure why it is different later on, since heart rate is the best indicator of level of effort, but it is different.  You can get tired without your heart rate going up.  Just conditioning I guess.  The goal is to maintain a 9:30 average for 20, then move down to a faster speed.  Baby steps, but at least all systems are working fine and I maintained an even pace.

As a St. George loser (that sounds wrong), I signed up for the Hartford ING marathon on October 9.  It looks like a good race, have heard good things about it.  Flat and sea level, dude.  Who knows, maybe faster than SGM?  That will be my last shot at a qualifying time for Boston 2011.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
20.010.000.000.0020.01

77F, 95% humidity, clear and dark.  I had a commitment at 8:00 a.m. so I went out the door at 4:00 to do this run, basically the run I missed yesterday.  The goal was to run 20 miles at 9:30 per mile, which is fast enough for me in this heat.  I ran 20.01 miles in 3:09:03, average pace 9:27 per mile.  Some of the splits and heart rates:  Mile 4:  9:31 (147); mile 8:  9:36 (153); mile 12:  9:30 (159); mile 16:  9:19 (167); and mile 20:  9:17 (175).  So my heart rate drifted steadily but not so much that I couldn't make the run.  I didn't hit 170 until about mile 18, but more importantly I didn't break 150 until about mile 6.  That is when I knew I had a chance to pull it off, although I am not sure why I was running better today than yesterday; I would have guessed that running two of these in a row would compromise the second one but it didn't happen.  I almost decided to jog it in after I got a 9:40 for mile 18 since I had banked about 70 seconds of cushion, but managed to pull through and get the pace back down.  I need to be tougher.  This is the first long run I have nailed in a while, it felt good. 

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From derhammer on Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 15:36:32 from 70.113.125.89

Nice job toughing it out. There is no shame in walking for 20-30 seconds to get the heart rate back down.

From Rye on Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 18:25:39 from 97.121.21.30

Stud!!!! nice miles this week! Nice dedication. Glad to see another early riser out there.

From Smooth on Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 23:24:12 from 174.23.244.221

AWESOME 20 miler! That's the pace I hope to shoot for in a 20 miler...but in much cooler condition than TX! You are super dedicated...running solo and all! VERY VERY IMPRESSIVE mileage this week. Are you following any particular training schedule? Pete Pfitzinger's plan has us follow HR, but I haven't been the HR system. NICE JOB on the HR monitoring.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 07:34:59 from 214.13.130.104

Nice one! Looks like HR increase was almost linear as you went along. It always feels nice to hit your goal in a big run.

From Stephen on Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:57:55 from 71.195.218.176

You continue to impress me. Keep up the good work and you'll soon find yourself in Boston.

From flatlander on Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 21:06:50 from 76.31.26.153

derhammer, thanks, was trying to not stop since I can't stop in races, but I might have done better if I had tried it.

Rye, wasn't liking the early hour but after a while it was no different.

Smooth, thanks. I haven't followed him much, although I think he was the one who said you will never race better than your best long run. The HR stuff I mostly make up on my own.

Joe, you are right now that I look at it. Some time I should see how far up it will go before I collapse.

Stephen, thanks. Boston would be nice, but still some work to do.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.230.000.000.0012.23

75F, 95% humidity, getting ready to rain but temperature felt good.  Got out the door early and ran 12.23 miles in 2:13:59, average pace 10:57 per mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.  Felt good for a recovery run.  I held a steady pace at a steady bpm for the most part.  Headed to work a half hour after finishing and it was a downpour all the way in.  I was wet anyway because it is hot, but not sure I wanted to get soaked this morning.

Today feels relaxed compared to the weekend.  It was wall to wall mixture of family stuff, work and church from Friday night until Sunday night.  Started with a call from China late Friday night that turned into a 3-day drill to get a document done, most difficult thing was getting everybody on the same page across three cultures.  On top of that was all the normal family and church schedule.  Not to mention a long run.  Happy when I finished everything.

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From Smooth on Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 17:03:14 from 174.23.244.221

Sounds like a packed weekend! Glad you were able to finish everything and got a long run in.

NICE mileage on a Monday morning before work. You're amazing! Have a great week!

From Rye on Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 17:17:54 from 174.27.108.29

Great run today.

From Mack on Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 20:11:51 from 71.111.186.66

I'm with Smooth, nice job on the monday morning long run after all of the goings on of the past few days!

From flatlander on Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 20:54:57 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks all for the comments.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

90 minutes on elliptical, frontwards and backwards.  That wasn't the plan, but I fell off the wagon this morning.  I set my alarm last night but didn't turn it on.  By the time I woke up it was too late to do a run before a dentist appointment.  By the time the appointment was over it was too hot and sunny for a run, given my delicate disposition.  So I took a nap.  Then got up and went to the rec center for penance on the elliptical.  After an hour and a half I decided I had punished myself enough and I quit, then took my wife to a new restaurant that turned out to be pretty good.  We will go back.  So all in all not a bad day, even though I missed a key speed workout.  I'll do it tomorrow and figure things out from there.  I'm going to go watch the Astros lose again now.  Predictability is underrated.

Comments
From Burt on Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 21:10:32 from 206.19.214.144

They're not playing the D-Backs, are they? Because then you could predict a victory.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 07:41:46 from 214.13.130.104

Wow, 90 minutes on the elliptical is a harsh punishment!

When we lived in Houston for a couple years after college, we'd go watch the 'stros a few times a month. Always fun, but they were much better back then of course...

From flatlander on Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 09:26:13 from 198.207.244.102

Burt and Joe, my sins were worse than I thought. The Astros had a 6-run lead and lost by 7. How is that possible? No more naps for me.

From KP on Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:07:18 from 65.208.22.26

excuse me... don't you have a JOB!?!?!

From flatlander on Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:19:08 from 198.207.244.102

Job?!! Actually, I was working out of the house yesterday since my car was in the shop. Managed to keep my clients happy and get a nap as well. Like I said, it was a good day.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.650.004.000.0010.65

79F, 92% humidity, wind NE 2 mph, clear.  Very nice morning for running.  Went 10.65 miles in 1:43:32, average pace 9:43 per mile, regular shoes.  Ran three miles warmup at about 10:45 per mile, then 2X3200 with 2 miles jogging between, then another 1.65 cooldown.  The splits for the 4 threshold miles (2 sets of 2) were 7:27 (162) and 7:23 (174), then 7:44 (169) and 7:37 (180), average 7:33 compared to a goal of 7:30.  So it seems like I almost made it but my second set was way slower, just no more gas in the tank, so I am not yet declaring victory.  Heart rate hit 184 at the end of the last mile, so it was more VO2 max than threshold level.  That is OK, but it shows that I don't quite have this speed under control yet.  One of these days I will go to a track and figure out what my max heart rate is.  Seems ridiculous that I still don't know.  I think it is 190 but I am not sure.  I wonder if it is possible to raise one's maximum heart rate.  I have read that the max goes down as you get more fit, but that doesn't really make sense to me.  Another good thing is that my legs feel fine, actually better than the noodles I was walking around on after getting off the elliptical machine last night.  This was a good run for me, pushed through some significant fatigue.  I may lower my wimp factor from 10 to 9, unless I get major objections, at which point I will scurry back into my cave.

The advertisement on my "Add Entry" page this morning says "Start a Soda/Snack Vending Business".  This is a running blog, right?

Comments
From KP on Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:10:31 from 65.208.22.26

sweet times on those speedy miles!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:03:24 from 84.11.148.246

I agree, great workout. You definitely can't be accused of wimpiness, hitting that 184 bpm.

From flatlander on Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 13:57:09 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks guys. I saw a guy this morning obviously pushing pretty hard, but he didn't seem to be going that fast. Then I realized he was probably beating my 7s from yesterday.

From derhammer on Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 17:18:20 from 65.67.40.73

Hey there,

Heart rate is pretty much genetic and cannot be "raised" and, in fact, your ceiling will come down a few BPM with age. Max HR really does not matter anyway - it is the efficiency that matters. What I mean is that over time you will be able to run faster at the same HR as your fitness improves. Lactate threshold, VO2Max, running economy, etc. call all be improved. You are stuck with your Max HR though. Living in Houston you should have some type of V02Max testing available. Up here the University of Texas offers it to the public. They will do body fat, max HR, blood lactate test (by pricking your ear lobe and testing your blood at various speeds) max speed, VO2max, etc. I think the cost is $110 or so. It is well worth it.

http://www.edb.utexas.edu/fit/aerobicfit.php

Nice reading as well: http://www.edb.utexas.edu/fit/runningaf.php

Hey, another excuse to come up to Austin!

From flatlander on Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:30:48 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks derhammer. I have intended to go get tested for a while, just never made it. There must be a similar lab here in Houston somewhere. I do want to come to Austin and take a dip in Barton Springs, though.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.110.000.000.0013.11

79F, 94% humidity, part cloudy and part rainy.  Nice weather out there, didn't drink as much water with the cloud cover and rain.  Ran 13.11 in 2:23:36, average pace 10:57 per mile, flat shoes.  This was a recovery run, low heart rate (131) all the way, I just chugged through it at the same speed for the whole distance.  Got back to my house at 12.7 miles, then decided to do a little extra to make it exactly a half.  Other than that nothing of note.  Got a little bit of rain during the run, but it was more like the sky was sweating, it gets like that here sometimes.  The lightning from the rain never got close, but it did keep me close to the house.

Comments
From Smooth on Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 14:05:18 from 174.23.218.43

AWESOME running this week! Very NICE lsr keeping the heart rate low. You're training very intelligently.

Better the sky sweat than getting hit by lightening.

From flatlander on Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:32:19 from 198.207.244.102

Yeah, I was keeping an eye on it. I do not run when lightning is close. Last year it hit the street light in front of our house and shattered it. It was spectacular but messy.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.670.000.002.5010.17

79F, 97% humidity, wind ENE 3 mph though I never felt a hint of a breeze.  Good morning for running anyway, no storms today.  Warmed up for three miles then ran 10x400 with 400 recovery in between.  I ran the intervals overall in the high 6s, mile pace for each 400 split was 7:16, 6:50, 6:38, 6:35, 7:02, 6:50, 6:57, 6:53, 7:07 and 6:59, average 6:55.  Highest heart rate 187.  Pace for the warmup, recovery and cooldown miles was mid to high 10s.  Overall, 10.17 miles in 1:40:12, 9:51 per mile, regular shoes.  This run took the starch out of my legs, but it felt good anyway.  Nothing like speedwork to produce that endorphin glow for the rest of the day.  Everybody at work thinks I'm smiling because it's Friday.

I'm going to run with the neighborhood group again in the morning.  They are going 4 miles.  What's up with that?  Unless they are running it at 10K speed?  There is apparently a summer running memo circulating that I never saw.  I'm going to have to be creative to get a regular run in.

Comments
From Smooth on Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:45:21 from 174.23.218.43

AWESOME speed work! Check out that 6:35! I can barely breath in that heat and humidity! YOU are INCREDIBLE!!!

I can just picture you smiling all day at the office! Have a great weekend and show the neighborhood group how it's done!

From Rye on Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 23:24:17 from 97.121.0.16

Nice miles this week! Great session on the speed work and all. You are a tiger with running in those temps.

From lightitup on Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 02:46:10 from 67.185.20.107

Just checking in to say I checked in. I love reading about your progress every day. My training for the day was cleaning the garage...it's just not the same. Great job on the 400s. You should do Yasso 800s...it will get your confidence up for ING.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 04:44:26 from 214.13.130.104

Yowzah! 2.5 really fast miles right there. I'm always glowing for awhile after a good one like that too. Well done.

From baldnspicy on Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:51:02 from 72.95.172.159

Great job! I wimped out today with the heat & humidity. I should have read your blog last night. I probably wouldn't have wimped... Looking great, Flat!

From flatlander on Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 16:51:35 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks all, I really appreciate you checking in.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.764.000.000.0018.76

73F, 94% humidity at start, 83F, 92% at end.  Pretty good running weather, at least until the sun came up.  18.76 miles in 3:13:25, average pace 10:19.  This was a weird run.  I left the house and ran to the Y, a little over 7 miles.  I had no water stations so I was going to take a backpack and a handheld.  Fixed it up and put it in the fridge overnight, but when I put the pack on this morning it felt heavy, so I left it and just took the handheld.  Seemed like a good idea at the time, and that arrangement worked fine on the way to Y.  I ran this part at about 10:30 to 11:00 pace.  There must have been 150 runners milling around when I got to the Y, getting instructions, doing warmups, etc.  Turns out there was a 2-mile group and a 4-mile group.  When I asked somebody he said the 4-milers were "back there", as if they were an elite group or something.  Finally they came up and we started at about 7:15 in the morning, already pretty late.  A man and a woman were running out ahead, so I sped up, eventually caught them toward the end then just tucked in behind, didn't want to make a spectacle out of myself as the newbie.  I ran it hard for me, low 8s and high 7s, about MP minus 30 seconds overall, but speeding up throughout, heart rate up to 181 at the end.    I could have taken it slow like the rest of the run, but that wouldn't have been interesting -- I am sure there are several runners in this group with faster marathon times than me, but I can't figure out why experienced runners would do a 4-mile run on Saturday morning and take it slow on top of that, unless there are special circumstances.

After the run there was a lecture by the local running store, stuff like "here is a shoe, here is a gu".  There are some good runners in this group, but this morning was beginners-ville, which was OK, just not what I need.  So I refilled my hand-held and started back in the bright sun about 9:00 or 9:30.  I quickly ran out of water about halfway home.  Exploring a neighborhood looking for solutions I met a woman I go to church with who was happy to fill me up, but she acted like she was looking at a ghost.  Must have looked pretty bad.  She did not invite me in, which was smart on her part.  I thanked her for saving me from certain death and proceeded on.  A couple of miles further I found some lawn sprinklers and took a shower -- had to repeat the shower part when I got home, though.  Finally finished about 10:30 or so and was totally drug out, took an hour just to get re-hydrated.  But it was an interesting morning, although I'm not going to do any more group runs that start at 7:15, at least until the weather cools off.

 

Comments
From Stephen on Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 01:08:01 from 71.195.218.176

Thank goodness that lady saved your life today. What would I do if I couldn't read your blogs?

You have really come a long ways because of your extensive training. Hopefully, you will keep yourself better hydrated on the next long run.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:09:17 from 214.13.130.104

That is quite strange that a running group (the advanced group) would only do 4 miles on a weekend. Dehydrated runs are no fun, all you think about is getting water - nice job getting through it.

From Rye on Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:26:50 from 174.27.108.29

Ah, lawn sprinklers have saved me I don't how many times. Glad that there are a few friendly people around to bale you out. I agree with joe, thers's nothing like running when all you think about is slamming down some water! Nice job

From flatlander on Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:28:55 from 76.31.26.153

Stephen, hmmm, I wonder if Monday's problem might be related to dehydration on Saturday? Sounds like a bit of a stretch, but stranger things have happened.

Joe, still haven't figured it out. This same group ran 14 miles two weeks ago, and I know that for most people every Saturday is not a long run, but 4 miles?

Rye, thanks, even more humiliating I had to walk around with the sprinkler just to stay in the flow. Didn't care at the time.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.040.000.000.007.04

73F, 89% humidity, cloudy and calm.  Great morning for running, but trouble with my ankle.  I ran 7.04 miles in 1:04:09, average pace 9:07 per mile, flat shoes.  Everything was going great, feeling strong and planning on 12 miles, running in the 8:20 to 8:30 range after a couple of warmup miles.  Then I felt sharp pains in my right foot, on the outside below the ankle.  I pulled up and walked in and iced it.  By the time I left for work it stiffened and I limped badly all day.  It is better this morning (Tuesday morning) but it is definitely going to be a low mileage week, mostly on my friend the elliptical torture device.  Usually in the cold light of the morning after I can identify what I did wrong, why I was working up to a problem.  This one came out of nowhere, honestly can't say what I was doing wrong or how I could have prevented it.  That is frustrating, but I planned on an easy week anyway so will make do.

Comments
From jasro on Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:01:21 from 198.50.4.4

Ughh ... hate injuries. Hang in there. Thanks for your explanation on altitude. Your observations are consistent with my experiences. But you seem to be a little more educated on it than I am.

Keep up the good work.

From derhammer on Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:01:39 from 192.156.110.33

Sorry to hear about your ankle. I use one of these fairly often - even when I feel just a bit of soreness, strain, or pain. I like it because I can take it out of the freezer and strap it on - at work, home, etc. You can even heat it up in the microwave to provide heat therapy.

http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/catalog/shop_product_detail.jsp?filterBy=&skuId=318180&productId=318180&navAction=push&navCount=3&no_new_crumb=true

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 13:32:40 from 84.11.148.246

Dang. Good luck with it this week. I guess low ankle sprains aren't the worst thing, if that's what it is, but definitely frusturating to lose the training on something that cropped up out of nothing.

From flatlander on Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:10:48 from 76.31.26.153

Jason, maybe not more educated, just more opinionated. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.

David, thanks for the info. I'm going to go get a couple of those. I can keep one at work and use it during the day.

Joe, that's how I feel too. Ankles never seem to keep me out of commission for too long. Already feeling better and hoping for a quick recovery.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.000.000.000.003.00

Did 30 minutes on elliptical this morning.  I limped badly on Monday with the ankle/heel injury, limped around again yesterday but with longer steps, and felt pretty good this morning.  The elliptical hurt for a few minutes but I got warmed up the injury receded to mere background noise.  Could have gone longer but there was no need, the object today was to just get going again.  After showering and walking around, it looks like most of my limp is gone, so still on track to run again starting about Saturday.  As I continue to run I notice that I recover from hard runs faster.  I wonder if the same is true of injuries.  If I can get back to running this week, this injury will have been nothing more than a small glitch.  Just speculation though, trying not to count my chickens quite yet.

Instead of running yesterday I ate.  Started out with a large breakfast of eggs, rice, toast with butter and jam and orange juice, then a massive lunch at the best Thai restaurant in Houston (it is recruiting season at our law firm) where I ate way too much hot food, followed by a recruiting dinner at a steak house.  At dinner I was smart enough to order salmon (yep, I was one of those guys who orders fish at a steak house), but with the salad, sides and dessert it must have added up to 2000 calories.  My GI tract rebelled, but I'm back to normal now.  I think I gained two pounds yesterday.

Comments
From SlowJoe on Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 13:10:23 from 84.11.148.246

One of those nice replenishing days every once and awhile can't be all bad. Recruiting season sounds delicious - note to self...get law degree.

From Rye on Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:47:25 from 174.27.108.29

I am out on the law degree...Someone told me that takes brains....Hope that the recruiting goes fast or we will be rolling you out the door for your runs lol!!

From RivertonPaul on Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 15:45:23 from 67.42.27.114

Yummy.

From Missee on Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:03:30 from 97.117.106.192

And a yummy two pounds it was, I'm sure!!!

From lightitup on Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:20:07 from 67.185.20.107

So... If I bombed the LSAT, will I lose two pounds? :/

From flatlander on Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 22:59:09 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, talk to me before you do anything crazy like that.

Rye, you are on to something. Energy efficiency. A basketball rolls further than a football, ergo the fatter the better.

Paul, you know there is nothing better than sharing the cost with your partners.

Missee, that it was, but interesting that my body didn't really want that much rich food.

E, are going to do it again? Good for you.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

One hour on the elliptical this morning, half frontwards and half backwards.  Ankle feeling better again today, but improvement is not as dramatic as yesterday.  I still think I will be ready to run again by Saturday.  I have about given up on reading to pass the time, too awkward trying to wrestle a newspaper while bouncing around on a machine.  I'm going to try my iPod tomorrow.  I don't like to run with it but it might be good for the gym.  I figured out today that the reason I don't like the gym it is because it is mindless, and in my opinion running is not mindless.  I wonder if there is anybody other than a recovering runner who goes to the gym every day for aerobic exercise.  Walkers and runners can tend to be pretty regular, but I do not see the same people every day at the gym, it is always somebody different.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

90 minutes on elliptical.  I tried running to the clubhouse (1/3 mile), but unfortunately my foot is still not up to it, which means my long run tomorrow will be short at best, possibly nada.  I feel fine walking around, but it just isn't there yet.  Bummer.  Tomorrow is going to be the hottest day of the year and I was really looking forward to that.  Not really.

Comments
From SlowJoe on Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:06:37 from 84.11.148.246

I probably said this last time you did 90 minutes on the elliptical, but I am impressed you, or anyone, can stay on there that long. Dang ankle, hope it works out where you can torture yourself a little outside tomorrow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

73F, 84% humidity, practically a cold front.  I ran one mile then did 50 minutes on the elliptical.  My foot is still unstable, hard to tell if it is healing, certainly not quickly.  My gait was compromised, but it did seem to feel a little better after about a half mile.  I didn't push it, I'll see how it feels later today.

I didn't do anything over the weekend running-wise.  I was hoping two days off would cure everything.  It didn't, but it was still the right thing to do.  My grandkids were in and the younger one presented us with her first steps last night just as they were leaving.  Needless to say, that delayed their departure by about an hour.  Her stride is about the same as mine.  We immediately called my son and his wife of 7 months, who unbelievably are still childless, and told them of the new high standard that had been set.  Don't want to create any sibling rivalry, of course, but grandparents have to look out for themselves first, right?

Comments
From Stephen on Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 09:53:05 from 204.182.3.235

"Her stride is about the same as mine."

These kinds of quotes keep me coming back to your blog.

From KP on Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 09:59:59 from 65.208.22.26

congrats, grandpa! what an awesome thing to witness!

From Rye on Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 13:21:33 from 174.27.108.29

Make sure you bundle up on those cold mornings!

From Smooth on Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 16:22:05 from 174.23.218.43

:) Ditto all of the above! :)

Yep, us grandparents have to look out for ourselves!

You're too funny! Thanks for putting a smile on my face! :D

From Burt on Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 16:22:37 from 206.19.214.144

As you saw from my blog, I'm pretty good at math. I could help you understand why mathematically your son and his wife of 7 months are still childless.

From Burt on Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 16:22:59 from 206.19.214.144

If you want.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:31:20 from 84.11.148.246

Brrr. Hope you are back at it soon. Your grandchild is going to post more miles than you this week!

From flatlander on Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 11:20:56 from 198.207.244.102

Burt, thanks. My wife intervened and I think I have it figured out now. I'll keep it in mind, though. For now it looks like you are getting all the math you can handle from AZDM.

Joe, gosh, I'm a little sensitive about that, mainly because it is true. Hope all is going well with you.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.500.000.000.001.50

I ran 1.5 easy on Tuesday morning and it didn't go well.  Made it through but there is something wrong with my right heel, even elliptical aggravates it to some extent.  I'm taking the rest of the week off and will try to run again on Tuesday a week if things feel better by then.  As of today (Thursday) things are better.  When I get up to walk it takes a couple of steps to get going, then relatively pain free unless I go quite a ways, in which case the ankle starts to act up a little bit.  I could run if I had to but it would be counterproductive.  My doctor/brother-in-law sent me a link that suggests inflammation of the peroneal tendon, which is the one that wraps around the outside of the leg from the calf muscle, behind the ankle bone and attaches low on the foot to the outside.  That would be good news if that is all it is, and if there is no tear.  He did say that in his experience (he is a runner), sudden injuries go away faster than the ones that build up slowly.

Shamelessly, here is a picture of my granddaughter, now a walker.  SlowJoe guessed correctly that she is logging more miles than me this week.

Comments
From KP on Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 11:45:33 from 65.208.22.26

an easy, rest week does the body good! enjoy the break!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 11:58:39 from 84.11.148.230

Look at that smile, she is cute!

Sorry about the slow healing on this injury. I'm rooting for (mild) tendonitis.

Shot in the dark here, but is that P.O.'s restaurant off Telge? Those tablecloths look familiar. We used to always follow up a round a golf at Cypress with an ostrich burger.

From flatlander on Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:07:11 from 198.207.244.102

KP, thanks, that's what I keep telling myself.

Joe, not P.O.s, though I have been there many times, it is only 3 or 4 miles from my house. This picture was taken at a barbecue joint about 20 miles outside of Temple, in the boonies. The BBQ came highly recommended, but afterward we all got sick, except for my granddaughter. I think her great attitude made her immune.

From Smooth on Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 21:51:19 from 174.23.203.161

Sorry about the sore heel/ankle! The best remedy for tendonitis is rest which I'm sure you already knew and doing patiently.

For some reason I can't see your grand-daughter's pic. on my computer. Darn, I bet she is cute as a button! Toddlers and babies are constantly in motion. I watched the movement of my grandbabies and thought if I do that, I'd be dead in no time!

From lightitup on Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 22:11:36 from 166.205.141.131

Sooooo cute!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

No running this weekend, or for a few days before that, still waiting for my heel to behave.  We think it is the peroneal tendon but I haven't been to anybody. 

I drove to Utah to pick up my son and his stuff, as he is moving to Houston to begin medical school.  We are starting back this morning but we will be back on Thursday and Friday for he and his wife's graduation from BYU.  They are staying at her grandparents' home, somewhere off of exit 282 on the east side of the freeway.  Her grandparents are on a church mission in South Africa.  I trucked in about mid-afternoon yesterday and packed the truck.  Then we went to an Indian restaurant in Sandy last night with another couple who are their friends.  The food was very good, I think Indian food might be a good alternative to pasta loading, but you would have to stick with the mild stuff for obvious reasons.

Here is the truck, ready to go.  Looks pretty good for a packing job by a lawyer, but it is kind of like a race, everybody looks good at the starting line.  We'll see if the load makes it to Texas or not.

Comments
From Smooth on Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:50:16 from 174.23.203.161

EXIT 282? That's the Lehi Main St. exit, isn't it? Wonder if I know your daughter-in-law's grandparents!

I had no idea you were in Utah!

CONGRATZ to your son's admission to Med School in Houston. My son graduated in April from BYU and just headed to AZ for med school. He is wife-less or girlfriend-less though. He drove down by his lonesome self with all his worldly possession in his Pontiac. We weren't even there to say good bye. You're so good to help your son move. How cool is that they are now closer to you!

From flatlander on Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:47:39 from 198.207.244.102

Very interesting about your son. My daughter-in-law's grandparents are Mortenson (don't know the first names). They are currently on a mission in South Africa. We drove east from exit 282 to get to their house, I was thinking Lehi was on the west side of the freeway? Funny thing, when I go back to Utah or Arizona I feel like I am going home, even though I have lived in Texas for almost 30 years. But we have raised a house full of Texans. Last year I had three kids in Utah, now none, each one couldn't wait to get back to Texas. Congratulations to your son. I assume he moved to Tucson? I am sure he will have lots of prospects, as soon as word gets out that there is a single med student in town.

From Smooth on Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 17:03:42 from 174.23.203.161

The name Mortenson does ring a bell! I'll have to ask my hubby if he knows them. I take exit 282 when I go home. I have lived in Lehi for 31 years...it's grown a lot...great people and place.

My daughter and son-in-law really like Texas. They lived in Dallas area for 2 years and have been in Houston for 4. I wish David was going to Med school there. He is going to Glendale AZ! He says there are 39 students from the Y and all are married! Darn!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.130.000.000.002.13

74F, 94% humidity, wind WSW 3 mph and clear.  Great morning for running, finally.  I'm back in Houston and I decided to try out the ankle.  It was a little bit sore walking around in bare feet, but once I got my shoes on and loosened up for about a quarter mile it was OK.  I ran gradually faster throughout, 2.13 miles in 21:07, average pace 9:56, splits 10:54, 9:04 and 1:10 (9:08).  Heel felt pretty good for the most part, but I won't know much until I see how I make it through the day.  I felt pretty winded doing this run, but I am pretty sure I haven't lost a lot of conditioning in only two weeks.

The load in my truck made it back to Houston just fine, it looks identical to when we left, but is now safely parked in my own garage.  And no conversations with the good men and women in uniform patrolling the highways of Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas.  I admire them greatly, but I prefer to let them do their job and me mine.  Drove a total of 2,830 miles in 4 days, about the same as a good Saturday for Crockett.

Comments
From Stephen on Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:01:04 from 204.182.3.235

Nice packing job! Maybe driving is a better way to log the miles.

From Smooth on Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:56:08 from 174.23.203.161

That is a LONG haul! Not bad packing all that load and made it safely home without a visit from the highway patrol. There's a stretch in New Mexico that gets unsuspecting motorists all the time. We've made a road trip to Dallas once and never do that again.

Glad the heel/ankle is healing. I am sure you have not lost much fitness. Just ease back into it. Have a great week!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:39:32 from 84.11.148.246

Good to see a couple miles in the books. But really good to see you and the cargo arrived safe and sound!

From Rye on Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 14:11:49 from 174.27.21.67

That is alot of mileage! Who helped you pack, that is certainly not a mans job!

From jasro on Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 15:56:05 from 198.50.4.4

Glad you made it back safe and sound.

From Burt on Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 16:53:25 from 206.19.214.144

Hoo doggy! That's a lot of driving!

From Kam on Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 17:19:29 from 68.66.163.179

I liked your line about Crockett. What an animal. It looks like you are steadily progressing toward your BQ. About the lay-off, my understanding is that you have 2-3 weeks before your cardiovascular fitness level begins to deteriorate.

From flatlander on Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:37:16 from 198.207.244.102

Stephen, let's check race rules, I bet none of them say "no motorized vehicles".

Smooth, funny thing, I have never had any trouble in New Mexico. Would like to know what stretch you were on so I can be more careful. Utah and Texas are both well covered and enforcement is aggressive.

Joe, Jason and Burt, thanks, feeling a little better every day.

Rye, thank you, I think. It is my inner homemaker coming out.

Kam, thanks for checking in. My low heart rate speed this morning was slower, so I am guessing I lost a little conditioning. I shut it down completely, no elliptical or any other cross training, felt like I had to do it to get past this thing. Hopefully it worked, and if so I am not too worried about getting back to where I was.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.060.000.000.004.06

78F, 93% humidity, calm and clear.  Good running weather this morning.  Ran 4.06 miles in 47:40, average pace 11:44, low heart rate, regular shoes.  Foot felt pretty bad to start and not that good throughout, though I didn't have much trouble running.  Every once in a while it would feel like the strength was gone for a couple of steps.  Kind of worried, but when I got back to the house and walked around for a while it didn't hurt like it did yesterday.  Maybe a slow slog is just what the doctor ordered.  It is almost noon now, and still no pain or stiffness, so maybe I have turned the corner.  If so that is exciting, I think there is still time enough to get a BQ in Hartford in October.

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From Smooth on Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 15:24:09 from 174.23.203.161

That is good news! Sounds like you're heading in the right direction.

GOOD LUCK with your BQ goal at Hartford!

From derhammer on Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 18:11:00 from 192.156.110.31

Sounds very tentative - just keep going nice and easy like you are. Hopefully you will be back to full speed soon.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.170.000.000.006.17

80F, 85% humidity, cloudy, wind WNW at 3 mph.  Beautiful day for running.  Ran 6.17 in 1:13:33, average pace 11:55 per mile, low heart rate, regular shoes.  I would ordinarily be griping about the slow time, but I am in awe about my ankle pain disappearing completely during the day yesterday.  After the run it didn't stiffen up, and I walked around all day with zero pain, and again during the run today there was no "warmup" to get going, it was good to go from the first step.  I am so happy I don't even care that I am obviously out of shape.

Headed to the airport in a few minutes, back to Utah for my son and daughter-in-law's graduation from BYU.  He drove down with me to Houston over the weekend for his white coat ceremony at the medical school here in town, now back to Utah to finish up there.  We will be back here on Saturday and it may be a while before I come to Utah again, unless I do some more races there.  With all the issues we have with a couple of our kids, it was nice to sit in the ceremony yesterday as they welcomed the entering class into the medical school.  This kid has it together -- the best missionary I ever saw, studied hard in school, married a wonderful wife and getting on with his life.  (Now if he could just keep track of his car keys.)  It gives us hope for the others.  One thing for sure, you can't take credit for the successes of your kids unless you take responsibility for their failures too, and I ain't signin' up for that one.  I'm just a spectator with a checkbook.

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From SlowJoe on Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:02:05 from 84.11.148.246

Good news all around. Magic ankle, kid "off the books" and succeeding. Bet the fitness comes back pretty quickly as well. Seems like plenty of time to go for that BQ in a couple months.

From Stephen on Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:10:20 from 204.182.3.235

That's great news about your ankle! I can relate with "spectator with a checkbook."

Brian and Amy Thurber are both graduating from BYU today at 4:00. We plan to meet up with them there. Not sure about your plans in Utah, but it would be nice to see you again.

From baldnspicy on Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 19:39:50 from 72.77.119.73

Congrats on the ankle & your son. That's so awesome!! Rock on!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.010.000.000.008.01

86F, 78% humidity, wind S. 8 mph.  Clear night out, went out late after returning from Utah, as it turned out to be impossible to get any running done with everything else going on there.  Ran 8.01 in 1:16:12, 9:31 per mile, regular shoes.  This was a difficult run, my body does not like running late in the day.  It was hot, but I got it done, no issues with my feet.

Graduation at BYU was a fun, superb weather.  Got out of my car in the visitor lot and my brother pulled in right behind me from Virginia.  His daughter was graduating and I didn't know it.  No issues in my family, just bad communication skills.  Some would call that an issue, but I just call it bad communication.  Counting my son and his wife, we had four members of the family graduating.  My nephew who lives in Orem (I knew he was graduating, thank you) graduated way high in his class.  It was his brother who placed way high in London's Run in Arizona last February.  Something about that family, maybe the mountain air.  (His dad, my brother, blogs on here as Stephen and is getting ready for his first marathon, TOU.)  Here is the happy quartet.

Son, daughter-in-law, niece and nephew.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.040.000.000.008.04

80F, 88% humidity, wind W 3mph.  Ran 8.04 in 1:37:46, average pace 12:09, low heart rate  Bleh.  Something has happened to my conditioning, or else the few extra degrees of heat make it disproportionately more difficult, certainly possible.  I'll just make do, but today felt like the wrong direction.  At least it won't get any hotter, I am pretty sure.  Every year about this time, as I look at 8 more weeks of heat, I promise to move out of Texas, but I always stay.  It has an economy and a lot of really nice people, so some other things we just put up with.

Yesterday we moved my son into his apartment and this morning he started medical school.  Life happens quickly.

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From Smooth on Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 00:43:17 from 174.23.203.161

WAY to get'er done!

My daughter says the same thing about TX!

So proud of your son...first year med school...very exciting!

Are your daughter-in-law's grandparents Taylor and Darlene Mortensen? They're in our stake...lived about 1/2 mile from my house. Small world!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:57:51 from 84.11.148.246

Welcome back. Hopefully all this training in heat and humidity will make running in New England a breeze.

From flatlander on Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:49:17 from 198.207.244.102

Smooth, yes, that's them, I stayed at their house! I have never met them since they are out of the country, but their neighbors love them and are very protective of the house. I tried to lose my Texas accent when they came over to see what I was doing. I must have been staying very close to your house.

Joe, thanks. There better be a payoff, but if there isn't I'm not sure what I can do about it. I think there will be. I got a good payoff last year.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.320.000.000.009.32

75F, 100% humidity, calm and cloudy.  Great running weather, a tad humid.  Ran 9.32 miles in 1:29:42, average pace 9:38/mile, regular shoes.  Object was to see how fast I could go at a 160 heart rate.  I warmed up two miles then sped up.  My fastest mile was mile 4, 8:47, heart rate 155, then it climbed quickly, I ended up finishing in the 175-180 range.  I planned on 10 but stopped immediately well into my last mile when I felt a twinge in my ankle.  There appears to be no consequences, everything is good.  But I felt fine even at that high of a heart rate.  I think in cooler weather I might feel much more fatigue at that high of a heart rate.  Interesting stuff.  Happy with the run, but hoping to do better.  Last year I got a big pop in speed when I got out of the heat to run the marathon, I am hoping that happens this year as well.  If I can run 20 miles at a 9 flat pace I should have a good chance of hitting my goal.

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From Rye on Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:40:28 from 174.27.77.167

Great to see those miles again!

From baldnspicy on Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 16:12:17 from 72.77.65.69

That humidity is a killer, eh? Ours has been high, but you're beating us. Great mileage!

From flatlander on Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:02:12 from 75.247.247.243

Thanks guys. The heat gives me something to complain about, so I am never happier than in the summer months around here.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.090.000.000.0010.09

81F, 89% humidity, wind SW 6 mph.  Nice crisp morning.  Ran 10.09 miles in 1:59:40, average pace 11:52 per mile, low heart rate.  This run was better than Monday's at 12:09 per mile, and I controlled my heart rate better.  Still, it was interesting how the speed dropped dramatically after 4 miles -- today my fastest mile was 10:59 and slowest was 12:35.  It doesn't do that at normal temperatures, where I can hold a steady heart rate and speed for much longer.  I am going to try a few miles in my flat shoes tomorrow, there is potential there and I need to get into shape to wear them consistently.  Right now I am running a little bit in the dark, both literally and figuratively, because I don't have anything to measure progress against.  Definitely low heart rate measuring sticks are out the window, they change every time it gets a couple of degrees warmer outside.  Running fast is one way to combat it, feels like there is improvement there, but there have been enough injuries this year that I am afraid to do it too much.  So bottom line I won't really know until things cool down how much benefit I got out of running this summer.  It's OK, just an interesting process.

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From Smooth on Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:09:15 from 174.23.203.161

I don't do well running in heat and humidity. I noticed when I ran in Houston and it was in Nov. my pace was 1 min. slower than running here in Utah. And I wasn't running in the dark. It was on the Greenbelt trail, flat concrete.

Anyhow! when it gets really warm here, I run on the TM. I'm a wimp!

NICE to see you ramping up the mileage again!

From Burt on Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 14:17:39 from 206.19.214.144

Maybe Bonnie can help you figure it out. She's a statistics professor.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 07:07:48 from 214.13.130.104

Well, like you said, only 2 more months of summer! So in the heat now, you are still going to run at the same heart rate regardless of what your pace is showing? I'm wondering if I should sort of do that too - I hate the slow paces but do not want to suffer every day trying to maintain (what used to be) easy-run pace. Then maybe do fast running on a TM to keep the legs in shape...

From flatlander on Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:58:53 from 198.207.244.102

Smooth, interesting comment. I have been thinking that the heat is more of a problem than altitude, even though altitude is challenging for me. So that is an interesting experiment you did.

Burt, does she have a minor in psychology?

Joe, I admit it is difficult to keep the heart rate down in the heat. I run slow enough already. But it is only a little while longer and I still feel tired after the run, so I think it is doing me good. Your plan sounds like a good one, especially now that you are such good friends with your favorite TM. Did it cop an attitude when you ran outside yesterday?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.180.003.000.0010.18

78F, 91% humidity, wind SW 4 mph, partly cloudy.  Nice morning for running.  I started a little bit later because I had to get out some work.  I met a neighbor, who is a runner, yesterday morning and she mentioned that it is cooler at sunrise than an hour before.  I would have known that if I had thought about it but just hadn't ever considered that before.  So I wasn't worried about starting a half-hour late.  I ran 4 warmup miles, two in regular shoes and two in flat shoes, all at low heart rate, then put regular shoes back on and they felt like work boots.  I then ran 3 miles at about a 7:55 pace, maximum heart rate 186.  Was hoping to do six at that pace but happy to get three, it was a complex but successful run. 

I'll get to six soon, barring injury, knock on my bald head.  If I can run six at 7:45 that translates to 3:45:30 for a marathon, so that would give me enough cushion to feel comfortable about a BQ in October in cooler temperatures.  Also, if I can lose 5 more pounds that should help a lot -- after 35 pounds I still have a modest layer of fat on my torso.  Don't see how I could run much at all back at 200 pounds. 

After the 3 fast miles I slogged it in for 3 more miles at a consistent 160 bpm, which translated to a steady 10:20 pace.  I don't think 160 is my long-term target heart rate, I felt like I could go forever at that pace. I may find that I can cover the marathon distance at 165, creeping up to 175 and even 180 toward the end.  Still experimenting.  Overall this morning I ran 10.18 miles in 1:43:35, average pace 10:11 per mile.

The other interesting thing, I was reminded this morning that I feel very different after a run that includes high heart rate.  More invigorated than tired.  I think the difference in my body's reaction shows that running slow works on a different system than running fast.  Hard to explain, but after a fast run the endorphins hang around longer, whereas there is a certain deep but low-level fatigue that hangs around for a while after running a couple of hours at low heart rate.  I look at it as a validation of the theory that you should run your slow runs slow and your fast runs fast.  Running in between is fine too, of course, and I do it a lot, but it might be the case that the most benefit is at the extremes of the spectrum, if your legs can handle it.  Good stuff for nerds like me.

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From lightitup on Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 13:03:18 from 166.205.11.13

I did my first run today, after six weeks off. Average pace was 13:00. :) I am way out of shape. My iPhone would only play "Abide with Me, Tis Eventide".

From Rye on Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 09:35:14 from 71.209.43.194

It's too bad we can't handle the fast runs on a daily schedule...Love those endorphins...seems like most serious runners fall into that geek, nerd thing. Hope that we are all in good company.

From flatlander on Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:44:06 from 198.207.244.102

E, have to ask, was it twilight when you ran? Maybe your phone is smarter than you knew? Glad you are back out.

Rye, working on that one. It seems like if we can get to the point of running a certain amount every day, then we ought to be able to gradually withstand more speed. Hard to know, though.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.200.000.000.0010.20

80F, 90% humidity, wind S 8 mph, clear.  Felt good out there this morning.  Ran 10.20 miles in 2:00:35, average pace 11:50/mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.  Wanted to do a whole run in flat shoes and see how my right heel held up.  Giving it a B+, looks like I will be OK but it isn't ready for prime time yet.  The other good thing was that even though it was about the same speed as Wednesday, the pace at the same heart rate stayed steady throughout.  Almost every mile was in the 11:45 to 12:00 slot.

As an experiment, I weighed myself just before I went out and as soon as I got back, before eating anything or catching up on liquids.  I lost 5 pounds net -- including a half liter bottle of water that I took with me and drank, a total of 6 pounds of sweat in 2 hours.  I had no idea, kind of scary in a way.  I have seen some numbers on what is safe, but I can't remember what they are.  If I don't feel bad I must be OK, but that is a lot of weight loss for 2 hours of running.  My guess is that a similar run at 50F would only cost me a pound.

Going long tomorrow, part of it with the group.  They are running 6 but my friend Wade and I plan to do 18.

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From KP on Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:46:51 from 65.208.22.26

good luck with your 18 tomorrow! interesting on the weight-loss. i should try that.

From lightitup on Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 13:53:50 from 166.205.11.243

Good luck tomorrow! I'll be thinking of you from Omaha.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:27:26 from 84.11.148.246

That sticky Houston goo really drains a guy doesn't it. I guess the group is up to 6 miles now, huh? That's not even a warmup for you.

From flatlander on Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:23:25 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks guys. Joe, it's funny, after you have run two or three thousand miles, even slowly, you suddenly find yourself faster than a lot of other runners. One runner today was wearing a shirt that said "It's rude to count the people you pass -- out loud." I think I am a little guilty of that.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.950.000.000.0016.95

80F, 87% humidity, calm and clear.  Beautiful morning for running.  Met Wade at the Y at 5:00 and ran 9 with the early group, then went out with the late group.  They were running 6 and we planned to run 9, but only got 8.  My friend has been running outside only on Saturday and this was his longest run since March.  So even though he is a faster runner than me, today I had more in the heat.  We kept a 10-minute pace through the first 9, but the "back 9" was slower.  He was feeling it pretty badly at 14 miles and we walked most of a mile before jogging in the remainder.  He said he felt as bad as mile 23 of the marathon we ran together on new years day, which got me pretty worried.  The heat can sneak up on you very quickly.  On that day he beat me by about 15 minutes then started throwing up, pretty bad shape.  This morning he laid down on a picnic table when we got in, I poured water over him and in about 30 minutes he was OK.  Altogether we ran 16.95 miles in 3:03:25, average pace 10:49.   Heart rate never got above 162, and averaged 147.  This was not a goal workout for me, but it was good to see that I have been getting some benefit from running outside all summer, and I managed to keep it easy for the benefit of my right foot.  Today I don't feel much different than a regular weekday run.  Ideally, I would be able to do a Saturday long run with the first half at 9:30 and the second half at 8:30.  I can see that I cannot do every Saturday with this group.  My methods and goals are not fully compatible.  It is nice to meet other runners, but most of my progress happens when I run alone.  Today was fine, though, honestly I needed to take it easy on my foot, which responded fine.

Can't wait to read all the race reports today.

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From Smooth on Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:20:43 from 174.23.203.161

WAY to tough out the heat and stay with your friend! When the temp drops you will really fly! Smart to monitor the run with HR and take it easy on the foot. All these miles and heat training will pay off. Keep up the good work my friend.

I haven't signed up for the TX Marathon on New Year's Day. Wonder if it's already full. Just don't know if I should be away from hubby for the whole month of Jan since my daughter's due date is Jan 30. Hmmm...just thinking out loud!

From flatlander on Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:29:13 from 198.207.244.102

Smooth, thanks for the encouragement. The Texas Marathon is full, but he keeps a standby list. I put my 13-year old daughter on it just a few days ago for the half marathon (she is going to try her first one) and Steve told me that he is pretty sure she will get in. So if you still want to do it you have time. Would love to have you down here, but I certainly understand the scheduling issues, most important thing is to support your daughter. Steve won't take your money until you get in, and if you decide to pull out, at least a couple of weeks in advance of the race, he will give it back. He is very accommodating.

From Smooth on Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:34:27 from 174.23.203.161

Thanks for the info. They seem like great RDs. I will talk it over with hubby. I have always wanted to run that one and this seems to be the perfect year to do it. I also hope to watch the Olympic Trials at Houston. If I weren't so strict about not running on Sunday, I'd love to do the Houston Marathon!

From flatlander on Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:44:31 from 198.207.244.102

Yeah, I definitely have my eye on the Olympic Trials, can't believe our luck having it here in Houston. I hope several FRB bloggers qualify, but I just noticed that one of the prime ones, Lindsey Dunkley, is retiring. There are some others, though, and I hope to be able to help out if they come.

Speaking of Sunday running, the Texas Marathon is always on January 1, so it falls on Sunday in 2012. I will be looking for an alternative but I'm sure something will turn up.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.007.000.000.0010.00

78F, 91% humidity, wind WSW 3 mph, completely clear.  Very nice morning for running, didn't feel that hot today, maybe because the humidity was under 95%, doesn't seem possible.  I ran 10.00 miles in 1:29:56, average pace 8:59 per mile, flat shoes.  First three were at low heart rate, average pace 10:40, then I ran the last 7 at marathon pace, actually a little bit faster, 8:15 per mile average.  I intended to do a slow run today but had to get done in time to take my daughter to the bus stop, today is the first day of school.  Plus I didn't work that hard on Saturday, so there was really no reason to hold back.  Feet and heels seem fine, so no harm done.  All the other parents gathered at the bus stop but not me, I just dropped her off and went home, I must be a bad parent.  She was fine with it, though.  8th grade now and targeting early HS graduation, so she isn't my little girl anymore, even though she will always be the youngest.

I looked at the wear patterns on my flat shoes.  They have very thin soles but have held up fine for several hundred miles, it is the uppers that are tattering.  Left and right have about the same pattern, most of the wear is on the balls of the foot and toward the outside, which is good.  I don't know why the heel wears, though, I don't feel like I come down on it, but I must be.  I think I was doing that more early on.  I like these shoes and I'll probably get a new pair soon -- I wonder if the new ones will wear the same way. 

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From SlowJoe on Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:14:38 from 214.13.130.104

Nice run, Flat. That's a nice long marathon tempo push.

I thought for a long time that I landed mid-sole because that's what it felt like; then I saw some pictures from a race where I was obviously coming down on my heels first - photographic evidence!

From flatlander on Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:52:47 from 198.207.244.102

Yeah, I feel the same way. I was paying attention this morning, and I feel like I am not landing on my heels even in regular shoes, but obviously I must be to some extent.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.120.000.000.0010.12

75F, 94% humidity, calm.  Very nice running weather.  Ran 10.12 miles in 1:52:56, 11:10 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  Trying to give my ankles, calves and feet a break from yesterday's fast run in flat shoes.  That is the killer, but the flat shoes are faster and I want to work up to using them most of the time.  Was sore for a couple of miles but then it went mostly away.  Today's pace was quite a bit faster than last week's low heart rate pace, by more than 40 seconds per mile.  I seem to go through cycles on this.  My feet are feeling a little funny today.  I hope they are OK, will know more in the morning, time for bed now though.

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From lightitup on Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 23:48:50 from 166.137.140.202

I hope you wake up to happy feet!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.190.000.000.0010.19

73F, 97% humidity, clear and calm.  Nice running under the full moon then the rising sun, love these kinds of runs.  10.19 in 1:54:49, average pace 11:16 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes, a little slower than yesterday for some reason, but OK.  Pretty uneventful, which was what I was hoping for, no further heel and calf issues and didn't feel a need for ice after the run.  I'll know more as the day progresses.  I ran through the next neighborhood down to mix things up a little bit, nice to get a change of scenery. 

My runs are starting later right now because I have to take my daughter to volleyball tryouts.  I am worried, she is on the cusp and will be bummed if she doesn't make the team.  Of course, she isn't at her best when she is under scrutiny.  The coach is keeping statistics on everything and it is distracting to a 13-year old who knows nothing about performing under pressure, not sure I do either.

73F is as cool as it has been in a while.  Saturday is forecast the same, except the humidity is projected at 83%.  Hope my nose doesn't dry out and my skin peel.  Could be a nice long run this week-end.  Must be getting cold in Utah by now?

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From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 13:41:03 from 214.13.130.104

Nice run and temp's - I read somewhere on the internet (so you know it's true) that your heart beats faster (progressively so) when running in anything over 60F, if that makes any sense. So you still have 13 degrees of HR-pace improvement from weather alone. Although I guess your fitness will increase as well over time, sacrificing the control in the experiment.

From Rye on Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 16:04:23 from 71.209.13.147

Don't know about Utah but in Idaho the last couple of mornings have been a little nippy.......38f two mornings ago

From baldnspicy on Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 23:09:02 from 72.77.116.121

Beautiful runs this week! I love the mileage! Cool weather is so nice!

From flatlander on Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 13:27:17 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, I have read that too. The thing I was wondering about this morning is whether I am practicing running in the heat (great if I get to a hot marathon somewhere) or if I am actually improving, so that when I step out of the "steam room" in October I will be faster than when I went in in June. My guess is I will be a little faster but not as fast as if I had run fast all summer in cool weather. We'll see.

Rye, amazing, I very seldom see those temperatures here even in February.

Wes, thanks. Btw, the 'Stros and the Pirates are spoilers now, and both seem to be doing their job quite well.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.003.000.0010.00

73F, 80% humidity, wind NNE 4 mph, clear and cold.  Moon is still out, great morning for running.  I ran 10.00 miles in 1:35:52, average pace 9:35 per mile overall, regular shoes.  Warmed up for 3 miles, then had designs on a 10K at 7:45 per mile.  In the heat and regular shoes, my 10K quickly turned into a 5K, heart rate was up around 184 so I didn't try to push it further.  The three fast miles were 7:37, 7:44 and 7:38, average pace about 7:40, which was faster than the 5K race I did in March, not a lot faster but still. . . .  The magic threshold for me is to get 10K at 7:45 in the heat, don't know if that will happen but if it does I should be ready for Hartford.  I then cooled down for about a mile and a half then took my heart rate back up to 160 for the rest of the run (about 9:30 pace at that point), finishing the 10 right at my doorstep.  Good run, would have liked to finish the whole 10K but this was OK.

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From Burt on Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 14:01:28 from 206.19.214.144

Those are some fast miles.

From Smooth on Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 15:34:03 from 174.23.203.161

WOW! EXCELLENT run! NICE FAST miles! Funny how 73F is cool for you, it's still too warm for me. No way I could run that kinda pace in that heat.

AWESOME mileage and pace. Looking good for Hartford!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 01:08:35 from 109.70.68.174

Good tempo there. In New England temps (or Abilene humidity) you'd have make it 10k.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

69F, 84% humidity, calm at start, 71F, 70% humidity, wind NNE 5 mph at end, clear.  Great morning for running, a little frigid.  Cannot believe how much difference these temperatures make.  69F is only 4 degrees below normal for this date, but I have been running this month mostly at 5-8 degrees above normal, with humidity levels near 100%.  I could tell immediately that I was in a different gear.  I ran 10.25 miles in 1:47:00, average pace 10:27 per mile, just 3 seconds off my fastest low heart rate run on April 16 of this year.  My best split was 10:02, which is the fastest I have done.  I ran the first half in regular shoes, last mile already up to 10:32, then switched to flat shoes and the pace quickened considerably even though it was the second half of the run.  I got the 10:02 in mile 7.  Not sure how long this will last, summer is not over here for six more weeks, but any further heat waves will be of lesser duration I believe.

My neighbors were out in droves this morning, everybody was out walking or running.  I think everybody is like me.  They see somebody running and think I can do that.  Then when a good morning rolls around like this they call their buddies, strap on shoes and head out.  It was great, almost more runners and walkers than cars.  Even the dogs were in a good mood.  This is how Fridays were meant to be.

Comments
From Burt on Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:17:56 from 206.19.214.144

Everyone wants to be like you.

From KP on Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:19:26 from 65.208.22.25

happy friday!

From Stephen on Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 14:42:12 from 204.182.3.235

That is a very encouraging report from frigid Houston! How low do you have to keep your heart rate for low heart rate training? By now, you must have a feel for what it feels like without constantly looking at your heart rate monitor.

From lightitup on Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 16:32:24 from 166.205.143.203

Good stuff. Does Stephen have a blog? I'm going to go look for it.

From Burt on Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 16:34:23 from 206.19.214.144

Hi lightitup! Long time no see.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 17:07:47 from 214.13.130.104

Wow what a difference. Looks like you had "it" today with an assist from the icy cold temperature. Nice run.

From flatlander on Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 12:45:56 from 76.31.26.153

Burt, if only they knew.

KP, thanks, love all the running you have been doing with friends lately.

Stephen, the rule of thumb is 180 minus age, and you get to add 5 if you are in good shape. So I started out when I was 53 running 127-132. I still try to stay in that range even though I am two years older now.

E, yes, your brother has a blog. You should check it out.

Joe, thanks, it was one of those perfect days.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
20.000.000.000.0020.00

71F, 80% humidity, wind NW 5 mph.  Another great morning to run.  Went to a new neighborhood about 10 miles away with my friend Wade and we ran 20.00 miles with several groups on a combined run, 3:07:58, 9:24 per mile average pace, regular shoes.  The group only ran 18, so we hung out for a while after we finished until Wade's brother and sister-in-law came in.  She has run one marathon and is registered for St. George with Wade.  She said she wouldn't run St. George if she couldn't get 20 today.  She was sky-high when she came in and wanted to do two more to get a full 20, so out we went.  She ran 5:05 in her first marathon and is looking to blast that one out of the water.  Up until that time we had an average pace of 9:19, so that gives you an idea of how well we did on the last two, very stiff when we got up to run again.  Wade cratered last week on a hotter day, when we ran about 17 at 10:49 pace, so he was sky-high as well.  He kept up with me every step of the way and had a lower heart rate, so he is back in the saddle.  My own plan was to do half of the run at 9:30 then the second half at 8:30, but we were in a strange neighborhood and didn't know our way around, so we had to hang around other runners.  I don't think Wade quite wanted to run that fast anyway, and it is up for debate whether I could have finished the run at that speed.  I had a little bit left, though, maximum heart rate was 172.  Maybe next week.  I am thinking I need to get a little bit better to get my BQ in Hartford.

We found ourselves running for most of the time with a solid, beefy, young guy.  Turns out he played football for TCU until 2007.  Had a fun conversation about the Mountain West.  He thinks BYU should stay in and it is looking like that is what will happen, if you believe the leaks coming out of Denver.  Probably for the best but they have to fix that TV contract.  BYU fans everywhere need to be able to see the games, it is our constitutional right, or at least it could be.

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From Smooth on Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 12:41:15 from 174.23.218.17

NICE HR and pace for 20 miler. Looks like you paced Wade and his sil very well. You will do AWESOME at Hartford.

I agree with our constitutional right...GO COUGARS!!!!

From Burt on Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 12:42:27 from 68.225.214.248

Man alive, you're a great runner!

From baldnspicy on Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 13:42:37 from 72.77.116.121

Killer mileage this week, Flat! I'm impressed and your 20 miler sounded divine...to read. :-) Great job!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 01:12:11 from 214.13.130.104

Wow, that's a really impressive pace for 20 miles. You have made some solid gains for sure, can't attribute all that to a few degrees of cooling, in my opinion. Nice job.

From Kelli on Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 19:42:15 from 71.219.102.155

Sounds like everyone was Sky High.

Hmmm....now about that BYU....

From derhammer on Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:04:39 from 192.156.110.32

Great run! You should be fine if you get a nice cool morning in the 40's or 50's at Hartford. Looks like the course has quite a few turns - remember to run the tangents.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.860.000.000.000.86

 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.420.000.000.005.42

75F, 100% humidity, calm and clear.  Beautiful morning, glad it finally warmed up again.  Ran 5.42 miles in 1:01:01, average pace 11:15 per mile, mostly low heart rate and regular shoes.  I pulled my other groin muscle yesterday less than a mile into the run, so sudden that I stopped in about 3 steps.  Iced it down and kept moving all day and had the ability this morning to run a little bit, could not run any faster though.  Iced it again today and hopefully things will work out so that this is minor.  Don't really have any possible use for an injury right now.

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From SlowJoe on Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 12:00:25 from 214.13.130.104

Well said in your last sentence. Let us know how you're coming along.

From Rye on Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 13:38:45 from 71.209.13.147

Kind of wondered about the .86 miles....Hope the recovery goes well. Ice is a wonderful friend! In the right spots...

From baldnspicy on Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 22:39:41 from 72.77.116.121

There might be a market for that injury on Craigslist. I'll check it and let you know. Great job in the 100% humidity!

From flatlander on Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 22:51:09 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, thanks for the encouragement. Things are reasonably good for the moment.

Rye, in the right spots, hmmm.

Bald, you come up with the best ideas sometimes. Hope all is well.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.085.000.000.0010.08

76F, 97% humidity, wind NE 1 mph, clear.  Good running weather this morning.  Ran 10.08 miles in 1:36:20, average pace 9:36/mile, regular shoes.  Went to bed with a low grade fever last night and woke up with a sore throat.  I think it affected my endurance, but the run seemed to flush the flu out of my system and I felt mostly OK today.  Ran three warmup miles, then 5 miles at marathon pace, 8:38, 8:21, 8:36, 8:45 and 8:37 then cooled down with two more.  My heart rate was up to 176 on the MP miles, so I had a little bit left in the tank but didn't want to push it, and I am plenty tired tonight anyway.  Warmed up and cooled down very gently, nursing my groin, it seemed to hold up pretty well during the faster miles.  It has felt stiff today but with a night's rest it should be good to go again in the morning.  Looks like the weather is going to let up a little bit again this weekend, back down to low 70s, but not sure of humidity.

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From Rye on Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 11:48:17 from 71.209.13.147

I have always said that running will fix anything. My family gets a little sick of that.....My daughter says that it hasn't helped her with math.

From Smooth on Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 16:00:59 from 174.23.218.17

I agree running almost cures all!

GREAT run and marathon pace miles there! Hope the good weather stays for ya!

From flatlander on Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 09:50:12 from 76.31.26.153

Rye, my guess is that it really has helped her, she just can't give you the satisfaction.

Smooth, someday I should write a book about this, but the world doesn't really need another running book. The side benefits of running are worth almost as much as getting more fit and faster, maybe more so.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.736.000.000.007.73

76F, 95% humidity, wind E 1 mph.  Clear and calm, nice weather.  Ran 7.73 miles in 1:08:53, average overall pace 8:55/mile, regular shoes.  Warmed up 1 mile then ran 6 at marathon pace, 8:30 (150), 8:23 (160), 8:23 (167), 8:33 (169), 8:18 (175), 8:13 (180), maximum heart rate 184, so 1 mile further than yesterday and faster average pace (8:24) in about the same conditions.  Ran about 3/4 mile cooldown, had to quit early because of schedule issues.  I have been sitting in conference rooms all day long without much chance to move around, makes me very stiff.  I woke up this morning with a sore back, could hardly move.  Went through my stretching sequence for my back and realized in the process that my groin was still improving despite running fast yesterday.  Actually felt better running than walking around, so I ran fast again today and have been sore all day.

My client walked in today with a cup that had brown foam on the top.  I asked him if it was a root beer float.  He said no, it was frappa-whappa something or other.  That was embarrassing, but I really wanted a float.  We are done with  the meetings now and everybody is happy, hoping for an easy day tomorrow, easing into a long weekend.

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From Burt on Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 09:33:30 from 68.225.214.248

Did somebody say root beer float?

From flatlander on Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 09:46:06 from 76.31.26.153

I know, aren't they great? I walked into KFC the other day and found out they are joined up with A&W. They gave me fried chicken and a root beer float in a tall, frosty glass mug. I didn't want to leave, ever.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.220.000.000.0011.22

77F, 97% humidity, wind calm, partly cloudy, rain moving in, will be cooler in the morning.  Perfect running weather out there this morning.  Ran 11.22 miles in 2:00:15, average pace 10:43 per mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.  Ran hard yesterday and again tomorrow, so this morning was a chance to get some miles on my flat shoes.  It worked pretty well, feet, ankles and calves tired but doing fine.  Pretty happy with a 10:43 average in these conditions.  The main after-effect of running hard is cramping.  I got a mega-cramp yesterday sitting in a conference room, taking comments on a construction contract and entering them on my laptop.  It wasn't really a situation where it was appropriate to scream, even though the other side made me want to vocalize for other reasons.  So I just smiled, calmly offered a couple of constructive comments, typed away and slowly died inside from the pain.  It was a long one too, took a couple of minutes for my hamstring to relax, what a relief when it finally did.

My wife was awake when I got up this morning.  She said our daughter came in late last night, a day early.  She goes to college in San Marcos and turns 21 on Monday.  This girl has had a lot of ups and downs, she makes me mad pretty often, but my heart goes out to her more than any other kid.  So vulnerable and sweet, so unsteady.  Looking forward to a nice holiday weekend with the family, hope y'all are too.

 

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From baldnspicy on Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 10:15:56 from 167.164.3.140

Hey Flat, nice run! Cramping is no fun especially if you can't yell out some choice words. :-)

Hope your weekend is great, especially with your daughter at home. Kids are blessings even when they have to make their own mistakes. I continue to make plenty.

From Burt on Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 00:47:20 from 68.225.214.248

Yikes! Killer cramp!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 04:34:06 from 214.13.130.104

Nice cramp story! I've never had one in the hammy but I can imagine it's really painful, very impressive.

I almost went to Texas State too, after I basically flunked out of UT, but they wait-listed me due to my low college GPA (I never went to class and stayed drunk a lot while in Austin, made many mistakes, etc.). So I went to SFA. It was right around age 21 when I got my act together and got serious about school. Ended up doing great the rest of the way, so maybe there are more ups than downs in store for your daughter. Anyway, enjoy the visit and the long weekend!

From Rye on Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 11:56:28 from 71.209.13.147

Life and its battles. Have a great visit and even better weekend and great job roughing it out with some dignity!

From flatlander on Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 14:13:43 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks for the encouragement, guys. I very much enjoy reading your blogs.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.009.020.000.0020.02

73F, 91% humidity at start, 74F, 87% humidity at end, wind calm then N 5 mph.  Wonderful running weather, although admittedly we were planning on high 60s with low humidity.  That system is still trying to move in but it didn't arrive in time for our run.  But we were warriors and gutted it out. 

Ran 2 miles to my friend Wade's house then drove to the Y to run with the early, early group.  They started at 4:45 and were doing 20 but Wade only wanted to do 15, which I was fine with me because I wanted to run the first half MP + 1 and the second half closer to MP, wasn't sure I could pull that off for a full 20.  We ran about 9:30 for the first half and 8:30 to 9:00 for the second half.  We averaged 9:05 for the 15 miles, faster than our 9:19 last week in cooler air.  Then drove back to Wade's house and I ran back home plus another mile.  Very stiff to start from his house but loosened up and ran the last mile in 8:30, didn't know I could do that.  I think running a lot at MP this past week has helped, I feel stronger.  Overall I ran 20.03 miles in 3:03:49, average pace 9:13 per mile, regular shoes.  All systems are go, no lurking injuries that I know about.  I have two more long runs before starting my taper.

Not a 70-mile week, but a miracle to get this many hard miles this week considering where I was on Monday.  My son called me "Wolverine".  He said that is the guy on Ninja Turtles who transforms himself out of every injury, or something like that.  I don't know this stuff.  I seem to get hurt a lot, I think it is a function of age or wimpiness, but happy to be able to recover quickly, I'll take what I can get.

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From SlowJoe on Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 01:28:08 from 214.13.130.104

Another impressive Saturday, and you still have about a month to go, right? Good news about your lack of injury as well.

From lightitup on Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 15:33:26 from 166.205.143.77

Wow! Great job. Now if you can do the hardest part, taper well, you will BQ!

From baldnspicy on Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 21:00:14 from 72.77.116.121

Beautiful! 20 miles, great pace. You're gonna rock it! Great job, Flat.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.020.000.000.0010.02

74F, 91% humidity, calm.  Beautiful morning for running, a sliver of moon peeking through some morning cloud cover just ahead of the rising sun.  Today is a holiday, so met at the YMCA again with Wade for 10.  Went 10.02 miles in 1:29:25, average pace 8:56 per mile, flat shoes.  Most interesting thing was my heart rate, which never broke 160 despite our running 10 seconds faster than Saturday, even more interesting because Wade was getting close to 170 and he was 10 beats lower than me on Saturday.  The only explanation is the flat shoes, definitely gonna run Hartford in these.  I estimate they are about 20 seconds per mile faster than regular shoes and this run seemed to confirm that.  Good stuff, but mainly I am thankful to be running without injury.  Happy Labor Day.

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From Rye on Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 15:42:01 from 97.121.19.221

Injury free is always the best!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 01:00:34 from 214.13.130.104

Interesting about the flip-flopping HRs between you and Wade. Makes me want to try some flat shoes! Nice that you were under 9 m/m at a relatively low HR. Good run.

From flatlander on Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 18:32:46 from 76.31.26.153

Rye, I'm exhibit A on that one. It is disheartening how much training I have missed this year with one thing after another. Was certainly glad to escape this last one with no scars.

SJ, I was so excited I ordered another pair. Way overpriced, made in Brazil and shipped from UK. The uppers on them aren't very durable, mainly because they weigh next to nothing. But they come in cool designs and they are different.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.011.000.000.0010.01

79F, 84% humidity, wind ESE 6 mph.  Great running out there, the sky was getting ugly with the outer bands of Hermine reaching all the way up here.  It has been raining hard all day, I ran very early and it turned out to be the only time today it wasn't raining, also turned out to be the hottest part of the day.  Ran 10.01 miles in 1:49:01, average pace 10:54 per mile, regular shoes.  I felt some weakness in my ankle so decided to go slow today as a precaution.  I needed it anyway, as my legs felt a little tired, and combined with the heavier shoes and higher temperatures it was a slow day.   I was down to 11:30 on my 9th low heart rate mile, so I bagged it and ran the last one in at marathon pace, no point to it but it felt good anyway.  It felt a little fast at first, but at least my heart rate topped out at about 164 so not too bad for the end of the run.  Hopefully I can get in some fast ones tomorrow.

Coming around the bend on my second mile there was an officer sitting there with his window down.  He didn't return my "hey" and I grew alarmed, hurried back into the house to leave a note warning my daughter to tell her ride to be careful -- this guy meant business, very unfriendly.  He wasn't there ten minutes later though, guess there wasn't enough going on in our leafy suburb to keep him busy.  Wouldn't have minded seeing him on Saturday morning at 4:00 a.m. when a teenager coming in from a night of partying accelerated through a stop sign and almost ran me over.  That's all for today from crime central.

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From lightitup on Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 18:35:46 from 67.185.20.107

Last time I ran by a cop i was in Gilbert. He was standing there with a radar gun. I asked him if I was speeding but he wasn't amused. Apparently I wasn't....

Watch out for those teenagers! What are you taking to make your injuries just disappear?

From Smooth on Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 21:43:08 from 174.23.160.38

Check out your mileage! WOW!!! You're a diehard! Glad you outran the storm!

I think that cop heard there's a speedster in the neighborhood...he was disappointed that he couldn't give you a speeding violation! :)

From flatlander on Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 09:22:34 from 76.31.26.153

E, they are never amused, a very humorless lot, they see only the seamy side of life I guess. Just lucky on the injuries, I eat healthy, use ice and keep moving.

Smooth, thanks, no danger of a speeding ticket. Good thing they don't have a minimum speed in our neighborhood or he would have rung me up for sure!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.138.000.000.0010.13

77F, 94% humidity, wind ESE 10-20 mph.  Last remains of Hermine blew through last night, outer bands only, lots of rain but no real wind.  There were a few stars showing early, mid-summer night's weather, with apologies to Bill S.  I ran 10.13 miles in 1:29:11, average pace 8:48 per mile, flat shoes.  Warmed up for 2 (10:57 and 10:05), then ran 7 at marathon pace (8:37, 8:26, 8:25, 8:20, 8:23, 8:38, 8:20, heart rate climed from 149 to 171, 8:27 average for this part, 10 seconds below MP), then the last one at 10K pace (7:37, 181 bpm, max 185 bpm) followed by a very short cool down then iced my right groin.  Happy that I did not have to run to failure to do this run, and the groin seems fine so far.  My legs remind me they are there every time I try to slip in a little speed.  Depending on how things go today I might try the same thing tomorrow in regular shoes, which get heavy with sweat toward the end of the run.  It will be a good test.

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From Stephen on Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:00:16 from 204.182.3.235

Impressive run! Be careful with over training. I think it's much better to err on the side of under training.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 12:16:29 from 214.13.130.104

Looks like a great week for you so far. Houston just doesn't want to cool down for Fall does it?

From baldnspicy on Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 07:42:16 from 72.77.98.144

Great job! Your mileage is looking impressive. Glad Hermine didn't cause too many problems.

From flatlander on Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 11:40:21 from 76.31.26.153

Stephen, trying to be careful. I think I am OK, getting better at monitoring how I feel. Call me!

Joe, happens every year, as you know, a lot of false starts, the fall finally arrives sometime in October.

Wes, thanks, we got a lot of rain, which was good. No wind, which was also good.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.5410.000.000.0012.54

76F, 97% humidity, calm and clear, beautiful morning outside, glad to be out and moving around.  My legs felt heavy at first, meaning I will need to back off soon, but not today.  Ran 12.54 miles in 1:52:05, average pace 8:56/mile, regular shoes.  Warmed up for 2, 11:04 and 10:03 then ran 10 miles at marathon pace (8:37), actually averaged 8:31 for the 10, slowest mile 8:41 and last full mile at 8:17, then slogged it in for .54 to finish the run.  I didn't run all the way to failure, but I did lose my appetite, worked pretty hard on this one, felt a little woozy at the end when I stopped but was happy to make my goal in soggy shoes and in full summer heat.  Iced my right groin down and everything seems fine, although it appears I have a cold coming on, so don't know what the rest of the week will bring.  I assumed my heart rate in heavy shoes would be about 10 bpm higher than yesterday, but it was actually one or two beats lower for most of the miles.  I don't think I got that much better in one day?  My fast miles were 4 seconds per mile slower than yesterday, but that doesn't really explain it.  Just one of those mysteries.

I got curious about my maximum heart rate and went on the internet to poke around.  That was a mistake.  It is apparently a religion that HRmax is 220 minus your age, which puts me at 165, meaning I was at or above my "max" for the last 6.5 miles of my run today.  It gets so bad that they have bloggers worried about what happens if they run faster than their max, which is exactly the same as asking what happens if I run faster than I can run.  One thing that has me a little worried, though, is that there are a lot of people who are convinced that you can damage your heart by running at max, like red-lining your engine.  I am pretty sure that is questionable as well, but I am looking for reliable science.  No one is more aware of the benefits of low heart rate training than me, but I also know that the faster I run the better I feel, not sure where the damage is.

UPDATE:  Here is some reliable information from my brother-in-law's blog.  He is a smart cardiologist in Omaha and a 3:00 marathoner.  He says don't worry about HRmax, so I won't.  A couple of the comments are interesting as well:  http://www.blogalegent.com/Cardiology-Maximum-Heart-Rate

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From lightitup on Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 11:41:36 from 67.185.20.107

It's a lawyer thing, they're just worried if they set the max higher and someone has a heart attack, all them bleepin' lawyer types will go after them. Kind of like following the instructions on a turkey; the result is a dry bird. Run as fast as you want. Oh, but not till the actual race.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 17:08:33 from 214.13.130.104

Yeah, you should quit running faster than you can run! I like that. Nice effort today.

From baldnspicy on Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 20:00:58 from 72.77.98.144

If that HRmax is true, mine is 181 and I've never been over 173, I don't think. That was during a max effort for an 800. Anything over 170 or so, my heart feels like it's going to burst. I'd say as I train more it will be able to beat faster, but as we all know, the opposite effect happens since the heart gets stronger and more efficient.

I still collect my HR on most of my runs but I have yet to really use it for anything. It seems there are so many variables that go into your HR that it almost doesn't seem worth it to try and use it for much more than data for me to obsess over.

Your runs are looking incredible, Flat!

From flatlander on Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:04:57 from 76.31.26.153

E, thanks for the tip, this might be a new practice area for me.

Joe, never ceases to amaze me what people will say without stopping to think.

Wes, it is now clear to me that HRMax is all over the charts, some guys it is low and others high. I think the formula is a mean, but almost useless for predicting individuals because the variation is so high.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.000.000.000.0014.00

75F, 94% humidity, calm and clear, another beautiful summer morning.  Got out dark and early and ran 14.00 miles in 2:28:05, average pace 10:35 per mile, flat shoes and low heart rate.  Good run but very fatigued, in a different way than on fast days.  Must mean it is doing some good.  Still up in the air what I am going to do tomorrow, but feet and legs feel fine other than being tired.  I weighed 165 at the start of the run and 159 after, and drank 1/2 liter on the run, so sweat a total of 7 pounds, lovely.

Just to illustrate the effects of our humidity, I had to get a new cell phone this week.  My old one shorted out from getting wet in my pocket, in a plastic bag.  We get soaked every day, and a sandwich baggie is insufficient protection for electronics.  I think that is similar to what happened to my Garmin earlier this summer, even though it is supposed to be somewhat water resistant.  I bought a waterproof phone, very old-fashioned looking and heavier, but hopefully it will last longer.  Running is turning into an expensive habit.

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From Smooth on Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 19:15:41 from 174.23.160.38

Yes running can be an expensive hobby! You sure are getting your money's worth though with your mega mileage! AWESOME MILES!!!

Stay dry, at least it's getting a tad cooler! :)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.500.000.000.0015.50

78F, 93%, wind SSW 3 mph, clear.  Nice morning for running, but I didn't feel too good.  I went to bed with a fever last night and turned off my alarm, figured I would make a decision in the morning what to do.  Woke up right on schedule at 4:30, still hot, got up and puttered around, almost went back to bed but then decided it wouldn't be the end of the world if I went out for a few easy miles.  I have been running pretty hard and didn't need to go hard again today anyway.  Wade is out of town this weekend, but I ran down to the Y to see if I could find anybody, about 7 miles from my house, about a 9:35 pace other than the first mile, so it was a legitimate MP+1 long run pace.  I was very hot and soaked to the skin by the time I got to the Y.  The other groups had mostly left for their run, so I rested a bit, filled up on water and caught another group just as they were leaving.  My neighbor Kathy was in the group, so ran with her for 3 miles to the group's turnaround point and then ran the rest of the way home solo, probably about a 9:45 pace but just a guess because I forgot to turn on my watch for the first part of the return.  Came home the long way to make it 15.5 for the day.  Very tired but surprisingly my heart rate behaved, never went over 161, just proves you can get really tired without pumping up your heart.

My nephew Brian from Orem is visiting for medical school interviews and he is out running now, this weather must be a shock but he hasn't complained.  He is running TOU next week with his dad, who blogs on here as Stephen.  It will be a first marathon for both of them, I think they will do well.  Brian is pretty quiet and modest, but after questioning him closely it appears that he plans to beat his dad pretty easily.

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From SlowJoe on Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 13:30:10 from 214.13.130.104

Great mileage this week. I'll think about you running 15 miles with a fever next time I complain about the heat.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.1810.000.000.0011.18

75F, 97% humidity, clear and calm.  Gorgeous morning after a lot of rain yesterday.  Houston is beautiful and green if you can get past the heat and the best way to do that is get right out in it.  Ran 11.18 miles in 1:36:12, average pace 8:36 per mile in flat shoes, including 10:16 warmup first mile, 8:26 per mile after taking out the warmup mile, 11 seconds under BQ pace.  Most interesting thing was my low heart rate compared to a similar run last week, on Thursday (76F/97%, conditions almost identical).  Bpm comparisons after throwing out the warmup miles:  144 (149); 147 (154); 152 (158);155 (163); 156 (165); 157 (168); 157 (169); 157 (171); 160 (174); and 161 (178).  That run was in regular shoes, but it was the same heart rate as flat shoes the day before.  Interesting that the bpm spread went from 5 in the first mile to 17 in the last mile, I think it shows I am getting some conditioning in that heart rate range.  Plus my speed was 5 seconds per mile faster today, felt like I could have completed a marathon, which is a good thing because that is exactly what I am going to have to do in less than 4 weeks.  Another encouraging development was Wade's 20 miler last weekend, which he ran in Utah.  Despite the altitude, unlit road (he took a spill) and a lot of hills, he flew in the cool air and low humidity.  Gives me hope. 

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From Stephen on Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:58:18 from 204.182.3.235

WOW!!!

Which marathon are you running in 4 weeks?

From SlowJoe on Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 18:37:27 from 214.13.130.104

I always enjoy and learn from your numbers. Cool to have the HR data like that - especially since it stayed so low today after 10 sub-BQ miles. Awesome. Running in those cooler temps next month in New England has got to be worth additional BPM savings.

From flatlander on Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 22:17:23 from 76.31.26.153

Stephen, running the ING Hartford Marathon in Connecticut. Sea level, flat and cool, my kind of race. With my luck it will probably be snowing.

Joe, I'm certainly depending on a cold weather boost, I hope it happens. It came through last year big time at St. George.

From KP on Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:33:15 from 65.208.22.25

super speedy, flat! way to go!

From flatlander on Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:52:18 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks, looks like you have been up to quite a bit lately.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.010.000.000.0011.01

73F, 97% humidity, calm and clear with ground fog.  I didn't know you could have fog at this temperature, but definitely a great morning for running.  Went long and slow, 11.01 miles in 1:56:58, average pace 10:37 pe rmile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  Woke up at 2:30 and couldn't go back to sleep.  Finally got up at 5:00 and hit the road at 5:30, back just in time to take my daughter to school.  I am going to be sleepy today, already am, but it didn't seem to affect my speed, this was a good pace for regular shoes.

So last Saturday my son went to homecoming at his girlfriend's high school and the group and their parents came to our house for pictures.  Two strange things.  First was that the group of 13 kids was 9 girls and 4 boys, there were 5 girls without dates.  That is new to me, nothing wrong with it but when I was a kid you took a date to a big dance or stayed home or did something else.  Second thing was of a very different nature.  Two of the girls were mothers of 3-month infants, who were included in some of the pictures.  Both of the mothers had dates, one was the father and the other was not.  When I realized what the situation was, I just sat in the corner in shock while everybody chattered away.  I am not ignorant about teenage parenting, but I naively thought that if you had a kid the party was over.  Apparently not.  Still trying to sort this one out in my head, but I am pretty sure these kids don't understand the full extent of the price they will be paying for their decisions.

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From KP on Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:00:50 from 65.208.22.25

that is something i think about a lot as well! not saying that you don't have fun after you become a parent, but i do think that when you become a parent when you are still in high school, a bit of the fun should end. if the kids are out partying or going to dances or whatever, that means that the parents are watching the kid. that would never fly with my mother, i can assure you. i remember my senior prom a girl came that was like 8.5 months pregnant... WHY?

From flatlander on Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:37:56 from 198.207.244.102

KP, Thanks for weighing in on this. Being a parent comes with both pain and fun, but I think these kids are going to have more pain than fun. There is a proper sequence -- they are out of sequence and don't seem to realize it. And as you note, it is also unfair to the grandparents who have to set aside their own plans to help out, for the sake of the baby if nothing else.

From Burt on Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:46:20 from 206.19.214.144

I would have walked right up and told them that they should have waited until they were married.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.007.010.000.008.01

70F, 100% humidity, calm and clear.  The air felt a little fresher this morning, but I think the humidity is the main limiting factor.  Until the humidity goes down my pace isn't really going to pick up that much.  I had to quit early to take my daughter to school for tutoring.  I ran 8.01 miles in 1:09:07, average pace 8:38, regular shoes.  Average pace for the fast miles was 8:25, slightly faster than Monday -- heart rate today was slightly lower on the front end, a little higher at the end, so a good run.  Felt like I was working pretty hard despite a pretty normal heart rate.  The legs really need to get used to marathon pace, not really there yet.  I was very fatigued yesterday after waking up so early then putting in a long day, including taking clients to the Astros game.  Slept well though and didn't feel like there was much residual effect this morning.  I might try to go faster tomorrow if I am feeling decent.

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From derhammer on Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:59:42 from 65.67.40.73

Nice run - I agree that the weather makes it very hard to judge one's fitness. It does not look like there is any relief in site, either. You had a nice MGP run the other day, what makes you say your legs are not there yet?

From flatlander on Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:28:10 from 198.207.244.102

Yeah, I think the safest thing is to make sure I can do it in the heat and then hope for an added boost when I get to cool weather. As for the legs, in my last marathon I was done at 20 miles, even though my heart rate was fine -- about 10 beats higher than lately at the same pace, but didn't seem like it was high enough to be the limiting factor. It went down in the last 10K as my speed decreased. So that is why I am worried about my legs, perhaps needlessly, but I have to worry about something. The plan tomorrow is to run a little further and a little faster to see what happens, but I will be backing off at the first sign of trouble, don't want to mess up the race.

From derhammer on Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 13:11:43 from 65.67.40.73

The mileage you have been running should make a big difference with your legs this time around. Oh, I came across this article today about the mental aspect of running a marathon - worth a read: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1608/is_4_15/ai_54237567/

From flatlander on Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:02:50 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks, I'll check out the article. Legs were definitely a limiting factor this morning, but they felt a little stronger, so I'm making progress.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.0013.000.000.0014.00

66F, 94% humidity, clear and calm.  Beautiful morning outside, the weather broke last night and I wasn't aware until I stepped outside to catch a satellite with my Garmin.  I was considering skipping this run altogether, because I was up until past midnight due to a daughter's car accident.  (She is OK, ran over a tire on a freeway in Louisiana, don't ask why she was in Louisiana, I'm still not sure.)  But I woke up pretty much on schedule.  I had planned a half-marathon run in an overconfident moment earlier in the week, but it was daunting to get up this morning and actually have to do it.  But I put on my flats and went out the door on autopilot and warmed up for a mile (9:59) then took off.  The goal was to do 13 at 8 flat and I succeeded.  Splits for the 13 were 8:00 (148); 8:01 (153); 7:59 (155); 8:03 (159); 7:50 (161); 7:58 (163); 7:58 (163); 8:04 (165); 8:00 (166); 7:52 (168); 8:12 (168); 7:51 (172); and 7:45 (175), average pace for the 13 was 7:58, overall average was 8:06, total time 1:53:28 and 1:43:30 for the 13, which projects to 1:44:18 for a full half marathon, which is about an 8-1/2 minute PR for me for that distance, not that I have run it much.  I got an assist from the weather, not sure what would have happened at 76F but probably wouldn't have made it.  Gotta go, big day at work today.  Happy running everybody.

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From derhammer on Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:20:52 from 65.67.40.73

Wow - phenomenal run! Nice break in the weather - we still had high 70's this morning. More amazing is that you went out and did this run all on your own. I am not sure I could do that.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 15:45:44 from 214.13.130.104

Holy cow! Now that has to give you confidence for a BQ. You're in awesome shape if you can do that with no taper and without the excitement of being in a race. 66F is not exactly ideal either.

From lightitup on Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 16:14:24 from 174.31.70.177

Congrats! Now, please taper...

From Smooth on Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 20:27:40 from 67.132.126.22

WOW!!! SUPER EXCELLENT run! I agree w/ Joe! What a confidence builder! I smell a BQ coming your way!!

From flatlander on Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:17:22 from 76.31.26.153

derhammer, thanks. After seeing your weather report I am doubting mine. Trying to figure out how I can doublecheck what our true temperature was yesterday morning. Doesn't make sense to me that we would be 10 degrees cooler than Austin here, especially since our cool weather always comes from the north or the west. It would be an added bonus if I found out I did that run at 76F instead of 66F, but I think it was definitely cooler than 76F.

Joe, thanks. I figure if you can serve and still run fast in a lot of heat I can do it here to a lesser extent. You are making good progress there.

E, one more heavy day then taper, taper, taper. For the first time I am actually looking forward to a taper. It has been a long, hot summer.

Smooth, thanks very much. I sure hope so, I feel like I have done what I can. If it doesn't happen there is always another race. Thanks for the tip on the taper coach. I like him a lot, sensible no-nonsense guy. I'll dig out his plan and see if I can follow it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.100.000.000.0011.10

75F, 94% humidity, calm and clear.  Nice running weather out there.  I had a smile on my face when I woke up after 7-1/2 hours of sleep, no fast miles today.  Got some tomorrow, then a very welcome three weeks of taper.  Ran 11.10 miles in 2:01:41, 10:58 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  The slow miles felt relaxed for a while, then I was laboring to finish -- my average pace climbed from 10:50 to 10:58 in the last 4 miles.  Not out of breath, just fatigued.  A lot of residual fatigue left from yesterday's frolic.  I think I am OK, though.  Ideally I would get a nap today, but it ain't happenin'.

I had an interesting dream last night, variation on the old one where I forget to go to class for a whole semester then wonder how I am going to pass the final, or even figure out where it is.  I still have that dream even though I finished my last degree well over 20 years ago.  In last night's version I was running my "BQ" marathon and got distracted.  About 20 miles in I realized I was right on pace for a 4:30 marathon, no wonder I felt so good.  I had stopped to help paint lines in the road, not sure why that was so important.  Another reason I was happy to wake up this morning with a BQ possibility still alive.

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From Smooth on Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:23:01 from 67.132.126.22

NICE!!! Love waking up w/ a smile! Your mileage is phenomenal...that alone ensure you have *gone to class* and that BQ is in the bag!

Hmmm painting lines on the road?...may be subliminal message to do the tangents while you * frolic*?! :)

From derhammer on Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:29:31 from 65.67.40.73

3 weeks of taper? What does your schedule look like? Have you had luck with that schedule before? 3 weeks might be too long to go without some faster paced stuff thrown in. My plan is to drop to 50's week 3, 45 miles week 2 and 30 miles the week of but I won't wind down on intensity until 10 days out. But if you have a plan that works you should stick with it, too late to change anything now. Didn't mean for you to doubt your plan, I am just curious. Good entry on tapering: http://fastrunningblog.com/forum/index.php/topic,9.0.html

From flatlander on Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:49:45 from 198.207.244.102

Smooth, thanks! Tangents. I knew if I posted my dream on here I would get an interpretation. I will definitely pay attention to those, in fact somebody else warned me about the tangents on this particular course, so you have given me very smart advice.

David, definitely not too late to tweak the taper schedule. My plan may not end up being all that different from yours, definitely want to keep some turnover in there, in fact I am toying with doing a 10K time trial next week in addition to some sprints. And I have a 5K race scheduled the week before the marathon. But after tomorrow I am done running long and hard for a while, if I do it for another week I think I would end up injured, would rather lose a little conditioning than do that. I'll post a taper schedule tomorrow or Sunday, would definitely welcome input on it, as I struggle getting the taper right.

From derhammer on Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:41:56 from 65.67.40.73

Great - but you are correct in you must take into account risk of injury vs. reward. Something that we do a lot of is Fartleks or pickups. Pretty low impact yet helps with leg turnover. Basically on one of your runs tack it on the last 3 miles or so. Maybe 1 minute on and 1 minute off at easy pace and repeat 10 - 15 times. Make the minute on 10k pace or faster. Throw in some shorter pick ups on other runs, say 20-30 seconds at 5k pace and 40 seconds rest. Again, I think this is a great way to add in some speed safely. On another subject, I have tried the Aussie carbo load plan with pretty good success as have others in my running group. Read about it by following the URL below - you may want to try it before a long run first just to make sure it works for you. Again, at this point you don't want to do anything to drastic that can sabotage your marathon. Better safe than sorry after all the time you have invested in training. http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/carbo-loading-managing-your-glycogen-intake-without-overloading-glucose-65

From SlowJoe on Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 18:59:26 from 214.13.130.104

Hey, I have that exact dream about school sometimes. Mine usually ends with angry people chasing me from the ground as I'm swimming slowly through the sky above them (usually freestyle or breaststroke).

I'm inpressed you even ran 11 miles the day after that fast HM. Nice.

From flatlander on Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:17:33 from 76.31.26.153

David, thanks, I haven't tried Fartleks before and this is probably a good time to bring that in to the program. Btw, I can't get that pponline website to work, I think it is down. Looks like a great site.

Joe, impressive dream, you must have a great imagination. As long as they don't have weapons you are probably OK?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.544.500.000.0020.04

76F, 94% humidity, wind NE 3 mph.  Another beautiful scorcher of a morning.  Went with Wade to the same neighborhood group we ran with a few weeks ago.  They have great trails out there and some faster runners.  The plan for me was to do two 9.5 mile loops, but Wade is on his SGM taper already so he was only out for 15.  Ran 20.04 in 3:07:02, average pace 9:20 per mile, regular shoes.  On the second loop, was almost to marathon pace when Wade peeled off to run back.  His race is shaping up nicely, bpm already lower than mine at the same speed.  I sped up to marathon pace and managed to hold it for 4.5 miles.  Came into an aid station (this group is very organized) and I was done, heart rate was up to 177.  Rehydrated, ate a little bit and felt queasy.  When I started back in the best pace I could manage was 10:00 to 10:15 but I held it the rest of the way, including an extra mile at the end to get a full 20.  Very different run than Thursday, but it was fine.  I didn't feel pressure to perform because I already got my confidence run on Thursday.  So when I was done I was done.  No unusual aches and pains so far this morning, but very much looking forward to a taper.

Came upon a sad scene on the second loop.  A lot of runners were on the trail by this time.  A kid was standing alongside holding a big sign that said "I lied to my Dad".  I'm sure he was hoping he didn't see anybody he knew.  He was probably about 15.  I certainly sympathize with the dad, some of the stuff that teenagers throw at us starts to get really old after awhile.  But he may not realize that this might be the last time he can make his kid to do anything, or close to it.   I know I have had my share of situations where I would welcome a do-over.

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From Rye on Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:19:14 from 168.103.45.13

Great run flat...Your training is going well! Truly that is a sad scene. Life can be cruel but yet so rewarding. I wish each child came with their own set of guidelines. Even then I am sure that we parents would screw it up.

From Mack on Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 21:20:11 from 71.111.186.66

Nice run Flat!!

I'm not sure I get the story about the obnoxious teenager. What did he lie to his dad about?

I have had my share of stress with my own teenagers but I can't figure this one out???

From flatlander on Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 14:26:52 from 75.223.118.157

Rye, amen to that, if I had as much info about kids as running I would be dad of the year.

Mack, nice to hear from you! I don't know the details that led to him standing out there. The dad was out working in the yard as I ran past and you could cut the tension with a knife. My only observation was that he is probably humiliating his kid and I hope he knows what he is doing, but it's possible he doesn't realize that he will want a do-over in a couple of years. I may have read too much into it, but I thought it was a very striking scene.

From derhammer on Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:33:23 from 65.67.40.73

Nice 20 miler - way to tough it out.

From Mack on Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 19:18:11 from 71.111.186.66

Oh, I get it. Sad. We have probably all done stupid stuff to our kids but I'm sure glad I have never done anything like that.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.102.000.000.009.10

72F, 87% humidity, calm and partly cloudy.  Felt really good out there this morning.  I ran 9.10 miles in 1:28:00, average pace 9:40 per mile.  Ran the first 7 at low heart rate and flat shoes, average pace 10:11, a new low heart rate PR for me by 13 seconds per mile.  I got 3 miles under 10, which is the first time that has happened.  The heat was off a little today, but it was still warmer than any of my fast low heart rate runs that I have tracked, so this is good progress.  Feels good to be in a taper mode, felt good to take a day of rest yesterday, I can feel the strength coming back into my legs.  I ran the last two slightly below marathon pace, 8:17 and 7:57, that felt good too.

This is going to be a good week.  Congrats again to all the great racers over the weekend.

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From Burt on Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:37:31 from 206.19.214.144

Nice job Flatty.

From Burt on Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:38:17 from 206.19.214.144

Woah! You put some serious miles in last week!

From Mack on Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 19:21:13 from 71.111.186.66

Flat you really are amazing. When I first started reading your blog you seemed like just an average guy...which is why I liked you. Looking at the kind of mileage you are racking up now days you are starting to look less and less average! =)

From baldnspicy on Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 23:14:50 from 72.77.98.144

Mack - I thought the same thing! I guess I didn't realize he was such a speed demon!

Flat - you're awesome man! Enjoy your taper!

From Burt on Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 23:38:07 from 68.225.214.248

Yeah. I don't think we can be his friend anymore.

From flatlander on Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:56:59 from 75.214.247.26

Thanks guys, I know you are kidding, I think. Mack, I pledge to stay average. Burt, you're always my friend. Bald, I certainly am enjoying it very much. Even when I run hard it doesn't bother me because in my mind I am on my taper.

From baldnspicy on Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 22:04:09 from 72.77.98.144

I'll just have to get faster so I don't feel like you're so much better than me. :-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.890.002.001.259.14

73F, 94% humidity, wind WSW 8 mph, raining.  Gorgeous morning for running, rained most of the time.  I can't figure out why the humidity isn't 100% when it rains.  Ran 2 miles warmup, then 2 miles at 5K speed, 7:14 and 7:05, then relaxed for a mile and ran 10 x 200 basically as fast as I could with 200 cooldowns in between.  I can't measure 200 exactly on my Garmin, I'm sure there is a way, but I just run 0.12 or 0.13 and then hit the lap button.  Pacing for the splits ranged from 6:46 to 6:04 on a mile basis, mostly around 6:30.  Not very fast for a flat-out sprint, but a little faster than it was when I ran similar intervals earlier in the summer.  It really wasn't very hard, didn't want to risk an injury, funny thing is that form seemed to make more difference on speed than effort.

Spent a good part of the morning figuring out plane tickets to Hartford for me and my wife, should have done it weeks ago.  I finally had a eureka moment when I was all done and checked out prices to Newark.  About half, even with the extra cost of the rental car.  So back on the phone to change everything around.  Done now, but wasted too much time.

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From Mack on Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 14:09:08 from 71.111.186.66

Nice speed work. I like to run in the rain too.

Is your next marathon in Hartford? I thought you were doing St George?

From flatlander on Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 14:19:52 from 198.207.244.102

Mack, didn't make it through the St. George lottery, but it's just as well. As fun as that race is, I seem to run best on flat sea-level courses.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 15:35:45 from 214.13.130.104

I see you're keeping the intensity up. Lookin' good.

From baldnspicy on Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 22:09:15 from 72.77.98.144

We're scheduled for thunderstorms tomorrow. I think I'm the only person in the running class hoping that it rains between noon and 1pm. I love it.

Great job on the speed work, friend!

From derhammer on Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:06:56 from 65.67.40.73

Nice workout. I think those sprint times are very respectable. You mentioned form - that's why I like some speed work - it really makes me focus on form even when I get tired.

From baldnspicy on Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 17:53:53 from 72.77.68.219

How can we be friends if you're just going to keep rubbing the speed in my face!?

From Smooth on Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 18:17:26 from 67.41.235.104

AWESOME speed to keep things sharp! Glad you figured out the airfare stuff. Is Hartford the same weekend as St George? GOOD LUCK and enjoy the taper!

Oh, I love running in the rain...today we had some serious downpour burst...the blinding kind...crazy! I prefer the light rain kind.

From flatlander on Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 00:50:51 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, thanks, can't wait till you get to race again.

Wes, yep, love the rain. As for the speed, c'mon, it was 200 meters. It takes that far just to fall down.

David, yeah, I was surprised at how smooth I felt when I sped up, definitely some benefit there. You have to run smooth or you will fall apart.

Smooth, thanks, took me a while but I wasn't feeling very smart. Hartford is the weekend after St. George, so I get to stay home and watch all the bloggers, then go do my own race.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.250.000.000.009.25

88F, 55% humidity, wind WSW 15-20 mph.  Have been buried under work all day and didn't get out until late afternoon.  Put on sunscreen, have never risked burning my skin in the moonlight, this was a new experience.  Started out as a blustery afternoon then gradually calmed into a very pleasant run.  Ran 9.25 miles in 1:42:01, average pace 11:01, regular shoes and low heart rate.  I don't have enough experience running at this temperature to know if my time was good for this heart rate zone or not, but it was a relaxing run.  At times my heart rate climbed out of the target zone as a result of the heat, but this run was about the legs, the heart is going to be fine.

About 6.5 miles in I stopped to get a drink at a golf course just as the sun was going down and saw this magical father/son moment:

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From Burt on Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 00:55:35 from 68.225.214.248

That is pretty warm.

From Smooth on Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 00:59:54 from 67.41.235.104

I seriously would melt in that heat and humidity. NICE run! It's full moon tonight so may be you get to run with a bright moon early morning tomorrow!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.110.000.000.009.11

74F, 94% humidity, wind E 5mph.  Pretty morning, partly cloudy with the full moon setting.  Ran 9.11 in 1:37:35, 10:48 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  Was up very late last night and did not want to do this run, legs still sore from running last night.  It was a little bit of going through the motions, but this was the right run at the right speed and I got it in.  If I had known it would be exactly 9.11 miles I might have passed, not that I am superstitious.  I have an early flight tomorrow on a business trip that just came up, should be interesting getting my run in before the flight.  This taper isn't all that relaxing, at least the first week of it.

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From Smooth on Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 17:47:49 from 67.41.235.104

NICE run w/ the full moon and WAY to get in 9+ miles so soon after a night run! GOOD LUCK w/ yet another early run tomorrow and have a SAFE trip.

From Rye on Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 21:11:42 from 97.121.22.100

The moon was awesome! Nice run. The moon is the same but the temps are sure different.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 16:17:35 from 214.13.130.104

Glad you fit it in. I like the full moon as well, helps me avoid tripping so much in the morning.

From flatlander on Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:55:17 from 76.31.26.153

Smooth, thanks, alas I missed my run, was up too late and it just didn't happen. Got in a good one this morning though.

Rye, I think we are about done with the heavy summer heat, for the most part anyway.

Joe, I certainly made use of it this morning.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.0016.000.000.0016.00

70F, 100% humidity, calm and clear.  A gorgeous morning out there, supposed to get cool in the next 24-48 hours so this might be the last hot run of the year.  Missed my run yesterday because at the last minute I had to catch a 7:30 plane to Dallas on a work matter and didn't get home until 10 p.m., a very long day and too tired to run at the end of it.

So this morning I drove down to the Y, they were doing 10 at 6 so I got there an hour early and did 6, average pace 8:39.  The almost-full moon lit up the deserted trail so I had no problems seeing.  Then the group arrived and we did 10 more.  My pace was all over the charts as I ran and chatted with different runners.  A lot of women in the group are doing San Francisco in 3 weeks, Wade is doing St. George in a week and I am doing Hartford in 2 weeks.  Then Wade and a friend from his work started talking shop, and after three acronyms I had had enough.  Took off and did the last three in 8:01, 7:55 and 7:57, felt good to air it out.  Wade said they discussed trying to catch me when I went around the final turn with two miles to go but decided it was hopeless.  These are the guys I run with. 

Total 16.0 miles in 2:17:29, overall average pace 8:35 per mile, flat shoes.  Heart rate all over the place as well, but got high at the end, 184 max.  Funny thing was, even with a high heart rate I felt pretty good.  The taper always makes me lose confidence so it was good to do a long run at marathon pace.

I got a shirt from the running club, my first singlet.  It is traffic-cone orange, you could get a job on the airport tarmac in that thing.  I won't wear it in the race because it makes me look sleek and trim, not my image, plus I'll get my pale bony shoulders sunburned.  BaldnSpicy will ultimately have to decide if I am fast enough yet to wear a singlet, even if I wanted to.  My guess is he will make me wait one more year, but it's in the washing machine right now to soften it up, just in case he says yes.

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From derhammer on Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:40:41 from 24.28.82.222

Great job! You are defintely ready for Hartford. Yes, forecast is for lows in the 50's next week!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 17:54:32 from 214.13.130.104

Sounds like another great run. I'm not a singlet kind of guy either but I'm sure you're plenty fast enough! Have an enjoyable taper.

From Stephen on Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 20:08:13 from 71.195.218.176

That is one impressive run! May Hartford be your last run in the quest for Boston!

From Mack on Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 23:52:43 from 71.111.186.66

Hey if it makes you look sleek and trim wear the dang thing.

From jasro on Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 21:45:55 from 174.145.25.252

You are really rocking it!!

From flatlander on Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 09:49:07 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks everybody, I am really enjoying this taper. I needed it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.007.100.000.007.10

60F, 84% humidity, wind N 4 mph.  The cool air came in and it was wondrous out there.  Only problem is that I have some severe leftover stiffness from Saturday, very surprising since I didn't think I ran that hard.  My legs are definitely lagging my heart in the fitness area.  Actually ran with an altered gait for much of the run trying to get comfortable.  It evened out some but not a good run.  Went 7.10 miles in 58:56, average pace 8:18 per mile in regular shoes, actually 8:12 per mile if I throw out the first warmup mile.  Harder than it should have been but I got it in.

My daughter does early morning seminary, this is her first year, and friends have been driving her in order to accommodate my running schedule.  This week and next I am returning the favor since I only have to run an hour now that I am tapering.  This morning was tough, though.  I ran at 4:30, did the seminary run at 5:45 and somehow made it downtown for jury duty at 8:00 a.m.  The things we do.

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From baldnspicy on Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 22:42:25 from 72.77.68.219

Whoa! You get out of taking your daughter to seminary because you're a runner?? When do I get to call myself a runner and get out of it?

That's impressive to get up at 4:30am and run before all that. I am lucky to get up at 5:15am to take her. If I stay up once I get home it's usually because I got more than 6 hours of sleep which hasn't been often lately, so I head back to bed for some restless and practically useless "sleep" for an hour when I have to get up for the day. I need to get my runs in instead of going back to bed! I'm getting lazy in my old age!

You're a great dad to sacrifice and still manage to get all of YOUR duties and needs met. Great job! Enjoy that beautiful weather!

From flatlander on Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 09:51:54 from 76.31.26.153

Bald, I have finally got it into my head that my run starts the afternoon before. That is when I have to start hurrying to get everything done so I can get to bed so I can get up, etc. Yes, everybody around me is very supportive about my obsession. I very much appreciate it and it is going to leave me in a quandry if I qualify for Boston -- go for more or back off? I like to think my running doesn't inconvenience other people but here is a case where it does.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.136.000.000.007.13

56F, 86% humidity, calm and clear.  Beautiful out there.  I am not yet getting the cool weather pop I had hoped for.  Ankle still feels weak when I land on it, but I stubbornly went out there anyway, it was actually a little better today.  Ran 7.13 in 1:00:36, average pace 8:30 per mile, 8:12 per mile after taking out the warmup lap, regular shoes.

Jury duty yesterday was something else.  My strategy for not getting picked is to go in dressed to the max, makes me look educated which is not a good quality in a juror.  Lawyers are not exempt in Texas like in some states, but we almost never get picked.  Would have been a personal scheduling disaster if I had been.  I got on a panel for a murder trial for a teenager who spoke no English, juror No. 1 in a panel of 64.  Right out of the box the Assistant DA asked somebody what they would think if juror No. 1 shot juror No. 2 just because I didn't like him.  I chimed in that I was just putting him out of his misery so he wouldn't have to do jury duty.  Everybody laughed except for the DA. It went downhill from there, but I didn't get picked, so something worked.  I was worried, though.  Most of the men on the panel either wanted to fry the kid or set him free, all without knowing any facts about the case whatsoever.  I thought they might have to pick me out of desperation, but they ended up picking 10 women and 2 men.  They had to go all the way to the back row to get their 12 but I think they somehow came up with a good jury.

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From Rye on Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:36:08 from 71.209.52.139

Enjoyed your comments on the jury duty. I like your sense of humor! Your training is going well! Man, 56 degrees what a cold front!

From derhammer on Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 16:40:44 from 65.67.40.73

Nice runs. I would be careful running too many MGP miles this close to the marathon. You do want to throw in one or 2 fast paced workouts to keep the legs fresh but that's it. You don't want to be worn out before you get to the starting line. I think this to be especially true if your ankle is flaring up. Here are a couple good articles I found: http://www.ironman-triathlon-training-programs.com/marathon-ironman-triathlon-taper.html

and http://pfitzinger.com/labreports/marathontaper.shtml

-just my 2 cents worth :-)

From Mack on Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 19:15:16 from 71.111.186.66

Cool jury duty story Flat.

I have a sister in law that was in the same type of situation as you not too long ago. She said to the court "I personally believe that if someone is arrested then they must have done something wrong..." She wasn't picked either.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 19:33:02 from 214.13.130.104

Looking good!

The most interesting trial I served on in Houston was aggravated assault though it was pretty open and shut, as they say. Is that what you say? What do I know. Most importantly it got me out of work for a couple days. I like your strategy though!

From baldnspicy on Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 22:48:16 from 72.77.68.219

Didn't the two lawyers know you?

You could have said that you were killing him because he looked like competition for your upcoming marathon. You're looking great, Flat! I'm really impressed and can't wait for the report!

From flatlander on Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:04:41 from 76.31.26.153

Rye, yeah I am ashamed to admit it but it really does feel cold out there! I am such a wimp.

DH, good advice as usual. I had seen the Pfitzinger one but not the other one. I backed off today. In the past I have tapered too much, hard to get the correct balance.

Mack, that is one prevalent view that drives me nuts. There are good cops and bad cops, just like the cliche says. Some are highly reliable and others have an agenda.

Joe, we say "book 'em, Dano". How much time did you give him?

Bald, no didn't know any of them. That would have been great because around here you are done if you know either lawyer, they just show you the door.

From Burt on Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 14:31:09 from 206.19.214.144

You are a such a smart alleck.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:56:10 from 214.13.130.104

25 yrs. Actually it was aggravated robbery now that I think of it.. a car-jacking. I forget whether he was a "Blood" or a "Crip" but there was quite a history.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.110.000.000.007.11

63F, 75% humidity, wind NW 5 mph.  Beautiful day to be out there running.   Went 7.11 miles in 1:12:22, average pace 10:11 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  That is a good pace for regular shoes, although 10 days ago I did a low heart rate run at 10:06 per mile.  That run was in flat shoes but at 72F and high humidity.  I noticed my blog entry for that day says I ran at 10:11 per mile but I re-calculated and it was 10:06, so that was a very good day.  Maybe the next time I strap on the flats I will get under 10.  That used to be a fantasy goal but now it is realistic, gotta love progress.

Trying to get the fatigue out of my legs, and trying to hone in on a goal for Hartford.  Obviously a minimum is 3:45 but some of my times on shorter runs are indicating a possibility for a faster race.  I want to be (1) realistic, (2) ambitious and (3) not blow my BQ chances by going out too hard.  I have noticed that running is like money -- never quite enough.

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From Kelli on Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:45:15 from 71.219.65.246

I like the analogy to money! There really never is enough.

Good luck with the training and figuring out how to pace the race. That is always the hardest for me, so I choose to not think and just go run. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't!

From lightitup on Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:52:08 from 174.31.70.177

Then again, if you go out too hard, you'll have time in the bank and I might be able to keep up with you the last six...

From flatlander on Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 09:27:59 from 76.31.26.153

Kelli, that might be the best approach, I'm too worried about this race to trust myself on this one, but I might try that on the next one. It would be fun to run a whole marathon without a watch and see what happens. I'm guessing slower but you never know.

E, I like your attitude, see you at mile 20!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.050.002.000.007.05

60F, 83% humidity, calm.  Thank goodness it warmed up a little bit!  Ran 7.05 in 1:07:29, low heart rate except for 2 and regular shoes.  The two fast miles were 7:11, 1 mile cooldown, then 7:05.  Tried to run smoothly but don't know how well I did.  Would like to be able to run a 6:30 mile but that isn't in the cards yet.  I am running a 5K with my kids on Saturday, probably a little late in the taper but it is important and it is still 7 days out.  I think I will target about 7:15, which would put me under 22:30, a nice PR if I can pull it off.

I have been riding my friend Wade about the heat he is going to get in St. George, but I am actually a little worried, especially for my friends at the back of the pack.  They are going to be roasting if it doesn't let up a little.  The National Guard (or whoever those guys were) is going to have its hands full.

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From Mack on Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 17:58:49 from 71.111.186.66

Nice run Flat.

I hear ya on the St Geo heat thing. I know I felt it a lot when I ran my only St G back in '98. It was pretty brutal.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 19:56:51 from 74.82.24.13

Way to keep those legs moving, wow. Not that you'd want to try it right before a marathon but I bet you have pretty close to a 6:30 in you right now if you specifically set out to do it one day.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.110.000.000.007.11

66F, 78% humidity, wind N 3 mph.   Warming up quite nicely but it won't last, we are back down in the 50s starting tomorrow I think.  I looked up Hartford this morning and it was hotter and more humid than Houston.  Uh oh.  But their 10 day forecast is uniformly in the low 50s, so I think that was either a typo or some wierd, short-lived weather pattern.

I stayed up late working last night so got out late this morning.  I ran 7.11 miles in 1:14:26, 10:28 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  Have been watching my right foot very closely this week, so no flat shoe runs for a while, but I think it will be OK.  I had back problems two years ago, herniated disc pushing against my sciatic nerve on the right side, and ended up with numbness in my right foot which still lingers.  So earlier this week out running, every 10th step or so it was like my foot was giving out underneath me, not necessarily painful but folding like a wet noodle.  My daughter reported that she had a very similar condition when she was pregnant, so I'm pretty sure that it is a nerve problem.  Not too hard to compensate for it at a slow pace but it made for some funny looking stride breaks when I got into the low 7s yesterday, wouldn't have even been able to run that fast a couple of days earlier.  I could still feel it this morning but it held my weight fine the whole run.  So fragile.

Race: Susan G. Komen Race for the Cure (3.1 Miles) 00:22:33, Place overall: 243, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.000.003.100.006.10

60F, 80% humidity, wind N 3 mph.  Beautiful Saturday morning, was thinking about all the St. George runners, hope all goes well with all of them.  Byron and Marci, my brother in law and sister in law from Woodland Hills, ran it.  They just called and said the heat was brutal.

I ran a local 5K this morning, a breast cancer fundraiser for which my firm is one of the sponsors.  There were 32,000 runners in all, a real zoo in downtown Houston.  Only 3,000+ were entered in the timed race, however, most wanted to just slog it or walk it.  I had 3 of my 5 kids entered, as well as my son-in-law and daughter-in-law, so it was a family event.  My wife stayed home with the granddaughters so they didn't have to get up.

I got down there a little early and got the last ones in our group registered.  I wanted to run about 6 ahead of the race but there wasn't time.  I ran 3 at about 9:30 pace to warm up, then entered the race corral from the front end, as I knew with that many runners a good time was hopeless unless I managed to get close to the front.  I placed myself a few rows back and that was about right.

After the gun went off I was bobbing and weaving a little but saw I was running a 6:45 pace, which explained why my legs felt heavy but at least I knew I was OK with the speed.  Mile splits were 7:07, 7:07, 7:17 and 1:02 (7:15).  The last mile was fairly significant uphill, including a steep down and up underpass, so compensating for that I ran an even pace throughout.  I ran at 187-188 bpm the entire last mile, felt like I gave it pretty much everything I had and finished in 22:33, close to a 2-minute improvement over my time on this same course (different race) in March.  I looked around and didn't see any other geezers so I thought I might have a chance of placing.  We stuck around for the awards ceremony, something I never do, and sure enough I won the 55+ division, which had 95 runners entered.  Overall I was 243 out of 3182 finishers in the timed race.  Got a nice crystal plaque that is going front and center in my office.

Last week of taper coming up.  This is the week I have the most trouble getting it right.  I am suspicious of tapers in general, but I must admit my legs are feeling stronger today.  This 5K time translates to about a 3:40 marathon, eerily close to what my time trial half marathon from 15 days ago graded out to as well.  I think there is a message here: Don't try anything dumb in Hartford.

Here is the obligatory post-race shot, sorry about the shaded eyes.

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From lightitup on Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 15:46:57 from 174.31.70.177

WOW! Great job!!!

From derhammer on Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 16:43:52 from 24.28.82.222

Wow - 1st place in your age division! Fantastic run!

From Mack on Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 17:46:27 from 71.111.186.66

Great job Flat!!!!!!!!!!!! Way to take an age group first place in a HUGE field of runners. You are going to do awesome in Hartford.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 18:46:51 from 214.13.130.104

Congrats on the 1st place in AG! Out of 95, that is amazing. Also, really nice to get the double-confirmation of your projected BQ like that. You're definitely trained to meet (and beat) the calculators, I think.

From Stephen on Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 19:02:51 from 71.195.218.176

That is one incredible race for first place! I hope you take it really easy this week, (rest and then rest some more) so that you can make the big goal to qualify for Boston! You are trained to do it as long as you get enough rest.

From allie on Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 19:45:53 from 174.19.51.35

nice job!

From Burt on Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 00:44:15 from 68.225.214.248

Way to go old geezer! That's so close to my PR!

From flatlander on Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 07:51:22 from 76.31.26.153

E, thanks, really looking forward to seeing you in Hartford this weekend.

DH, thanks, good luck in Steamtown.

Thanks Mack, really good to see you back at it and back blogging.

Joe, thanks, very nice how you keep track of everybody from way over there.

Stephen, it's a lot easier racing against the old guys. This is actually a very modest 5K time, even for the senior division, room for improvement as they say.

Allie, thanks! Love your running and your blog.

Burt, thanks, still hoping to make it over there for another race next year.

From baldnspicy on Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 15:16:39 from 72.77.68.219

Stellar race! Congrats on an AG win!!! That's a speedy time. My PR is about that but mine was on a perfectly flat course! You rock, dude!

From Kelli on Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 21:30:19 from 71.219.65.246

NICE!!!! Way to place 1st, very cool! Taper right....it is worth it. Now, I am not sure what "right" is, but I am sure there is an individual answer out there for each of us.

From jasro on Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 13:54:26 from 174.145.244.92

Way to go!!! You are getting speedy. Congrats on the first place in your age group.

btw, SG went relatively well considering the heat, etc. Thanks for your support this year and staying with me. It was nice to have a long distance training partner from the flatlands. Only wish you were here to help me get out of bed in the mornings. lol. Best of luck next week.

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 00:06:19 from 72.102.97.34

BNS, thanks, my PR will drop a lot slower than yours, I'm sure.

Thanks Kelli, still can't believe the race you had.

Jason, going over to look at your report right now.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

55F, 70% humidity, nice crisp morning for a slow jog.  Ran 5.0 at low heart rate and regular shoes, very early in the morning, then got on a plane and came to Portland for a couple of days' worth of meetings.  Plan to go running along the river in the morning, should be a lot of fun if there is enough light to see.  Very tired tonight from traveling and meeting, ate at a nice seafood place called Jakes.

Had a whole houseful of people over for the weekend, all my kids, friends and girlfriends, watched LDS conference on TV and had dinner for 18, very nice weekend, ended too quickly.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.022.000.000.006.02

Portland, OR.  48F, 88% humidity, wind N 3 mph.  Great running weather out here in the Northwest.  Got up raring to go, assembled my gear:  heart rate monitor, shorts, shirt, shoes, Garmin, but no socks!  They call this run the dress rehearsal and I wasn't quite dressed, so I put on my leftover "dress" socks from yesterday and I was on my way, thankfully it was still dark.  Left the hotel and ran along the river, 6.02 miles in 58:17, flat shoes.  Warmed up for 3 miles, 10:301 9:57, 10:00 all low heart rate, then near-marathon pace for 2 miles, 8:44, 8:47 then 1 mile cooldown at low heart rate, 10:05.  The marathon pace miles felt good, modest effort but sustainable I think.  We will see soon enough.

This is a pretty superior running city.  Very nice, long trail along the Willamette River, I left the hotel going north and eventually had to cross over to the east side heading back south where I reached the end of the trail at about 3 miles.  I didn't explore to the south on this side of the bank so I don't know how long it is total, but it was covered with runners.  Lots of old guys laying down 7s, good runners here.  I clerked here for one summer during law school but haven't been back since.  Easy to see why they love it here.

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From Rye on Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 14:21:58 from 71.209.52.139

When you get back from a run without any socks....that is a bad run or should I say bad stomach... I don't really know what to say if you forgot socks to begin with....

From Mack on Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 14:28:23 from 71.111.186.66

Nice run Flat. What brings you to Oregon? I live about 30 miles south west of Portland.

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 15:13:01 from 198.207.244.102

Rye, I know, that's why I was glad it was dark. The black nylon just blended in.

Mack, here doing a deal for a wind farm in Idaho, two days of discussions on the supply contract. You should have come into town to run with me this morning! Where do you work?

From derhammer on Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 15:38:31 from 65.67.40.73

I had to run in dress socks once during the day. I just rolled them way down on the ankle.

Hartford weather looks promising - low to mid 40's and dry to start - perfect weather for a marathon. When are you flying up?

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 15:42:42 from 198.207.244.102

I'm going in on Friday afternoon, probably won't get to Hartford until 6:00 or 7:00, hopefully that isn't too late to properly prepare but that is what my schedule dictates. What about you?

From derhammer on Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 15:59:16 from 65.67.40.73

I am going up with 2 other runners from our club. We thought it would be good to go up a full 2 days ahead of time so we could have a full day of relaxing, going to the expo for a bit and eating!

Fortunately my schedule allowed it. I am sure you will do fine. How long is your flight? You will have to do some carbo loading while traveling, of course. Pack some food and hydrate well on your flight. Good luck! I am sure we will see each other in Boston 2011.

From lightitup on Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 17:24:11 from 174.31.70.177

Good times, good confidence, let's go!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.110.000.000.004.11

48F, 85% humidity, calm and clear.   Weather off the charts great this morning.  Ran 4.11 miles in 40:49, average pace 9:55 per mile, low heart rate and brand new flat shoes.  Splits were 9:58, 9:31, 10:14 and 10:00.  I was quite excited about my fast pace at low heart rate, then re-pulled my right groin muscle right after finishing mile 2, just as I was congraatulating myself on a 30-second PR.  I really shouldn't have to deal with a groin pull at low heart rate speeds but there it was.  I slowed down then gradually sped up to about a 10:00 pace.  It felt a little better but not great, it stopped hurting as soon as I stopped running.  I have ice on it now.  Obviously if I can't run fast I can't get a BQ in 2 days.  I think the cool weather left me not quite loosened up.  Crossing my fingers and toes and thinking of braiding my hair.  My sister is sending me some stretches, am in emergency mode here.

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From SlowJoe on Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 13:53:30 from 214.13.130.104

Talk about bad timing... Dang, I hope it is still runnable for you. Keep us updated when you can.

From Smooth on Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 17:08:25 from 67.41.235.104

Crossing my fingers and toes for you that it was just a small little glitch. Along with the stretches, you might want to alternate between ice and heat...it's more effective in increasing the circulation to the muscles.

I really think you will be fine. Like you say the cool weather takes a bit to warm up the muscles. No need to panic! You will do AWESOME on Sat. I am rooting for you! BQ here you come!!!!

From derhammer on Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 17:49:54 from 65.67.40.73

sorry to hear this - use lots of ice and stay off your feet as much as possible. Use ibuprofen to control the inflammation, 3 x 3 times a day. I would suggest not using any heat because it will make the inflammation worse. I understand the circulation part of it but I have been told repeatedly by professionals not to apply heat. Do you have some compression tights or even socks? These can help increase the circulation to the area without making things worse. Don't over do it with the stretches. If you have a pull stretching it may not help that much. Sounds like you should be fine if the pain stopped after you quit running. Unfortunately, because I am so injury prone I know a lot about injuries! :-) Good luck, man, I will be rooting for you.

Remember RICE: http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/rehab/a/rice.htm

From Burt on Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 18:09:13 from 206.19.214.144

Yikes Mark. Good luck to you.

From Smooth on Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 18:14:01 from 67.41.235.104

You know your body best. If it is inflammation, then derhammer's right about not using heat therapy. I am talking about alternating cold/heat for vessels dilation...not to apply heat to inflamed tissue. As for stretching, I'm sure you already know not to stretch a cold muscle. The purpose of stretching is to keep things loose and flexible. It is important to do the right kind of stretches and I'm sure your sister will tell you that.

I am leery about taking ibuprofen or NSAIDS.

You know, I am thinking this may be taper-madness-phantomitis! You have been training so well and so smart about everything. I know you will do GREAT!!!! :)

From baldnspicy on Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 12:34:10 from 72.77.68.219

Hang in there, Flat! You'll do great!

From Rye on Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 14:16:54 from 71.209.52.139

Good luck. Crappy luck at that right now but do agree with the tamper-madness phantomitis....diagnosis. Be mindful of those aches and pains and trust the training if you feel good.

From Smooth on Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 17:06:44 from 67.41.235.104

Safe travel. Rest well tonight. GOOD LUCK. Enjoy the rewards of your hard work and training! Can't wait to read all about it! :)

From Kelli on Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 18:44:49 from 71.219.65.246

I will braid my hair for you, too! GOOD LUCK!

From flatlander on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 19:51:20 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks for the encouragement, all, your support is much appreciated. The grim results are now posted.

Race: Hartford ING Marathon (26.2 Miles) 05:11:14
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.0026.200.000.0026.20

Not a typo, hard to know what to say, everything fell apart to the maximum degree possible, not really a good explanation.  I am very sorry to all who have shown an interest in my running, things didn’t just partially fail for this race, it was a big-time crash.

I can name 4 or 5 factors but nothing that would explain the greater than one-hour difference with my last marathon time.  Just got out my Garmin for the first time since the race and it is showing something interesting, 7:19 for the first mile I measured, which is about the second or third mile in.  Not sure if that is correct, I do recall seeing some early spot paces in the mid-5s, but that is not a possible speed for me.  The Garmin wasn’t working for the first while and I ended up turning if off and re-setting it.  With that caveat, here are some of the earlier splits and heart rates:

7:19 (168)  I think this is mile 2 or 3, but I really don’t believe the time.  My Garmin was just booting up.  If this is correct then I probably ran the first two or three miles at 10K pace, but I don’t think I did.  I practiced a lot of marathon paces in the last few weeks and I think I have a pretty good feel for the correct pace.  The heart rate would indicate a fast pace.  But it didn’t slow down for the later measured miles so I doubt this speed.

8:26 (165)  About right.

8:22 (166)

8:15 (168)

8:19 (169)  Right about here I passed my wife standing in front of the hotel and told her I felt great, my groin was working fine and never seemed like it was a factor, although I think it changed my gait somewhat because my right hip became sore during and after.

8:21 (167)

8:24 (169)

8:26 (167)

8:39 (168)  Stop to re-fill my water bottle

8:28 (170)

8:35 (169)

8:34 (170)

8:25 (169)

8:33 (173)

8:44 (173)  Beginning of the end

8:53 (172)

8:51 (169)

9:39 (163)

11:18 (155)

And spiraling on down from there.  After about mile 22 I was walking, ran a little bit in mile 23 and never ran again, walked all the way in, couldn’t even run down the finish chute.  At mile 22 I threw up all my liquids.  It was a nice effort, a five-er.  Felt much better but totally helpless.  I was weaving on the road a little.  An officer offered an ambulance or a ride to the finish.  Really, a DNF was the only logical thing to do at this point.  I wouldn’t feel any worse sitting here with a DNF than reporting on my third 5-hour plus marathon but I stubbornly walked it out, not sure then or now if there was much point to it.  Anyway, my sister flew out from Spokane for moral support, found me out on the course at about this point and walked me in, very kind of her to do that.  She is recovering well from injuries and surgery and should be logging some more BQs soon.

Post mortem:  The bad things that happened were:

(1)        Groin injury from two days ago.  I almost didn’t start but thought I could get away with it if I warmed up a little bit at the beginning.  After running about a mile at a very slow rate I tried a couple of gentle stride-outs and they hurt a lot.  I seriously considered bagging it, going back to the hotel and driving out to look at the fall colors.  Out of habit more than anything I fell in at the end of the pack and was even a little teary as I crossed the start mat but by the 10K mark I wasn’t feeling any problems in the groin, though it might have changed my stride a little because my hip hurt and it usually doesn’t do that.  Groin is definitely not feeling good today.

(2)        Temperature.  57F to start, 65F at end, according to an announcement I heard at the race.  Not outrageous but I wouldn’t have travelled to Hartford for an ending temperature of 65.  I can get that in Houston, which by the way was sporting a cool 48F on Saturday.

(3)        Course.  Not flat but rolling, at least as rolling as the top half of Ogden if not more, complete with a long overpass at mile 25, just like UVM, not that it mattered by then.  I remember very few completely flat miles, I guess there aren’t many flat marathon courses.

(4)        Heart rate.  At those speeds my heart rate should never have been so high.  I have heard the lore about ignoring your heart rate in a race because it automatically goes up from the excitement and stress.  Not sure what made it go up but a high heart rate is a high heart rate and I am picking this as the main culprit.  I can’t run 26 miles with a heart rate of 165 to 170, no matter the reason and no matter how good I feel.  15 but not 26.  I just ran a 9:30 mile two days ago with a heart rate of 128.  I should have been at 150 or lower for the first half, not sure how to correct that.

(5)        Lingering cold.  I felt OK during the race, but my normal post-race chills stayed with me throughout the day and suppressed my appetite, and I went to bed with a fever.  Possibly induced by the race but more likely already there.  My ears on the plane coming in were uncomfortable and for me that is an indication that I have a cold even if I don't have other symptoms.

The best explanation I have gotten came from my son.  He said the 5:11 is irrelevant.  The factors above each played their part in the crash, I didn’t have enough conditioning to overcome them all at once.  I didn’t pull back when I started to fail, so when I did crash it was in little pieces spread over several square miles. Once I crashed to this extent the rest of the race didn’t matter.

I promised myself out on the course that I would quit, that it isn't worth the effort to keep at this, but I'm already re-considering.  There is a marathon in Richmond, VA in 5 weeks where my brother lives, and another brother is going to run it.  Maybe a do-over?  If I do, somebody has to check out the course for me.  It has to be flat.

Comments
From KP on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 20:05:53 from 173.24.255.248

hang in there, flat!

From Smooth on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 20:26:16 from 67.41.235.104

oh Flat! I am so so so sorry! You have trained soooo hard! Great attitude in evaluating...sometimes we learn more from the tough ones. Perhaps the walking of those last 4+ miles help with recovery. Love your attitude. All that hard training does not go to waste. Recover well and ready to bounce back at Richmond!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 20:47:28 from 214.13.130.104

Bummer, but no need to apologize to us! Anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with your son, whether it was 4:11 or 5:11 is meaningless given you had to walk the last few. I wonder if a slight change in stride might have made you have to work harder (higher HR) for those splits as well?

That is ironic about the temps. I think you're in shape for a BQ for sure, but I guess it's tough when all systems are 100% go (I wouldn't know about the difficulty of running a marathon but I could see how a lot has to go perfectly). Anyway, recover well and re-attack; I enjoy reading about your efforts.

From Kelli on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 22:23:41 from 71.219.65.246

NO APOLOGIES!!! This stuff happens (and happens a lot). We are proud of you for sticking it out and finishing the race. I am so sorry for all of your troubles, dang! This weather is sure crazy, I can not believe the differences everywhere (just one week after St George it was a good 30 degrees cooler in Salt Lake, crazy!)

Just keep at it, be smart, and that race will fall into place.

From Stephen on Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 00:24:29 from 71.195.218.176

I am still shaking my head over this. But your explanation makes a lot of sense. Walking into Church I was praying for you to be able to handle it. I don't know if I would have the will power to try again after that experience. You are amazing.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 00:57:29 from 84.11.148.245

What did you do for fuel during the race, did you take in carbs?

From Burt on Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 03:55:23 from 68.225.214.248

Sorry about the tough crash Flat. You worked so hard, too. Don't give up.

From derhammer on Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 14:49:06 from 24.28.82.222

Sorry to hear about your experience. I know how dissapointing this can be when everything went right during training. If you think you are good to go in 6 weeks you should consider the California International Marathon - quite a few from our group have gone out there and run PR's - very favorable course and the weather is usually good as well.

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 09:03:03 from 76.31.26.153

KP -- thanks for the support, I will definitely hang in there.

Smooth -- you are very kind. Even my wife is telling me to do Richmond and she doesn't necessarily think running is even a good idea!

Joe -- funny thing, I am already convinced my next one is going to be a BQ. You unwittingly stepped in it with the fueling comment. My sister is on me big time for that. I tell her that people run out of gas at 20 miles because that is how far they run in practice. She says you run out of gas because you run out of gas. So we have quite the debate going. Up until now I could hide behind a succession of PRs but I am now exposed and might have to show a little flexibility.

Kelli -- thanks, and congratulations again for your epic SGM! One of the best races of the year on this blog.

Stephen -- thanks for the support. Funny thing, I haven't been that disappointed about this race, considering the total disaster it was. Not even sure what I learned from it but I certainly will never forget it. Some things you just can't make up.

Burt -- I won't.

David -- thanks. I left a comment on your blog. I'll probably do Richmond instead of CIM, if I do anything before January. I try to run Saturday races for religious reasons, but aside from that I have family in Richmond, a brother who is there and has taken in my parents (mother is ailing), so I need to get out there anyway.

From Kelli on Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 09:34:03 from 71.219.65.246

Ah, shucks! Thanks! And way to stick to the Saturday races, it really makes it hard to find good ones. I wish ALL races were on Saturday. Thanks Goodness Boston is on a Monday, that would have created a serious dilemma for me.

From MichelleL on Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 15:28:34 from 67.41.178.22

Wow, what a race report. I am so sorry you had a bad experience. It wasn't as flat of a course as I thought it was going to be, that's for sure. I can't imagine vomiting and walking it in. It'd be almost enough to swear off marathons. Almost. . .

From flatlander on Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:12:08 from 75.223.159.85

Thanks Michelle. I always swear off of marathons at mile 23, even if I'm having a good day. It is part of who I am.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.020.000.000.004.02

66F, 100% humidity, nice familiar running this morning.  Back to the routine a little bit.  Thought I should get out and stretch my legs.  Lots of sore muscles still but gradually getting better.  Ran 4.02 miles in 44:53, average pace 11:09, low heart rate and flat shoes.  Took my daughter to seminary, parked and ran a route from the church then brought her home.

There is an interesting article in Runners World about regular shoes vs. flat shoes.  It was fun to read it because it came to the same conclusions I have reached after running in both for about 10 months.  You are faster in flat shoes but you have to be careful because you are stretching and working new muscles and tendons.  It's like getting into shape, easy to get injured if you overdo it.  Worth it, though, in my opinion, because you are running with a more natural stride when all is said and done.  I will say my legs are pretty beat up from running Hartford in them.  I brought my new pair and my old pair and decided at the last minute to wear the old ones, on the theory that you don't do anything new on race day.  But the old ones are paper-thin on the balls of the feet and there is a 3-miles section on the out and back portion of the course (6 miles altogether) that is concrete with rocks sticking up, kind of a winter traction thing I suppose.  It was quite painful and distracting, though I am not counting it as something that ultimately affected my results.  But I am not talking anymore about results.  Anyway, I am in my new flats now and they feel better on the rough pavement.

Still thinking about Richmond.  It appears to be a rolling course with a hill at the end.  Sounds very familiar, my kind of course.

Comments
From Rye on Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 15:18:27 from 71.209.52.139

Post marathon aches! Good job in getting out. Hope that Richmond will workout for you. End the year on a good note!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.070.000.000.004.07

62F, 70% humidity.  Pretty much ideal running conditions.  Legs felt a lot better today.  I actually have a bruise from the groin injury which traces the culprit muscle, but it is subsiding today and I didn't feel much effect from it.  Same drill as yesterday.  I ran 4.07 miles in 42:34, average pace 10:27 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  The faster pace today shows I am recovering from the marathon.  I probably won't do anything other than low heart rate this week, then start picking things up on Saturday if all is going well.

I filled in my profile last night with all of my races, including 5Ks and halfs.  In terms of my first two marathons, Saturday wasn't that bad at all.  At least I didn't finish last in my age group like I did at Ogden.  I finished in the bottom 20% though, quite a change from the 5K the week before when I finished first, both groups about the same size.

Comments
From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 17:31:41 from 214.13.130.104

I figured it wouldn't be long before you were back logging miles. Good to see!

From flatlander on Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 09:57:44 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, just autopilot, don't really feel like I have started my day until I get a run in. Plus, not time to rest like I would have had if I had qualified.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.020.000.000.005.02

64F, 57% humidity, Wind N 6 mph.  Pretty much a perfect, bone-dry day out there.  Dropped my daughter off at seminary and ran 5.02 miles in 52:05, average pace 10:22 per mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.  Felt good, probably time to start ramping things up a little more, but so far keeping my promise not to push anything this week.  Going out for 10 on Saturday with Wade.

My client sent me an interesting article from this morning's Wall Street Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703673604575550133914934718.html?KEYWORDS=helliker

It is about qualifying times for the Boston Marathon and the ongoing controversy over women's times vs. men's times.  Despite the cast of the article, I am not sure if it is really much of a controversy.  I don't care about it and I don't know of any men who do.  I think it is interesting, however, that the race might fill up really fast this year, will be fun to watch the process now that I am out of the mix.  They have to do something about that, though, even a lottery is better than a 2-hour cattle call or whatever it turns out to be on the morning of October 18.  I have heard rumors that they are going to lower qualifying times, but so far it appears to be just rumors.

Comments
From Kelli on Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 22:22:21 from 71.219.65.246

I actually believe that the BQ times for women are too high. I do not think women are 30 minutes slower than men!

Now, I have a bet going with my neighbor. he just qualified and he is freaked out about getting in. He has this system rigged with 3 computers or something to make sure he can get in. he thinks it will fill up in less than 24 hours. So, I bet him it wouldn't. i get a HUGE frozen Yogurt if I am right. PLEASE let me be right!

Glad to see you are feeling good!

From lightitup on Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 22:28:01 from 174.31.69.135

I was on your team this morning Kelli. However, it's all over Facebook about how fast it is going to fill up; that in and of itself might make everyone panic and register early, self-fulfilling prophecy.

From Kelli on Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 22:28:46 from 71.219.65.246

People need to stop panicking so that I get my yogurt!!!!

From baldnspicy on Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 23:22:52 from 72.77.120.222

Great run, Flat. Nice article too. I don't know about the times, but if they make it harder for me to qualify I'm going to go BNS on 'em! I just about finished my training plan for my first marathon in May. Now I've got to go back and find some seconds to drop... :)

From Mack on Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 13:26:58 from 71.111.190.57

Nice run! Thanks for the article. Boston isn't even on my radar yet, but it will be in the future.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 18:22:16 from 214.13.130.104

Thanks for the article, good post. If I ever get close to a BQ, then it is at that point that they will lower the qualifying times. So no one needs to worry for a few years.

From flatlander on Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 19:05:52 from 76.31.26.153

Kelli, I hope you get your frozen yogurt, you probably know more about this than us newbies.

E, just like when the grocery shelves empty for a winter storm or a hurricane.

BNS, good thing you have a middle initial. I think you will definitely qualify, based on how rapidly your times are coming down.

Mack, you and me both.

Joe, the thing is everybody will just run faster if they lower the times, which is not necessarily a bad thing.

From Kelli on Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 19:08:40 from 71.219.65.246

I really know nothing! I know that last year I kept putting it off and then finally decided to bite the bullet and pay for the two entry fees. Lucky for me I did, they filled up two days later. I guess if everyone is FREAKING out, it may just fill up in 24 hours. If that is the case, something will need to be done. They can not have that!!! Maybe they need to host two marathons? I will gladly run the afternoon one!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.090.000.000.006.09

47F, 92% humidity, wind N 1 mph, clear.  Really great running weather.  Ran a mile in the neighborhood then took my daughter to seminary and ran 5 more from there before bringing her home.  6.09 miles in 59:58, average pace 9:51, low heart rate and flat shoes, no splits over 10:00.  Still feeling good.  This is the first time I have done a low heart rate run in the 9s, which was once a fantasy goal for me.  Gee, with conditioning like that you would think I must have run a good marathon or something.

Speaking of the marathon (we won't call it by name), I whined to my brother-in-law in Omaha, a cardiologist and a 3:00 marathoner.  Actually was curious to see what he would say about the heart rate issue.  Here is what he wrote back:

"I think something must have been going on with you during your last race. It is very odd for you to have such a high heart rate in a long race--I have to believe you were suffering from some subclinical illness (ie. your viral cold) or dehydration, or something. You're right, there's no way you would be able to tolerate that kind of rate for 26 miles.

I don't think the HR is the primary problem, just a reflection of something that's not quite right with the body. In a long run like that you would ideally never encroach upon the HR that represents your VO2-max, until you're sprinting for the finish line at 3:45 of course.

Wearing a heart rate monitor, in my view, is not really all that helpful since everybody's rates are so different and there's no such thing as a high rate that's dangerous. Having said that, in your case it may allow you to recognize when you are having an "off" day and adjust accordingly. Perhaps you may find that you need to ratchet back your pace from the start if your rate is too high and see if your body picks up as the miles progress. I don't know. My guess is that you'd have done poorly in your last marathon regardless of what your strategy was--you're body was just not up to running that day.

I find that there are days when my running is just "off," as I'm sure you've also experienced. I feel good before the run, but immediately I find I can't get my speed up comfortably. This happened last spring when I did a half-marathon in Iowa that I'd hoped to smoke. I took off at the pace I was hoping to keep for the entire rate (about 6:30-6:45, the pace I'd been training at) but found right away I couldn't keep it up. I ended up walking at several points and in the end I ran the worst time I've ever posted for a half marathon. I don't know what the deal was, but I can tell you it was demoralizing. I wore my GPS watch but not my heart rate monitor. It's possible that I might have found, like you, that my HR was too high from the start."

Comments
From Burt on Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 18:59:24 from 206.19.214.144

He sounds like a smart dude.

From flatlander on Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:06:30 from 76.31.26.153

Yeah, one of the smartest guys I know. He has a weekly cardiology blog that is getting picked up by the Omaha paper. Check him out if you want: http://www.blogalegent.com/CardiologyBlog

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.0010.010.000.0010.01

50F, 94% humidity, calm, clear and dark.  Ran with the group at the Y this morning, very nice weather at 6:10 a.m. but nearly stepped in a couple of pot holes because it was pitch black with no moonlight and almost no street lighting.  I'll be glad when the clock switches.  Ran 10.01 miles in 1:27:15, average pace 8:43 per mile, regular shoes.  Didn't intend to run that fast, but I am childish and I just had to stay with the guys up front.  At one point they were running 8:10s, but slowed down to 9:10s toward the end.  So without planning it I ended up getting some marathon pace miles and an interesting comparison to last week's actual marathon.  Here are some comparative paces and heart rates for a few splits: 

 Split

Today (50F) 

 Hartford (51F*)

 Mile 3

 8:07 (163 bpm)

 8:24 (169 bpm)

 Mile 4

 8:14 (167)

 8:26 (167)

 Mile 5

8:38 (165) 

8:39 (168) 

Mile 6

8:45 (163)

8:28 (170) 

Mile 7

8:42 (162)

8:35 (169) 

Average:

8:29 (164 bpm)

8:30 (168-169 bpm)

* They announced 57F at the start, but the Weather Channel website says 51F, big discrepancy.

So today my heart rate for a similar speed (and presumably similar temperatures) was about 5 bpm slower in regular shoes (I wore flat shoes for the marathon), which isn't as dramatic as I would have guessed but it could be significant over the marathon distance, assuming that whatever raised my heart rate in Hartford isn't a factor in Richmond.  But no matter the reason, it is probably still too high.  The whole game for the next few weeks is going to be to try to cram my heart rate down.  If I could run MP at 160 I should be fine.  (Saying it differently, perhaps 160 bpm is my MP, I just need to learn to run BQ pace at 160.)  I think I will run a lot in the upcoming weeks in this zone and see what happens.  It is clear that I have greatly benefited from low heart rate running -- my legs are stronger, more resilient, and faster recovering.  And until Hartford every marathon was a PR.  But I also need to improve at higher heart rates.

During the run today I started talking to one woman who was willing to listen to my sad marathon stories.  She is from England, and told me that the ultimate flat course is found in Edinburgh, Scotland, gentle downhill for 6 miles then flat as a pancake, i.e., flat as Houston.  She ran it once and couldn't say enough good about it, except it got unseasonably warm.  I think she still ran a PR.  It's in May and usually not hot.  It might be time to save up some coins, brush up on my brogue and hop on my first Virgin Air flight.

Well, this concludes my recovery week.  Back to regular running next week if I'm feeling good.

Comments
From Stephen on Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:14:45 from 71.195.219.56

Very nice run! You remain a great example for me. One week seems like a very quick recovery time, but you have usually had quick turn araounds after a marathon.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 17:31:45 from 214.13.130.104

Nice to see someone else taking the macho route to keep up.

Interesting HR comparison. Guess there was definitely something "off" that day as your brother-in-law suggested.

From flatlander on Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 09:26:25 from 76.31.26.153

Stephen, thanks, but don't rely on the arm of flesh!

Joe, thanks. Sometimes I think the analysis is more fun than the actual physical running. I'm hopeless.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.007.100.000.0010.10

61F, 97% humidity, partly cloudy and calm.  Very nice morning out there, I miss the humidity and there was plenty this morning for everybody.  Ran 10.10 miles in 1:29:20, average pace 8:51 per mile, flat shoes.  Warmed up for 3 miles then ran 7 at 160 bpm, fastest 8:12, slowest 8:50, average 8:33, but a big spread for a 7-mile run.  At low heart rates my spread for this distance would be more like 10 or 15 seconds once I found a rhythm.  I am assuming I can run a marathon at 160 bpm, so the goal is to get faster at that heart rate.  This morning's pace for the 7 miles looks like "yup, there it is, 4 seconds under", but the problem is that the last 3 miles were 8:49, 8:47 and 8:50, which means I currently don't have the conditioning to run 8:37 splits for a full marathon, notwithstanding the calculators and equivalent time tables out there which are indicating I should be able to run 8:25 splits for the marathon distance based on my 5K and half times.  They lie, all of them.  On the other hand, it may be that I just haven't run enough at these higher heart rates to be able to sustain an even, prolonged effort, so hoping to run at 160 bpm for the next 3 weeks to the extent my legs can withstand the faster paces.  Then I plan a one-week taper for Richmond and see what happens.

Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:19:25 from 65.67.40.73

Agreed about the calculators - I have run 2 half marathons around 1:30 - the rule of thumb is to double and add 10 minutes - that would be a 3:10 for me. Even if I double and add 20 minutes I still have not cracked that time which is a 3:20.

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 14:59:23 from 198.207.244.102

DH, are we doing something wrong or are the calculators just off for everybody?

From derhammer on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 15:16:32 from 65.67.40.73

A seasoned runner that I know and run with runs about a 19:00 5k and a 1:30 half - much like me. She trains about the same as well. She runs 3:12-3:18 range and she has been running marathons for years so she has lots of practice. I think so much comes down to training, weather, etc. but most of all is the mental toughness-the ability to plow through when all your mind wants to do is stop. This is what I need the most work on. I am pretty sure I have the fitness to run a 3:20 - I just need to believe it and not give up at the end. I think most well trained runners can get through 20 with no problem - it's the last 6 that defines one's race. It is of course is the hardest part.

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 16:04:39 from 198.207.244.102

That could be part of it I guess. Once I throw up I throw in the towell, but the ultra guys just consider it part of the package. I should probably get tougher. I'm going to try this plan for a few weeks and see what happens. Richmond is a bonus race, so if something doesn't work no big deal.

From derhammer on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 16:13:47 from 65.67.40.73

My friend and fellow runner thinks we put way too much pressure on ourselves to BQ.

A few runners have told me that their best races were the ones that they just ran with no pressure. My best 1/2 was when I showed up with no goal whatsoever. I met up with my friend and we just came up with a goal on the spot and I ran a 1:29 - and that was 2 years ago on a lot less training. I am going to try this on my next marathon - go in using it as mental toughness exercise - just to go and see how well I can do without putting too much "I gotta qualify" pressure on myself. I know it will come sooner or later.

BTW - did you see that Boston 2011 registration closed yesterday in less than 18 hours?! That means we have at least 2 more marathon chances until 2012 registration opens next fall.

From flatlander on Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:17:13 from 198.207.244.102

There is a lot to that I think. A marathon is not something you have to get up for like a basketball game. You just go out and do it, the more relaxed you are the better you will do. And yeah, can't believe the Boston situation, they have to do something. I think the New York Marathon model might be better, very aggressive qualifying time (15 minutes faster than Boston across the board) but a lottery too so that regular runners can participate if they are willing to keep trying.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.700.000.000.0011.70

61F, 94% humidity, calm.  Another beautiful running morning.  Ran 11.70 in 2:06, average pace 10:48 per mile, regular shoes and low heart rate.  Was hoping the pace would be a little faster but I was fatigued.  Never felt that good and at the end of the run I was totally wrung out, kind of a bone deep tiredness, actually surprised my pace wasn't even slower.  I may have lost some aerobic conditioning because of the faster miles I have been running lately, a month ago this run would have been no big deal.  Kind of hard to fit everything in that needs to get done, something always gets neglected.

Passed by my favorite Dog behind the Fence this morning, this time he had his little buddy out there.  They were yapping away, baritone and soprano, as I approached from the east.  I let them carry on for a while then growled low under my breath, audible only to dog ears.  There was a stunned silence for about one and a half heartbeats, then all heck broke loose, beside themselves with anger and excitement that I had talked back, in their own language, wish I knew what I said.  I ran back by from the west about 10 minutes later and they had either been pulled back from the front line by their owner or had suffered coronaries.  As entertainment goes, I thought it was a respectable Ipod alternative.

Comments
From Stephen on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 15:43:30 from 204.182.3.235

I don't know about the "respectable" part, but it's gotta be a lot more fun.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 18:08:18 from 214.13.130.104

You gotta have some kind of entertainment for a 2 hr run, nice job. Do you lose aerobic conditioning by running faster?

From Smooth on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 18:16:32 from 67.41.235.104

You crack me up!!!! :D

From flatlander on Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13:16 from 198.207.244.102

Stephen, I'm always respectable.

Joe, that hard core low heart rate guys will claim you lose it anytime you run fast. I think I do lose some but for the simple reason I'm not logging enough LHR miles to keep it up. In fact, anytime I run really hard, over 175 bpm for a sustained period of time, my low heart rate speed seems to actually pick up to some extent.

Smooth, thanks for reading it! It doesn't take much to amuse me.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 01:03:04 from 84.11.148.245

I always learn things when I come to your blog!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.009.450.000.0011.45

61F, 100% humidity and calm.  My kind of day.  I ran 11.45 miles in 1:38:33, average pace 8:36 per mile, flat shoes.  This was a repeat of Monday's workout but with better results.  The plan for Richmond in 3-1/2 weeks is to do as many miles as I can at 160 bpm.  I warmed up a couple of miles, accelerating into the MP miles.  Fastest was 7:57 and the slowest 8:38 so it went pretty well.  Average pace for the fast miles was 8:18 and only the last one was over the 8:37 BQ target pace.  If I can get to the point where I can stay under 160 up until mile 18 or 20 I can probably stumble the rest of the way in.  Still a 30-second spread between fastest and slowest but overall about 12 seconds faster than Monday, not sure how that happened but not complaining. 

My brother-in-law sent me this NY Times article about the level of effort required to be a successful runner:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/19/health/nutrition/19best.html?_r=1&emc=eta1

Obviously I'm not working hard enough!

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From Smooth on Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:31:01 from 67.41.235.104

Have you read the book "Brain Training for Runners" by Matt Fitzgerald? It's a good read on the subject of embracing pain and proprioceptive cues to think about while running.

Keep up the good work! Sounds like you have a plan going for BQ at Richmond. Best of luck!

From Rye on Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 14:09:46 from 71.209.8.194

Interesting article....great run today and I hope that the weather cooperates for you. Got ya by 33 degrees..... on the minus.... 28 in Idaho Falls...burrrrrr

From flatlander on Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 17:07:36 from 198.207.244.102

Smooth, great suggestion, I'll order that book, sounds like it would be very helpful.

Rye, Wow cannot believe your temperatures so early in the year. I grew up in Bear Lake Valley, which is no hot spot, but I'm guessing Ammon has it beat on the cold side, right now at least.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.110.000.000.0010.11

62F, 100% humidity, calm and clear.  I think the weather has been very nearly identical every day this week.  Ran 10.11 in 1:46:54, 10:34 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  It was a good run, heart rate stayed pretty steady throughout.  And my legs felt better than they have since the marathon.  I think the cobwebs have finally been cleared out.  No injuries, so everything is great right now.  I went out an hour late because I stayed up late last night and also had to finish getting some work out this morning, but it was still a reasonable temperature.

Trying to decide what to do this weekend, whether to go relatively short and hard (15-20) or longer and easier.  I can see merit in both, but I am leaning toward long and slow.  Right now my legs just want to run and I don't want to disappoint them.

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From SlowJoe on Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 01:19:48 from 84.11.148.245

I like how your idea of short is 15-20. You are a running machine (finely-tuned).

From lightitup on Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 01:23:15 from 174.31.69.135

He is a running machine, very apt description. Now if we could just sneak some fuel into him for breakfast or somewhere on the course, he will fly! Anyone know a way to feed him without him knowing?

From SlowJoe on Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 01:28:23 from 84.11.148.245

Switch out his toothpase out with Gu?

From lightitup on Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 01:35:00 from 174.31.69.135

Hey, there ya go! Maybe some "chapstick" too, a sleeping pill in his "carb load" of green salad the night before (maybe we could slip it into his lo calorie dressing), then I know how to do an IV while he sleeps.

Hey. He doesn't actually read the comments...does he?

From flatlander on Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:00:18 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, I don't know about finely tuned. More like a bucket of bolts. I figure if I change the oil regularly I can get a few more miles out of the old engine. Somehow, my sister thinks I need gas, but at my age I just burn oil. As for toothpaste gu and chapstick, you guys are evil.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.0010.360.000.0012.36

64F, 96% humidity, calm and partly cloudy.  A little bit warmer but very nice weather, clouds in the east, clear in the west so the moon could show.  Woke up early and was out the door by 5:10, ran 2 miles warmup, 10:29 and 9:19, then hit the gas pedal, working up to 160 bpm after about 3 miles and held it at that for 7 more.  Got 10 miles at marathon pace, 2 better than Wednesday.  Fastest mile was 7:47, slowest was the 10th, right at 8:37.  Wasn't feeling it at first but by the end I was feeling pretty strong.  Amazing scientific discovery, the slower I went the stronger I felt!  Average pace for the 10 was 8:14, about 4 seconds faster than Wednesday.  Overall pace including warmup was 8:29 per mile, total running time 1:44:47, flat shoes.  As good as this run was, it isn't good enough.  I think I have to be able to do about 15 at or below MP and 160 bpm in order to have a good chance at qualifying.  The good thing is my legs are liking this speed so far so I'll keep doing it.

A mini crisis yesterday.  I checked my entry at the Richmond Marathon and saw to my horror that they had entered my age as 54 -- can't believe they wanted me to run against those spry and supple 50-year olds.  I fired off an e-mail demanding an immediate correction.  They politely corrected it to 55, so now I am back at the young end of my age group, plus I can still order off the senior breakfast menu at the Richmond IHOP.  Pretty sick sport we have when it makes you mad to be mistaken for someone younger.  But now I'm wondering if there are cheater geezers our there.  I think we need to institute controls.  In order to haul off your very handsome age group certificate you have to not only present a valid urine sample but show them your drivers license.

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From SlowJoe on Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 17:54:48 from 214.13.130.104

Great pace for the 10, given you didn't have to work terribly hard to get it. What's your strategy for the race? Warm up into MP, or try to bank a few minutes early on in anticipation of a slow down?

From flatlander on Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:33:11 from 76.31.26.153

SJ, you hit the nail on the head with that question, it has been nagging at the back of my head for the last week. I may not have enough reserve to be able to either speed up enough to take care of early slow miles, or warm up ahead of time. Either one soaks up energy. Now that I think about it, though, I think the thing to do is go out easy and give the running gods a minute or two at the start. Maybe they will give it back -- if not, then it probably wasn't going to be my day anyway.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 17:27:48 from 214.13.130.104

I like that answer, seems like warmup miles always make things easier. I would like to reserve the right to copy your strategy if it is a success.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
23.460.000.000.0023.46

70F, 93% humidity wind ESE 3 mph to start, 77F, 64% humidity, wind SSE 11-17 mph at end, almost mid-summer running conditions.  Ran 23.46 miles in 3:54:26, average pace 10:00, regular shoes.  Pretty much maintained the same pace throughout, but I was fighting my head the whole time.  My left foot hurt all day yesterday from something I did to it on yesterday's run.  Then my hip started hurting early in the run today.  Plus I wasn't running fast just slogging it out, it was hot, I had things to do, I had run hard all week, so a combination of things.  I almost came in early several times but ended up making my goal.  I need to run more of these longer runs but they get to me mentally.  I really don't like the way I feel after mile 18 or so, just not fun, no wonder marathons are so difficult to finish.  I got a late start this morning due to some family celebrations last night, but early enought to still run the first couple of hours in the dark.  When the sun came up it was nice for a while then drained my strength for the last 45 minutes or so.  I was dragging at the end, but my slowest split was 10:34 (other than the first warmup mile).  Fastest was 9:36.  Right about mile 23 I tripped and went down, first time that has happened in a while, but my feet were dragging and my toe caught on the perfectly flat pavement.  I was all by myself, pretty messy but unharmed except for a sprained left pinky.  Funny thing, I felt better when I got up and started running again, like it knocked the cobwebs out.  Pretty embarrasssing, though.  I met a friend at mile 19.5 and we ran together for about a mile and a half.  That was a big help.

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From Stephen on Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 16:29:40 from 204.182.3.235

Do you realize you are 4th on the mileage board for this week?

From SlowJoe on Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 17:18:58 from 214.13.130.104

It figures, temps were better for you all week until it's time to run 23 miles! Really nice run - wow almost 80 for the week.

From flatlander on Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:11:02 from 75.223.159.85

Thanks guys. Might have overdone it a bit this week, my ankle hasn't felt too good over the weekend.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

No running today, left ankle bothered me a little more over the weekend than it should have.  I ran some long hard (for me) miles last week and probably overextended it a little bit.  I ran a little bit in my bare feet this morning just to test out the ankle.  It feels better running than walking, not sure what that means.  But I am reasonably confident it will be OK.  Trying to be mature this time and take care of things ahead of time, maybe lose only 1 day instead of 5.

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From Rye on Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 20:20:05 from 97.121.4.170

I've been trying to mature for 47 years now and not having much luck....

From SlowJoe on Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 02:58:01 from 84.11.148.245

Yeah, there's nothing more difficult. Hope you are right and back at it soon.

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 14:41:28 from 198.207.244.102

Rye, hate to be the bearer of bad news, but as someone who is a bit beyond you I must say you are probably stuck with it.

Joe, thanks, it seemed OK today, afternoon now and still no problems.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.150.000.000.0010.15

76F, 85% humidity, wind SSW 11-21 mph.  Really strange, lovely morning out there.  Mid-summer temps and spring winds.  Low for Friday is predicted at 45F, so we are having our typical wild swings in temperatures here, unlike last week which was steady eddie, same temperature every day.  Funny thing is, no rain predicted for the entire week.

I ran 10.15 miles in 1:51:28, average pace 10:59 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  I really slowed down at the end in the heat, not a good run but was glad to get it in.  Left foot didn't bother me much during the run, and it felt better when I got up than it did yesterday, so hopefully I am on the downhill side of that one.  Won't know for sure until later today when my joints aren't warm anymore.

I really enjoy this time of the year, getting ready for holiday get-togethers and enjoying cooler weather.  It's our reward for making it through the summer.  This morning was obviously an aberration, helps us appreciate the cooler temperatures that we have had already and the ones still coming.

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From Burt on Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:24:20 from 68.225.214.248

The weather's beautiful over here, too lately. There's been some rain and a lot of overcast.

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 14:42:18 from 198.207.244.102

Glad you're getting a well-deserved break, your weather issues are much worse than mine, of course.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.613.500.000.0010.11

76F, 91% humidity, wind SSW 5 mph, another very comfortable morning to run -- for half a mile.  Must be losing my heat/humidity mojo already, this one hammered me.  I ran 10.11 miles in 1:38:58, average pace 9:47 per mile, regular shoes.  Planned to run low heart rate for the whole thing to keep my left foot condition from regressing, but at about mile 4.5 I was already hitting an 11-minute pace in increasingly soggy shoes, so I decided to fight back.  I took off at marathon pace for 3.5 miles, 8:30 (first half mile), 8:27, 8:27 and 8:11, then jogged it in.  My heart rate skyrocketed, 178 at the end, much different day than the 10 MP miles I got last Friday at 160 bpm or below.  I guess it's the heat and the heavy shoes, hard to believe it makes that much difference, felt like I was carrying an anvil.  I'll find out soon enough, because the low is projected for Friday morning at 41F, basically swinging from mid-summer average to January/February average in two days.  Good news is my left foot seems fine.

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From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 15:30:59 from 214.13.130.104

Nasty hot temps for late October. Way to get revenge and fight back! I know the feeling. Sounds like all systems are go, and ready for the low temps to come and stay.

From KP on Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 15:36:06 from 173.16.13.61

lovely temps!

nice mileage!

keep working hard, flat!

From Smooth on Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 15:52:47 from 63.228.197.20

I agree that the heat, humidity and heavy shoes does make a difference. WAY to fight back w/ those speedy miles.

So glad to hear the left foot is fine.

SOLID mileage! You'll really kick some major trash in cooler drier weather!

GOOD JOB!

From Burt on Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 16:05:39 from 206.19.214.144

Can you really carry an anvil? Like a full blown blacksmith's anvil?

From allie on Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 16:16:35 from 174.23.195.124

76F? i will trade you some fresh snow off the top of my car for your climate (you can even send the anvil).

nice work today. your mileage is looking great!

From flatlander on Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 15:15:00 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, still waiting, but I'm sure they are coming. Today was third straight +70 run.

KP, thanks, hope you are feeling better.

Smooth, thanks, we'll see. So far I haven't gotten the cold weather pop I got last year about this time.

Burt, actually it was my granddaughter's toy anvil. It is plastic but steel-grey. I hope you don't think less of me now.

Allie, sending the anvil today -- FedEx, a little expensive but worth it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.008.120.000.0010.12

71F, 21% humidity, wind N 14-22.  Wind coming from the north blew out all the humidity, don't ever recall seeing the it this low in Houston.  Thought it was a typo but when I got back it said 15%.  Nevertheless, it should have been a lot cooler by now, I am thinking tomorrow's 40F forecast is going to be more like 50, and Saturday even warmer.  Hey, at least we don't have snow.

I got a late start after getting home at midnight from work, so it was almost light when I left the house.  Ran 10.12 miles in 1:31:06, average pace 9:00, regular shoes.  After warming up a couple of miles I held marathon pace at 160 bpm for about 4 miles then it went over and I bagged the idea, just ran harder.  Average for the fast miles was about 8:36, range 8:13 to 8:56.  I decided to kick in the last mile and it came in at 8:30.  Some kick, legs felt lactate-y.

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From Kelli on Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 19:01:34 from 71.219.65.246

Lactate-Y? What does that feel like?

Now that we are freezing, I envy your weather. I really like winter, but we always have wind and it just makes running downright unbearable (but, really, WHAT is unbearable?)

From flatlander on Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 19:23:25 from 198.207.244.102

Ooops, this is embarrassing. I meant lactic acidy, something that every runner is familiar with. I am pretty certain I will never know what lactate-y feels like. I looked at that word 3 times and finally decided to go with it. Should have looked once more.

From Kelli on Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 20:05:04 from 71.219.65.246

I actually THOUGHT what you MEANT, but I still do not know what it feels like. Guess I am not a runner!!! ;o)

From allie on Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 23:19:30 from 174.23.195.124

yes, at least you don't have snow!

nice lactate-y last mile... :)

From flatlander on Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:02:31 from 76.31.26.153

OK, final word on lactate vs. lactic acid. My son in medical school just took a test on it this week. He reads my blog and said this: "Lactate is synonymous for lactic acid. As a verb it's milk secretion, as a noun it's the salt of lactic acid, which is the form it will be in your muscles, since your blood pH is about neutral." So I was accidentally correct, kind of. Sometimes better to be lucky than good.

Kelli, to answer your more serious question, when some of us lesser runners run too fast our muscles lock up and we can't go any faster, not because we are tired (as in dizzy, out of breath or nauseous) but because the lactic acid builds up faster in the leg muscles than it can be washed out. I think that's what happened to me on the last mile.

From Kelli on Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 14:06:24 from 71.219.65.246

Lesser runners? I think not! I just do not know all of these technical running terms. I know, "It feels good" and "THIS SUCKS!"

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.150.000.000.0010.15

51F, 37% humidity, wind NNE 4 mph.  I lie not.  Wasn't quite the 40F that was forecast but still a 20 degree drop from yesterday, cannot describe how good it felt this morning.  I slept in and went for the flat shoes, a day early, strapped them on and away I went.  First mile 10:56, trying to start easy to avoid pulling something, which I am prone to do with colder temperatures.  Soon sped up, though, and everything else was in the 9s except for the last one, 10:02.  Overall I ran 10.15 miles in 1:40:21, low heart rate, average pace 9:53.  I really don't expect to see many more lows over 60F.  My hands were frozen solid by the time I finished, they felt better after a long, hot shower.  I know y'all are laughing at me down here, but please allow me some time to grow a winter beard and let my blood thicken, it's been a long summer and I am officially declaring it over as of this morning.

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From derhammer on Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 14:49:44 from 192.156.110.34

LOL. I can relate. My son was born in Texas so he has no idea what cold is. It was around 50 this morning and he told me we needed to get him some gloves. I grew up in Omaha so I know what cold is all about! Still, since I have lost so much weight I do feel cool a bit more.

Are you feeling confident about Richmond?

From Smooth on Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:26:03 from 63.228.197.20

You are so funny! I do believe we have the same temp today! It's the kind of winter I'd love to have! :) NICE mileage again and WAY to brave the COLD! :)

From SlowJoe on Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 00:32:30 from 84.11.148.245

I won't laugh at you! Nice run, that is pretty fast for a low-heart rate run isn't it?

My humidity was actually 40% this morning in the desert. Houston being drier = sign of the apocalypse?

From Rye on Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:29:12 from 75.167.173.96

You may not be laughing joe but I am. I have to admit though, you guys are animals that run in that heat down there. Great job today.

From flatlander on Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 22:42:04 from 75.222.20.252

DH, this morning was 12 degrees colder and I was seen wearing gloves, so put me in the same bucket as your son.

Smooth, thanks, right now everybody has relatively good weather I guess.

Joe, what is normal humidity there? In the Arizona desert where I am from it isn't uncommon to be less than 10% Is Iraq that dry.

Rye, you're entitled, I know I'm a wimp.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 01:26:55 from 84.11.148.245

Yeah in the summer when the highs were in the 120s, it wasn't unusual to see 5 or 6%. Now it's probably between 20-50% most of the time.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
25.001.220.000.0026.22

39F, 85% humidity, calm and early.  Got minimal sleep, left the house at 4:45 and ran a few miles in my neighborhood then ran to Wade's and picked him up.  We ran down to the Y then back to his house.  He had to get home early.  I kept going and never got overly tired in these magical running temperatures.  Was planning on 25 at 10 pace just to build endurance but the pace never slowed down so I started pushing it a little bit.  Got plenty tired but not exhausted, then did the immature thing and ran an extra 1.22 at marathon pace just to say I ran a marathon.  Total time 4:11:59 (better than my New Years Day marathon), average pace 9:36 per mile, regular shoes.  Heart rate was under 150 through 20 and under 160 until the last mile, so this was a good run.  I love the concept of negative splits.  That is what I always used to do when I was a teenager, starting at the back of the pack and moving up.  It feels good to finish a run faster than I started it.  Also took a flask of something called EFS.  It has 400 calories of various concoctions, tastes a little bit like a vanilla milkshake with chalk mixed in.  But I tolerated it, trying to be better at getting nutrition on long runs.  Took it at 5, 10 and 15, might have made a difference just not sure.  It warmed up to 55F by the end of the run, still plenty cool but I could feel a difference.  Off to Temple to visit the grandkids, happy weekend all.

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From lightitup on Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 17:52:23 from 174.31.79.73

"Might have made a difference just not sure". You crack me up bro, check your stats. Great run! You will rock Richmond.

From Stephen on Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 18:17:35 from 71.195.219.56

WOW! nice run

From SlowJoe on Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 18:55:57 from 214.13.130.104

Your blog never ceases to amaze me. Nice "long run!"

From flatlander on Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 22:44:01 from 75.222.20.252

Thanks guys. E, whatever, something is tearing my gut up today, hope it wasn't the EFS.

From Rye on Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 21:49:00 from 174.27.103.4

Stud!

From lightitup on Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 22:07:14 from 174.31.79.73

So sorry about the stomach upset, but don't give up! I don't know if you've looked for the science behind fueling...I know you are hard to impress, so this guy is a 3 hour marathoner from Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences and Technology

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2010/marathon-1022.html

From lightitup on Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 22:12:55 from 174.31.79.73

Here is the actual study,

http://www.ploscompbiol.org/mirror/article/pcbi.1000960.html

There are many...that's just what google turned up for lazy me

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.120.000.000.0010.12

74F, 94% humidity, wind SSW 8 mph.  I should never have predicted the end of summer.  It is midnight now and raining hard, so there will be cooler weather tomorrow, night be wet though.  Ran 10.12 in 1:50:50, average pace 10:57 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  Was fine running this one slow, but to be honest there wasn't any particular hangover from the weekend running.  I wish I knew what I did right on Saturday so I could duplicate it.  The truth, though, is that I didn't run it that fast, not that you're supposed to, that's what races are for.  Thinking of running a 10K this Saturday for some hard miles this week, my daughter and her friends are running one in Temple so I might go back out there.

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From SlowJoe on Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 01:28:21 from 84.11.148.246

I think I've been doing the same thing (changing the weather with my expectations of summer being over). Curse this power of ours!

From Burt on Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 01:34:02 from 68.225.214.248

Good luck with your 10k.

From flatlander on Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 12:25:17 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, temperatures are back to normal today, thank goodness.

Burt, you should come out and run it too. You would have to wait for me at the finish line though, don't head to McDonalds until I get in.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.6310.500.000.0012.13

59F, 100% humidity, wind N 10 mph, blustery and rainy.  Pretty dang good running weather this morning.  Cooler and headed to cold in a few days.  Got out late after working late last night.  Strapped on my flats, ran about a mile and a half warmup then everything else marathon speed or faster.  Felt light on my feet, although I reached threshold level the last couple of miles, not so light then.  Ran a total of 11.13 miles in 1:31:33, average overall pace 8:13 per mile.  Average pace for the "speed" miles was 8:03, max 8:30, last 6 were 7:50, 7:47, 7:41, 7:24, 7:27, 7:37.  Started to get real lactate-y at the end.  This wasn't the run I intended to do when I started out, was going to do the routine of seeing how many MP miles I could run at 160 bpm or lower.  But my Garmin was not reading out my heart rate correctly.  It finally went down to 34 and stayed there.  Weird.  Halloween is over.  At that heart rate I was afraid if I stopped I would end up with those electric paddles on my chest.  I am trying to decide how fast to run the 10K on Saturday.  I think I can do a 7:30 pace, which means if I had any guts I would try for 7:15.

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From Mack on Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 17:02:42 from 71.111.190.57

Nice job flat. I'm with you, rainy weather is great running weather.

From Rye on Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 17:03:55 from 168.103.42.63

As far a your pace for your 10k race.. my running friend tells me..... 10cc's of suck it up! good luck

From baldnspicy on Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 22:51:37 from 72.77.120.222

Glad you didn't stop (and die), Flat. Go for the 7:15 and show that 10k who's boss!

From MCKENZIE on Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 23:39:37 from 75.169.116.49

You can totally do a 7:15...GO FOR IT!!!!You'll be so proud of yourself after :)

From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 01:48:29 from 109.70.68.174

Agree. Looks like you just about already did the 7:30 today for your last 6! Oh, and you might want to start running with a defibrillator next time you hit 34bpm.

From flatlander on Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 23:29:52 from 76.31.26.153

OK, how about we compromise at 7:20? I have to run a marathon in 10 days! (Joe, I decided to just go with a new battery.)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 00:19:32 from 195.39.154.10

That's an even better idea - less weight to carry when you're running.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.140.000.000.0010.14

55F, 94% humidity, wind NNW 5 mph and rainy, not steadily but certainly coming down.  I must be losing fat because I get cold in this weather now.  Certainly good running weather, though.  I ran 10.14 miles in 1:47:29, average pace 10:37 per mile, regular shoes.  No idea what my heart rate was.  Finally figured out my chest strap has a battery in it, duh.  Kind of like a pacemaker.  I replaced the battery when I got home and everything is fine.

Well, my friend that I go to church with succombed to her cancer yesterday morning after a long battle with many ups and downs, so I will be spending some time with her husband the next few days.  She was optimistic to the end, even though she knew she would not recover this time.  She knew it was her time and was thankful for the extra years she had been given, she should have passed on three years ago.  She was a kind woman, simple faith, strong; she lived a full and honest life and had no regrets that I could tell.  She was angry when her cancer came back four years ago but quickly made her peace.  She said a month ago that she would soon be sitting at the feet of her savior.  I imagine she is already there, but I doubt he is letting her sit.

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From Burt on Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 00:27:14 from 68.225.214.248

Sad about your friend. You're a good man Flat.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.126.000.000.008.12

57F, 63% humidity, wind N 12 mph gusting to 23, clear.  The rain cleared out and it was invigorating out there, the low humidity and wind made it feel cooler than it actually was.  Ran 8.12 in 1:10:59, average overall pace 8:45, average for the MP miles was 8:21, range 8:04 to 8:35, heart rate 160 (brand new battery in my heart rate strap -- maybe not as good as new shoes but pretty cool anyway).   I was wearing regular shoes, so getting six consecutive sub-MP miles was a slight improvement in this training zone. 

Starting to cut back a little bit.  Pretty interesting article in a marathoning magazine I get about tapering.  He is holding to the gospel of cutting back as long as 4 weeks before a major race, citing study after study.  I haven't achieved much doing that, seems like I consistently run slower in marathons than my training indicates.  He might have identified one of my problems, though.  He says that long slow running during a taper actually damages muscle structure more than short fast sessions and that you can lose conditioning by not keeping up the intensity almost to race time.  Conversely, you can maintain conditioning (maybe not improve it) for up to 10 weeks if you stay intense and short.  Not sure why anybody would do that for 10 weeks, but it is an interesting thought.  Bottom line, I am not tapering a lot this time, and I am going to go ahead with the 10K on Saturday.  It isn't textbook distance and timing, but I want to see what happens.  I don't think there will be much negative come out of it unless I pull something.

Comments
From Smooth on Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 23:31:51 from 63.228.197.20

Good stuff on tapering! I would have a hard time tapering for 4 weeks! Seems like 3 weeks works nicely w/ a gradual decrease in mileage (up to 60% race week). I definitely would keep the intensity up. It keeps things sharp, reminding the body that it's not *on vacation* when your mileage drops. A 5K or 10K race the weekend before is a great confidence builder as well! GOOD LUCK w/ your 10K on Sat.

From KP on Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 00:15:30 from 173.16.13.61

invigorating; nice word.

one of my local running icons (runs anything from a 2:30 marathon to a 16:00 100) is all about the 4 week taper.

i'm always impressed with your high mileage. nice work!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 02:17:46 from 195.39.154.10

Nice run and good info, as always. I figured you also cut back on intensity in a taper, but I hadn't really looked into it. Now I know!

From flatlander on Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 10:13:43 from 75.214.172.43

Thanks Smooth. I think I have been tapering too much, at least as far as intensity goes. I have noticed that I seem to run my best times, even for long hard runs, just as I am reaching the peak of a training cycle. One of these races I am going to try hitting my low mileage two weeks out then "accelerate" into the marathon. At least it would be something different!

Thanks KP, nice to see you up and at it again. Hope you are gradually feeling better.

Joe, yeah, who knew? I think everybody is different, though. They interviewed about 5 different elite runners on the subject and they had more things they did differently than the same.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.010.000.000.008.01

45F, 63% humidity, wind NW 3 mph, clear as a bell.  Extremely fine weather out there this morning, going down to 35 degrees by tomorrow.  It is already colder than when I ran even with the sun up.  Ran 8.01 at 10:20 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  I am proving to myself time and time again that regular shoes are about 20-25 seconds per mile slower than flats.

The "coach" of our Saturday running group just posted results from three races that members of the group have run in the last two weeks:  The Nike Marathon in San Francisco (women only), a local half and a local10 mile run.  The fastest marathon pace was 9:35, half 8:31 and 10 mile 7:51, 53 runners altogether.  After Hartford, it appears that I am right in the mix with this crowd.  We eat too much Tex-Mex and BBQ down here.  I think it's time to fire the coach.

Race: Run For the Fun of It 10K (6.15 Miles) 00:44:08, Place overall: 10, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.060.006.200.008.26

35F, 63% humdity in Temple, Texas, clear as a bell.  Probably the best running weather ever.  I drove up last night after work, about a 3-hour drive from downtown Houston.  When I arrived my daughter had 12 3-year olds over for a final blowout celebration of my granddaughter's birthday, which was actually on Monday.  It was a Beauty and the Beast theme.  I thought it looked more like bedlam.  Good thing I am the grandpa and not the pa, I've done the pa part already.  Conked out on the couch at a reasonable hour and got up at a pretty leisurely 6:00 this morning. 

Found out I had forgotten my pullover, managed to borrow one from my son-in-law, then we headed to the race.  My daughter ran too, along with several of her friends.  One of them is fast, she ran cross-country for UVU 5 or 6 years ago although her 5K is 3 minutes slower now.  I wondered if I could beat her but kept my mouth shut.

I warmed up for two miles, wearing gloves, pullover and beanie.  By the time I finished I didn't need the pullover and after the race started I realized I didn't have my gloves on.  Thank goodness for the beanie.  All the Utah runners would have gotten a good laugh at us.  We were bundled up like it was a trip to Alaska and chattering away about the temperatures.  Really, it was perfect to run a race in, no moisture and no wind.

Unfortunately, the race started up a hill for a half mile, then turned around and came back down to the starting line.  This race was sponsored by the City of Temple so I assume nobody got fired for coming up with this bright idea for a first mile in a 10K.  When I saw it I told my daughter that I had never run a 10K but I was pretty sure this wasn't going to be my day.  The hill is steeper than Veyo in the SGM.  The good thing is it was on fresh legs.  When I got to the bottom I had my first mile in at 7:27 (172 bpm) despite the hill and I knew I had a shot at making my 7:15 goal pace. 

Second mile was 7:10 (174), flat and good surface.  Didn't know if I was being too aggressive with my heart rate or not, but I knew I could hold 170 for 10K distance so thought I might be OK at 175.  Was certainly feeling good.  UVU girl was about 150 yards ahead, she is good on downhills and opened up a pretty good gap on me coming down "Veyo".

Mile 3 7:12 (174), everything hanging together pretty good.  Made up about half the gap on UVU girl.

Mile 4 7:23 (177), another hill out at the end of the course.  Passed UVU near the end of this mile and I started to pick up speed, figured I could do anything for 2 more miles.

Mile 5 7:05 (181), after the 7:23 on Mile 4 I made myself run faster, concentrated on form and on the second place woman, managed to pass her at the end of this mile.  I wouldn't say I was OK but I have hurt worse.  No significant lactate buildup in my legs.

Mile 6 6:55 (185), pretty much red-lining it here.  I had a shot at catching a guy but said "nah, I'm tired".  I would have tried harder if I had known he was 47 years old.

Mile 6.15 (0.58, 6:33 pace)  I think the course was a little short, I measured it at 6.15 and somebody else said they got 6.19, so it probably wasn't full 10K, but pretty close.  Overall pace, assuming 6.15 miles, was 7:10 (7:06 for a full 10K), made my goal, and beat my pace from last month's 5K by a small but significant margin.

I finished 10th out of 80 runners, pretty good day.  (Also finished first in my age division, but let's just say it wasn't overly competitive.  Second place was 27 minutes slower and there wasn't a third place.)  First place overall was 35:xx, not bad but not an overly impressive field.  My daughter got 26th, 8:13 pace.  She has gotten faster in the last few months, even though she doesn't have much time to train with two very small children and her husband being a first-year resident.  As my wife said, "You daughter is more impressive than you."  Thanks dear, I already knew that. 

Here we are, dorky beanie balanced out by beautiful daughter:

 

Comments
From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 00:30:17 from 195.39.154.10

Wow, congratulations!! Breakthrough? Sounds like you killed it, hill and all. It's great to see all those miles pay off for you. I'm thinking an even bigger payoff is coming up in about a week!

From Stephen on Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 01:24:12 from 204.182.3.235

That is reMARKable! Now that you're beating everyone in the fastest age brackets, I would ask if you could run this fast in high school.

From lightitup on Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 01:34:39 from 174.31.79.73

This is going to sound funny but I am so excited for you to beat my marathon PR; you can go so much faster than the PR from UV. See you soon

From Burt on Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 10:30:07 from 68.225.214.248

Geez Louise Mark! Wes is right. You are too fast for us. I'm just glad the lactate build up was in your legs and not your mamary glands.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 10:41:46 from 184.79.24.255

Awesome race! Great job catching the UVU girl. And, congrats to you daughter. Because I feel her pain with two little ones and a missing husband. And, she would have beaten me; so I'm way impressed with both of you.

From derhammer on Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 11:13:46 from 24.28.82.222

Great job - way to push through at the end and pick up the pace!! Also impressive is that it can be harder to push the pace without other runners around. Seems like you didn't have too many if any other runners around you. Great mental toughness.

From flatlander on Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 09:40:18 from 75.223.11.78

Joe, maybe. I didn't think I could run that fast, still happy this morning. It was a pretty good 10K.

Stephen, thanks, high school was a whole different ballgame. About 2 minutes per mile faster than right now.

E, thanks, really not sure what to expect on Saturday, but I have a race plan, I'll just execute it and see what happens.

Burt, there is never enough speed, but I hear you on the gland thing. As you can see from the photo, there is no mistaken me for a girl.

SJG, thanks! Really glad to have you on the blog. I'm sure I'll have the chance to meet you and Joe at some point.

DH, I was pretty zoned in. As my daughter said, "did you see that pretty lake? "What lake?"

From Rye on Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 16:44:13 from 168.103.42.63

Hey, super job! It's always nice to exceed goals. As I can see in the picture...... you married well.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.244.000.000.006.24

42F, 92% humidity, calm and clear.  Almost sunup when I ran, beautiful morning.  Took my daughter to seminary and ran 6.24 miles from the church, 55:39, average pace 8:55 per mile, regular shoes.  Two warmup miles then accelerated to marathon pace, then ran the last one at MP -1, 7:28.

Had some groin tightness from Saturday's frolic so I didn't run super hard this morning, tried to be patient and not push until things loosened up.  Not sure if I ever got entirely warmed up in this very cool weather, but everything seems fine.  Also had a tropical wave pass through my GI tract over the weekend, probably bad sushi on Saturday night.  So much for the party, but I seemed to be recovered fairly well this morning, I don't think it will affect training this week or the race on Saturday.

I am in awe of some of the races run over the weekend by FRB bloggers.  Just some really excellent runners on this blog.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.280.000.000.007.28

49F, 97% humidity, calm and clear, great weather again.  Ran 7.28 miles in 1:11:47, average pace 9:52 per mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.  Pretty good run, might run hard one more time tomorrow but not very far.  Forecast for Richmond on Saturday is 37/63 and dry.  Should be a pretty good day if that holds.

Comments
From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 00:44:15 from 195.39.154.10

Sounds like awesome running weather. Will be rooting for you.

From Rye on Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 08:20:34 from 174.27.113.31

You have been so consistent this year, you will do great! Enjoy that perfect running weather. Winter came to early here in Idaho.

From flatlander on Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:15:08 from 75.223.133.36

Thanks guys, looking forward to the race, it's the funnest part of running, I should race more.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.016.000.000.008.01

61F, 100% humidity, wind E 3 mph.  Very nice, mild morning out there.  I was a little bit anxious about running medium hard this close to Saturday, but I went ahead and did it, would rather be slightly tired than have green legs for the race.  Warmed up for a couple of miles, gradually speeding up, then ran 6 at marathon pace:  8:16 (148), 8:17 (152), 8:26 (153), 8:30 (154), 8:24 (155) and 8:35 (155).  Total time 1:10:08, average pace 8:46 (8:25 for MP miles), flat shoes.

The plan for Saturday is do the first 15 under 160 bpm, the next 5 under 165 bpm and then in theory have a shot at a qualifier by running the last 10K at 170-175 bpm.  There are two things which have to go right -- first, those heart rates have to yield MP; and second, I have to be able to hold on to those heart rates even when I'm tired.  I haven't conclusively proven either one yet, but ultimately I should be able to get more consistent results race to race if I know how much heart rate I can sustain.  I know that 150 is easy, based on my practice marathon two Saturdays ago.  Maybe 160 is too easy, maybe too hard.  I know that 170 is too hard, I found that out at Hartford, and I am pretty sure 165 is too hard based on the way I felt after a couple of harder runs in the second half of October.

After today's run you wouldn't think I could hold marathon pace through 15 at 160 bpm, but I am planning on it being 20 degrees cooler in Richmond, at least at the beginning.  I wish the race didn't start at 8:00 though, way too late.  Bottom line, it might be very close.  I'll take tomorrow off, run 2 - 4 Friday morning, get on the plane and see what happens.

Comments
From Burt on Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:15:51 from 206.19.214.144

Go Mark!

From derhammer on Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 15:55:42 from 65.67.40.73

Good luck, tomorrow!!

From Kelli on Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 16:16:19 from 71.219.65.246

Waiting for a report....hope the race went well!!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.500.000.000.003.50

Easy, no watch or HR monitor.

Race: Richmond SunTrust Marathon (26.22 Miles) 03:41:43, Place overall: 736, Place in age division: 14
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.0026.220.000.0026.22

35F, 85% humidity, wind N 5-10 mph.  Great morning for running.  Ran 26.22 (Garmin measured long, 26.35) in 3:41:43, average pace 8:25 per mile, flat shoes and closely monitored heart rate, BQ by 12 seconds per mile based on Garmin measurement.  Called my wife first, of course, and I think she is more relieved than anything, like a dark cloud has been lifted from over our family.  I have only been running for 2-1/2 years, but it seems like it took a long time to reach this milestone -- wouldn’t have been such a big deal if I hadn’t made it into one.

I didn’t really have high expectations for the race.  After Hartford and based on my training times I knew that a qualifier might not be in the cards; so the goal was to run based on the heart rate strategy I have been developing the last few weeks, not a typical strategy I know.  I did that to some extent but modified it on the fly.  If I hadn’t been flexible I wouldn’t have qualified.

I flew to Richmond yesterday afternoon, met my sister Cheryl from Omaha and made contact with other family members.  There were three siblings running (me, Cheryl, and Daryl from Utah), one cousin from Chicago, plus a local nephew running the half.  Another sister came in from Spokane with her recently returned missionary, a brother from Phoenix, plus I have a brother who lives here with my parents, they are tending to my ailing mother.  So six out of ten siblings, lots of company, should have picked this marathon in the first place, but then I wouldn’t have learned everything I learned at Hartford.

The marathon didn’t start until 8:00, so we got up at our leisure and walked two blocks to the starting line, about 10 minutes before the race started.  No PoP for us today.  The Kenyans were staying at our hotel, those guys are small.  Slipped in right between Corral 1 and Corral 2 and that turned out to be just about right, no jostling for running room in the first two miles.  Due to the cold I didn’t have a heart rate readout for the first two miles until I worked up a little bit of a sweat.  I ran by feel and was happy to see the first mile come in at 8:36.  The pace felt easy and effortless.  I tried to stay extra relaxed in the early miles so my legs could warm up properly.

Splits and heart rates:

1-5:  8:36, 8:22, 8:31 (158), 8:20 (159), 8:33 (159).  I knew my heart rate was higher than I planned, higher than during training at these speeds, but I felt very light on my feet and decided to stay with it.  I took EFS (an electrolyte and calorie supplement) at the end of every five miles through mile 15.  I did it on a practice marathon two weeks ago and didn’t have any trouble, so I stayed with it.  Nothing else but water.

6-10:  8:46 (160), 8:18 (156), 8:45 (160), 8:20 (160), 8:41 (159).  This is probably the section where I got my BQ.  Despite some hills and despite an early high heart rate, it held steady through here.  I felt good and didn’t think I was pressing the issue.  The EFS caused a little bit of nausea the second time, but I took extra water soon after and was fine.

11-15:  8:38 (168), 8:29 (163), 8:23 (164), 8:15 (165), 8:09 (166).  Heart rate starting to climb -- even on the flat sections it was about 5 bpm higher than I was planning at this point.  But I was starting to see possibilities for a qualifier because I still felt good.  The half came in at 1:52:21, about a minute under target pace.  Not much EFS left, but I downed it on the big bridge across the James River.  Not enough left to cause any queasiness.  Everybody talked about what a heartbreaker this bridge is because it is uphill and against the prevailing north wind.  I didn’t have any trouble, though, other than still being worried about my heart rate.

16-20:  8:33 (168), 8:37 (170), 8:33 (170), 8:15 (170), 8:30 (172).  Some more climbing in these sections, but still felt OK, though I was definitely in the later stages.  On the other hand, speed was still there, everything was clicking, just working a little harder to make it happen.  Not any significant hills after 20, so I had a decision point.

21-26.2:  8:14 (174), 7:53 (176), 8:08 (177), 8:07 (175), 8:42 (174), 8:25 (173) and 2:42 for 0.35 miles (Garmin measured .13 long), 7:40 pace and 172 bpm, steep downhill into the finish line.    I had always wanted to actually race the last 10K and I had enough left to do that today.  At decision time I decided to go for it, and it was the heart of the race experience.

At mile 22 I passed Cheryl and Daryl, both  quite a bit faster than me but having bad days, mainly because they tried to hang with our cousin in the first half but didn’t have enough training to sustain it.  They ran a 1:42 first half, 10 minutes faster than me.  I tapped them on the shoulder as I passed and they were surprised and elated despite their own miseries because they knew the BQ saga was almost over.  Cheryl ran 3:47:52 and Daryl ran 3:51:12, so they weren’t far behind me despite their agonies.  My cousin Ronald ran 3:22:27, so we were all 3s today.

My other sister from Spokane (former blogger on FRB) met me with about 2 or 3 miles to go and ran me in, like she did at Hartford.  She was trying to get me to go faster, told me I could do anything for half a mile.  I said “No I can’t”.  I was really feeling those last miles but only missed BQ pace on one of them.  She is the one who has been bugging me about getting fuel during a race, so I’m never going to hear the end of it now.  I’m stuck with EFS until I die.

Then all of a sudden the race was over.  Second half was 1:49:22, so a 3-minute positive split, no stopping or slowing down the entire race.  21-minute PR.  By far the fastest I have run, of course, but more importantly I had a strategy that worked today.  It felt good to execute a race plan and have it mostly work, then be able to modify it when I needed to.  Lots of calf cramping afterwards, time to check into compression socks. 

I was emotional at the end.  It has been a difficult week workwise, and my church friend’s funeral was on Monday, so I thought a lot about Dian during the race.  She is free of cancer at last, and when I felt like I was floating I thought she must be floating too.  And when I was no longer floating I knew it was nothing compared to what she did.

 

Comments
From rockness18 on Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 22:38:58 from 75.42.154.32

Great race and nice report as well- congratulations on the BQ! Impressive.

From allie on Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 22:51:56 from 174.23.238.75

BQ! nice job!

From derhammer on Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 23:22:00 from 24.28.82.222

Great job, you deserve it after all the hard work you have put in. Relish your accomplishment!

From Stephen on Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 00:00:23 from 71.195.219.56

That was one incredible race! I knew you had the heart and the speed. Today, they finally came together for victory. I am so happy for you. Congratulations! I think I know where I'll find you in about a year.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 00:00:26 from 195.39.154.10

Yes! Congrats on a hard-earned, well-deserved BQ. No one deserves it more, I think.

I cheated and checked the results early but waited patiently for your race report and was not disappointed! Way to negative split, that's really incredible. Are you going to run Boston in 2012?

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 00:32:48 from 184.79.24.255

Congrats! What an accomplishment.

From Rye on Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 08:08:36 from 174.27.113.31

What a day. Having a race plan work you got to feel good right now! What a awesome experience at the end of the race. My running shoes are off to you! Congrats!

From Byron on Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 08:51:14 from 71.4.210.12

What a great story Mark. Way to go!

From flatlander on Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 09:38:11 from 76.31.26.153

R18, thanks. I see you just set a PR for the half and you have a full coming up this weekend? Very busy, and very fast times. Good luck and thanks for the comment.

Thanks, Allie. It was a feeling I will always remember.

Thanks David, I'm pretty sure yours is coming soon. You are a very good runner. Amazing how results can swing so much from race to race. As I have been thinking about it, the temperature was probably about 10 degrees lower overall, and that might have been the main difference. But I'll never know.

Stephen, thanks. We missed you there. You were in the minority not being in Richmond. Hopefully that doesn't bother you.

SJ and SJG, thanks so much, very kind. Are you both running Houston in January?

Rye, thanks, still walking in the clouds, don't need no shoes.

Byron, I didn't know you were on here! I'll give you a call soon when you have about 5 hours and give you every last detail, whether you want to hear it or not.

From Burt on Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:22:15 from 206.19.214.144

Great job Mark! I didn't think you could do it. I really didn't. Just kidding. But you've been doing that heart rate technique for more than just the last couple of weeks, right? I like that sub 8 mile there at mile 22. Way to go!

From baldnspicy on Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 18:11:22 from 72.77.120.222

Absolutely awesome, Flat! Huge BNS congratulations to you for a great race AND a BQ! You deserve it with all your hard work, number crunching, and consistent training. Inspirational!

From PRE on Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 21:32:17 from 99.50.214.225

Congratulations on qualifying for Boston. I live in CT. I ran the Hartford Marathon in 2009. You ran Hartford this year. So you were in my neck of the woods. I left CT on the 8th to run Chicago on 10/10/10.

Sorry to hear about Dian. I ran the Chicago Marathon and was involved with fund raising for the Chicago Marathon/ American Brain Tumor Association.

From flatlander on Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:43:29 from 76.31.26.153

Burt, thanks, I know you are joking, but honestly the night before I didn't think I could do it.

BNS, thanks for the support, great blogging with you.

PRE, hi, great to hear from you! Looks like you are having a great time running and doing good while you are at it. Also, you appear to be very organized about your running, I'll start checking your blog more regularly.

From Smooth on Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 13:10:58 from 67.2.111.170

HUGE CONGRATZ on the BQ!!! I am so so so so happy for you! You have worked so hard, trained so intelligently! So excited that your plan all came together for you! Very impressive that you ran a 3 min negative splits especially when there are hills/climbing in the second half. You finished so so so strong! Love it that you RACED the last 10K. That is what the elites do, they have that incredible kick at the end! You are AWESOME! Love your report and thanks for sharing the emotions at the end!

Hope you are recovering well and savoring the victory!!! So is Boston 2012 in the plan?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.313.000.000.005.31

43F, 100% humidity, calm and foggy.  Can't complain about the weather right now, this is the best time of the year for running in Houston, or doing anything else outside.  Back into a routine this morning after taking three rest days following Saturday's race.  Ran 5.31 miles in 46:45, average pace 8:48 per mile, regular shoes.  Warmed up two miles then ran 3 at my new MP goal, 7:59, 7:45 and 7:50, then jogged in.  Felt good to put 8:37 behind me.  My next marathon is on New Years Day, might be too ambitious to get to this pace by then, but it is time to move on.  Plus I don't know when my next race will be after that one, toying around with a few ideas but I am thinking it will be at least April or May before I do another one, and after that summer will be back. 

My legs had almost no race residue in them this morning, so I will probably ramp up pretty fast if I continue to feel good.  The family is planning a big Turkey Trot in a week, 5 miles, need to think about what I can do at that distance.

Comments
From Rye on Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:46:45 from 71.209.24.248

You have trained well to have recovered so well. New Years Day??? Which marathon is that?

From lightitup on Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 13:16:07 from 71.37.143.96

There is one in Spokane, Saturday May 12, 2011. Check it,

http://winderthon.com/

From Smooth on Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 13:22:23 from 67.2.111.170

Wow! you are back at it already after that awesome BQ on sat. You're recovering nicely! The New Year's Marathon should be a lot of fun, in your turf and friendly folks. Wish I was running it!

From baldnspicy on Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 14:33:36 from 167.164.3.140

I think your quick recovery is a result of your very consistent and thoughtful training plan. Great job, Flat! Good luck on your next one!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 23:52:51 from 195.39.154.10

I like it - already working on the next marathon goal, 3 days later.

From KP on Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 23:15:56 from 173.16.13.61

New Years Day?!?! You better behave on NYE!

Isn't the weather wonderful? It is lovely in Alabama too. Honestly, a bit too cold for me, but I enjoy it running wise.

From flatlander on Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 23:58:47 from 76.31.26.153

Rye, it's called the Texas Marathon but it is a small 300-person marathon that runs in Kingwood, a bedroom community northeast of Houston. I ran my first and fourth marathons there.

E, have to look into that.

Smooth, one of these times. . .

Wes, thanks, that race helps me have a little more confidence in my training.

Joe, nothing else to do. Other than that work thing.

KP, I'm usually out by 10 on New Years Eve. It makes me sleepy thinking about waiting until midnight. Possibly the worst party-er ever.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.170.000.000.008.17

47F, 71% humidity, wind NNW 6 mph, clear and blustery.  Very nice running weather, if you are going fast.  Today was a slow day so I stayed pretty cold.  I was colder than Saturday when starting temperatures were 35F.  I ran 8.17 miles in 1:27:13, average pace 10:41 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  Had a hard time keeping a heart rate read-out with the wind, it was about 5 miles in before I started to get a steady read, so I ran mostly by feel but I had it about right.  After the new year I may go back to a lot of long slow running for 2 or 3 months.

I ran into 4 or 5 friends last night who had heard about my BQ.  They all think I am either going to quit now or I should.  I understand the point, but I won't quit until family support wears thin or until I stop improving.

Comments
From Burt on Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 00:03:10 from 72.223.84.236

How do you run so slow?

From flatlander on Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 08:59:06 from 75.223.123.221

Practice, practice, practice. I ran some fast ones today because I knew you would want that.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.174.000.000.006.17

38F, 97% humidity, calm and foggy, kind of eerie out there before the sun came up.  I warmed up for two miles then ran 4 at goal pace, 8:07, 7:49, 7:57, 8:02, heart rate about 165, regular shoes.  I'm short on sleep and time, legs felt heavy, so I called it a day, don't want to push too hard this week anyway.  Pigged out on TexMex last night but slept well anyway, first time since the race.  I was not happy to hear the alarm, but I'll get caught up soon.

Happy weekend all.

Comments
From Rye on Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:00:53 from 174.27.102.23

Nice running flat. Your training has been so steady. Rest up!

From Mack on Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:12:01 from 71.111.190.57

Nice job of easing back into things. You earned the Tex Mex.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 13:22:43 from 214.13.130.104

Mmmmm, texmex. Top of my list of foods to eat when I get back.

Nice MP running as well.

From allie on Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 17:19:28 from 174.23.238.75

nice job with the run AND the texmex.

From flatlander on Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 20:31:12 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks everybody. Joe, sorry about the local cuisine reference. I had to go cold turkey once after I moved to NYC for school, actual withdrawal symptoms.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.130.000.000.0016.13

48F, 100% humidity, calm and foggy.  Very nice running morning, got out the door at 4:45 and ran down to the Y, met up with Wade and ran some miles with the Saturday group, then Wade and I broke off, I dropped him off at his house and ran home.  Total 16.13 miles in 2:33:40, average pace 9:31 per mile, regular shoes.  The last two miles my legs felt like they were about to fall off.  I usually have quite a bit left in my legs, it's my stomach that limits how fast I can run, but today I was still tired from a week ago.  It is now Saturday night and I feel like I ran 20 at a 9:00 pace, not terrible but certainly some residue.  Ready for a day off tomorrow.

Wade and I are talking a big game these days.  There is a 50K in Huntsville State Park on December 11.  We are thinking it would be a good training run, certainly wouldn't want to race that distance right now.  Maybe sanity will return in the morning.

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From Rye on Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 09:33:26 from 174.27.85.112

Once you talk about something it seems like the next step is doing it! Sounds fun?

From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 17:08:24 from 214.13.130.104

Bah, I'm pretty sure I've seen you do a 50K training run before. I agree with Rye, sounds like fun? No problem. Coming from the guy whose legs almost fell off after 18.

From Smooth on Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 19:56:23 from 67.2.111.170

WOW! NICE mileage just a week after your awesome BQ performance! That 50K does sound fun! You got to enjoy the lovely weather while it lasts! :)

From flatlander on Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:48:28 from 198.207.244.102

Rye and Joe, woulda been fun but I pulled out, seemed the sane thing to do with some other stuff going on that day.

Smooth, today was actually too warm but it felt nice even if it slowed me down a little. I know there won't be many of these left for the next 4 or 5 months. Warm again tomorrow morning then the temperature plunges again. I think it will be about 32 on Thanksgiving morning, which is pretty cold for that early in the year around here.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.254.000.002.0010.25

63F, 100% humidity, wind SSE 5 mph.  Lots of warm humid air coming in from the Gulf this morning, kind of nice out there.  I warmed up two miles, then ran one at MP, 8:11, followed by a fast mile at 6:34.  I was hoping to do two but one was all I could manage.  In better conditions I might have managed one and a half or even two but five at that speed on Thanksgiving morning is going to be out of the question.  Fun to dial in on some new paces though.  Ran a cooldown mile then back to MP plus a little for three miles, 8:23, 8:13, 8:07, then another fast one, but this time only 6:57 even though I felt like I was working harder than the first one, cooldown 1.25 miles.  Maximum heart rate 189.  Overall I ran 10.25 miles in 1:29:07, average pace 8:42 per mile, flat shoes.  Legs feel OK so far this morning.

Wade and I decided not to do the 50K on December 11 in Huntsville.  We are congratulating ourselves on how mature we are.  Both of our wives are completely supportive of our adventures, and both of them completely don't understand any of it.  With a holiday party at my house the night of December 11 it was looking a little dicey shall we say, so I pulled the plug and Wade is OK with that.

Comments
From KP on Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:56:58 from 65.208.22.25

you soooooo need to step into ultra land. you will love it!

From Burt on Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:02:52 from 206.19.214.144

Huntsville? If you see KP, ghve her a big wet kiss on the lips from me. Tell her it's ok. I'm a veteran.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 00:22:23 from 195.39.154.11

6:34! Nice. It's fun to look down at your watch and see 6-something, isn't it?

From Rye on Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 08:14:22 from 174.27.85.112

The only time that I see six something on my watch is in the morning. Nice run flat, you are Mr. Consistent!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.550.000.000.0010.55

71F, 96% humidity, wind S 4 mph.  Nice and muggy run out there today.  On the other hand, my son saw this weather alert issued by BYU today:

"The National Weather Service is warning of a winter storm today that “will far surpass anything that we've seen, probably for the last several years.” The combination of snow, extreme cold, and possibly damaging winds will make travel extremely hazardous. The storm will begin in the north and move south, hitting Salt Lake City later this afternoon. Please watch the weather reports and be prudent in your travels."

This sounds like a dangerous situation for kids trying to get home for Thanksgiving.  No whining here about November muggy.  I ran 10.55 miles, half by myself at low heart rate and the second half with my daughter at a faster pace in the low 9s.  Total time 1:46:19, average pace 10:05 per mile, regular shoes.  She is in from Temple for the holiday.  Running with her in my neighborhood, I can tell by the look on people's faces that my stock has gone way up.

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From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 01:22:38 from 109.70.68.174

I love Texas. I really do.

Glad your daughter could help out your reputation.

From Rye on Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 08:30:37 from 174.27.109.204

We got that storm in Idaho. Unbelievable! Bask in that Texas weather. Find me a job over there!

From Stephen on Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 08:58:41 from 174.52.135.96

Lots of talk, not much action with the weather. We finally got a few scurries of snow last night, but the streets in Orem are still mostly clear. It's 9 degrees outside, with a forecasted high of 18.

I don't know what they got in Salt Lake county.

From Rye on Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:13:20 from 174.27.109.204

It wasn't talk in Southeastern Idaho.... Snow and wind and closed roads and now cold temps!

From flatlander on Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 16:28:48 from 75.223.137.105

Joe, yeah, got a badly needed boost out of that one.

Rye and Stephen, you should both move down. Just send your resumes. I run a placement service on the side. It's free, although I have heard it whispered that my price is just about right.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.090.000.000.0010.09

73F, 93% humidity, wind SE 10 mph.  Warm and moist morning, ran 10.09 in 1:42:27, average pace 10:09 per mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.  OK run under the circumstances.

Race: GE Run Thru the Woods (5.05 Miles) 00:36:28, Place in age division: 6
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.000.000.005.056.05

77F, 86% humidity, wind S 15 mph.  A beautiful morning to be out and about, perhaps it could have been a little bit cooler for the race!  We decided to do our turkey trot in a planned community north of Houston called The Woodlands.  They have lots of trails out there and lots of runners.  Woodlands High School regularly wins or places high in the state cross-country meet.  I looked up my age group times from last year and saw that the winner ran 6:22 per mile, out of my reach even on a good day.  Now I know where all the fast age groupers in Houston live.  Obviously I had won my age group in the Komen 5K too easily last month.

I drove out early, intending to warm up for four or five miles, but ended up running around getting everybody's envelopes and attending to GI details. (Note to self, don't do mexican the night before a race -- it was worth it though.)  I did manage to run one mile very slowly, but with these temperatures I wasn't too worried about not getting warmed up.  The race started about 15 minutes late because of some medical emergency out on the course from an earlier race, not a good omen.

I tried to line up about 150 runners back but got behind a bunch of slow runners anyway.  A lot of elbows flying in the first quarter mile before I finally broke free.  Despite the bob and weave, the first mile was 7:02, anyway, followed by a 6:56 that included a climb over an overpass, but I knew I couldn't sustain it.  Splits after that were in the 7:20s, really felt the heat.  Had to climb the same overpass coming back in, pretty tough, plus the course was longer than 5 miles.  The Garmin measured the first 4 miles short, then the last one was 1.1, so I don't trust the course length, I'm calling it by the Garmin, 5.05 miles.  Splits and heart rate were 7:02 (169), 6:56 (180), 7:25 (182), 7:27 (183), 7:20 (186), 0:21 (6:52 pace) (193).  (I felt like I worked hard, final heart rate was 4 beats per minute higher than I have ever seen it, and that was an average for the final sprint, I still don't know for sure what my max is but this has to be pretty close, I was over 190 for the last half mile or so.)  Overall 36:28, average pace 7:14 per mile.  6/70 in age group, leaving some unfinished business for next year -- don't know my overall place yet.  I ran the 10K 3 weeks ago at 7:11 per mile (Garmin) at 35F, so this was a better time after adjusting for the 42 degree difference in temperature.

I ran with my mother in law, father in law, two daughters, one son and a daughter in law.  We had a great time.  My daughter finished 10th out of about 140 in her age group, so she got a higher relative placement than me.  My mother-in-law finished third in a small age group, hardware territory, she will get a plaque in the mail.  The race is very well organized and friendly, and they served lots of food afterwards, including a pancake breakfast that was excellent.  This is definitely the race to do if you are ever in Houston over Thanksgiving.

Here are the happy runners, managed to get a picture in before everybody headed indoors for badly needed showers.  We let my granddaughter Kate in the picture because (i) she insisted and (ii) she ran a whole lap at the track earlier this week.  She was playing with dolls on the grass with her friend while their mothers worked out.  Then without any encouragement she laid her doll down and decided to get in on the action.  She ran a full quarter hard without slowing down, just put her head down and went for it.  Unfortunately it wasn't timed but we are pretty sure it was an age group record.  We are ecstatic to pass the torch to the next generation, the rest of us are getting tired.  :

Left to right:  Kate, Jennifer, Walt, Helen, me, Clint and Becky.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Comments
From lightitup on Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 15:11:38 from 71.37.143.96

Nice! Did you beat Clint? :)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 20:23:20 from 109.70.68.174

Another great race for you. With that kind of temperature increase I definitely agree that this 7:14 pace is at least as good as a 7:11 10K. Bad luck that it's still getting that hot over there, I hope the warm outliers are gone soon, for both our sakes.

From Burt on Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 22:31:52 from 72.223.84.236

I always love reading your blog. And I especially like how non chalant you are about how fast you're running these days. Great job on handling the GI.

From Stephen on Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 23:07:06 from 174.52.135.96

Very impressive run again. I love the picture: 4 generations of active runners!

Houston was 70 degrees warmer than Orem this morning!

From Kelli on Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:56:46 from 71.219.65.246

Sounds like FUN!!!!!!!! Hope you had a great Thanksgiving.

Your granddaughter is CUTE, she can be in the picture just BECAUSE, right???

From flatlander on Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 16:25:51 from 75.223.137.105

E, yup, but he isn't training right now, he and Becky ran mainly to make me happy. He is actually a very good runner but as a medical student he has no time for this foolishness.

Joe, thanks, if today was any indication we just had our last warm outlier.

Burt, thanks, much appreciated. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving.

Stephen, we got back a little bit of that differential this morning, and it will drop at least 10 more degrees by tomorrow.

Kelli, thanks for checking in, this has been a really great Thanksgiving at our house, hope things are going well at yours. And yes, Kate knows I will say yes to almost anything and is quite adept at working the angles between parents and grandparents.

From Kelli on Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 23:18:14 from 71.219.65.246

I am still trying to get over the "grandpa" thing. I had to double check and make sure I read that right. I had not idea you were OLD. :o)

From Burt on Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 00:33:15 from 72.223.84.236

Kelli - I guess you never saw that picture of him and I together. He's way old! He's like the crypt keeper.

From Smooth on Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 00:42:33 from 67.2.111.170

CONGRATULATIONS to the whole family! That is so AWESOME!!!

WOW!!! You are FAST...and don't let anybody tell you otherwise! Very impressive!

I'll have to remember that race if I ever spend Thanksgiving at my daughter's again. Couple years ago I was there and wanted to run the Houston Turkey Trot but didn't.

From Kelli on Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 12:12:44 from 71.219.65.246

Burt, when was this picture??? I lose track, you meet so many people.

From Burt on Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 12:31:16 from 72.223.84.236

http://burt-mccumber.fastrunningblog.com/blog-01-30-2010.html

From Kelli on Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 16:01:03 from 71.219.65.246

AH, I vaguely remember this! I do remember the course description perfectly, though.

He does not look old there, either.

From flatlander on Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 18:18:35 from 75.223.146.145

Kelli, sadly Burt is right, though I hate to admit it. Down here in Texas we have a battle call, "Remember the Alamo." Well, I remember the Alamo.

Smooth, you might be the most likely blogger to run that one other than me. Hope to see you down here at some point, whether for that one or something else.

From Kelli on Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 00:11:41 from 71.219.65.246

What is the Alamo??? ;o)

From flatlander on Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 09:59:10 from 75.214.241.5

You are too young to remember, but that was where Davy Crockett met his demise. (The original, not our beloved fellow blogger.)

From WifeOfAFastKid on Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:52:29 from 63.252.155.138

That was a really great day! I didn't put this on my running profile, but my real goal is just to be as fast as Grandma Helen!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
21.310.000.000.0021.31

44F, 76% humidity, wind N 9 gusting to 18, rain and temperature dropping.  Conditions could hardly be more changed from 24 hours ago.  I woke up at 2:30 this morning hardly able to contain my excitement.  Tossed and turned for two and a half more hours and finally got up at 5:00 and headed out for my first Black Friday adventure.  It was dangerous out there, everybody driving with blank, exhausted stares but highly competitive trying to be first in line at their favorite store.  Bad combination.  But I won.  First in line (open category, not age group, didn't even get chicked, nuthin' but net), in the door at 6:00, got all my stuff and was home by 6:30.  Let's just say I am not a deliberate shopper.  I should have filed this as a race report.

Oh yeah, long run is today instead of tomorrow, wasn't nearly as excited about that.  In fact you could say I had a bad attitude.  I bundled up and put on a rain jacket which felt great for half a mile then turned into my own private sauna.  Back to the house after a mile to shed the jacket, cold and wet was going to be the way to go.  Ran another lap and met my father in law but he had no interest in my plans for the morning, so I was on my own.  I hoped to run 20, half at 9:00 pace and half at 8:00 pace.  Not even close.  If you believe that you improve most on a bad day, then I must have had a great run today.  Finished up about five miles in the neighborhood then headed down to the Y and back.  Bathroom was locked at the Y.  That is the second time in a week that has happened, you would think they don't like runners.  I held the 9:00 pace for a while but it started to slip and I never got it back.  My legs were sore from yesterday and stayed that way.  It was just a gut-it-out run.  Finally finished 21.31 miles in 3:23:10, average pace 9:32 per mile wearing regular, soaked shoes.  Hit a lot of puddles today.  The rain finally quit the last half hour and my fingers thawed out in the last mile or two.  My legs are still sore though.  That is all.

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From allie on Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 17:36:27 from 174.23.238.75

very nice run. i can't think of anything better to do the day after thanksgiving! way to get out there.

impressive shopping, too. :)

From Smooth on Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 00:44:16 from 67.2.111.170

WOW!!! My jaw just dropped to the floor! You ran 21+ miles on a cold rainy day the day after an awesome FAST 10K. And then you went shopping afterwards?!!! You are superhuman!!! VERY NICELY DONE!!!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 02:12:47 from 109.70.68.174

Congrats on the Black Friday win. Sounds like you burned off a couple turkeys worth of calories too!

From flatlander on Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 18:24:15 from 75.223.146.145

Thanks all for noticing my shopping skills. If this running thing doesn't work out I might have an alternative.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.430.000.000.0011.43

55F, minimal wind, clear and dry.  We had the assignment to clean the church at 8:00, so waited until afterward to take advantage of the cool weather for a late morning run.  11.43 miles in 1:37:57, average pace 9:18 per mile, regular shoes, no heart rate monitor.  I ran this one with my daughter, one last run before she returned to Temple with the grandkids, she has been here all week.  She only wanted to go 10 but hung with me for the rest of the run and did fine -- started out very slow to humor me then stayed with me the whole way.  Since I normally do long runs on Saturdays and take Sundays off, I don't get to test out the training theory of running a medium run the day after a long run so as to force using different muscles.  I guess that's the theory anyway.  I was surprised at how well this run went, much better than yesterday.  Was nice to run in the broad daylight and not worry about the heat.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.168.000.000.0010.16

67F, 93% humidity, wind S 3 mph, moving to SE 8 mph, cloudy and threatening but no rain.  Crazy warm this morning, but pleasant in its own twisted way.  Felt relatively good after my day off so I ran pretty hard.  10.16 miles in 1:24:01, average pace 8:16 per mile, flat shoes.  Warmed up 2 low heart rate miles, 10:30 (122) and 9:31 (131), then ran 8 a little faster than goal marathon pace, 12 seconds per mile slower than projected goal half marathon pace although I don't think I could have sustained it for a half marathon this morning anyway.  Splits were 8:02 (148), 7:54 (156), 7:34 (162), 7:43 (163), 7:51 (166), 7:52 (167), 7:48 (171) and 7:40 (173), then a short cool-down. Average pace for the fast miles was 7:48.  This run was harder than it should have been, but I am blaming it on the weather.  In any event it will be a good baseline comparison as I try to do a lot of these miles over the next month getting ready for New Years Day, to the extent my legs can withstand the faster pace.  That strategy worked for Richmond so I will stick with it for now.

 

Comments
From KP on Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 09:48:26 from 65.208.22.25

wish it was that warm here! i'm tired of the cold already :)

From Smooth on Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:08:06 from 67.2.111.170

LOVE LOVE LOVE all those 7s pace! NICE run! GREAT start of the week!

From Stephen on Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:18:32 from 204.182.3.235

Good job!

From derhammer on Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 16:06:20 from 65.67.40.73

Nice job - hopefully you found this morning a bit cooler. :-)

From flatlander on Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 16:15:19 from 198.207.244.102

KP, check out our temperatures for Wednesday!

Thanks Smooth, just saw that you are going crazy in the cold up there. Good miles this week.

Stephen, thanks, if I ran in your weather I would become bald. Wait, you run in that weather and . . .

David, thanks, I certainly did, it's been a fun week with all the weather changes.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.190.000.000.0010.19

49F, 36% humidity, wind NNW 21 mph gusting to 28 mph.  New personal wind speed record, very invigorating out there.  I got up way early to get some work done, so it was 7:30 before I got out the door.  When I got up it was 57F and a light breeze, then it rained, then it started blowing, then I ran.  Was debating whether to wear a long-sleeved shirt and was glad I did, with this weather blowing in I was a genuine FRB blogger out there this morning.  I intended to run 8 slow because I was short on time but before I knew it the wind was blowing me down the road, and I couldn't let up coming back.  Ran 10.19 miles in 1:27:23, average pace 8:35 per mile in regular shoes (no heart rate monitor), so MP + 30, faster than I thought I would feel like running for a recovery session.  I had aches and pains all over last night but woke up fine and still feel fine this afternoon.  Not a whole lot of value for me running this pace, I get more benefit going either faster or slower, but it was fine for today.

Comments
From SlowJoe on Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 18:03:50 from 214.13.130.104

Some nice MP work yesterday, good to hear it doesn't do much damage. I probably run a lot in that no-mans-land pace, so don't feel too bad.

From flatlander on Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 16:17:45 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, I can do a lot of things but I can't make myself run slow in the wind. That is just too much.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.150.000.000.0012.15

28F, 91% humidity, calm and clear.  A really great morning for running.  12.15 miles in 1:57:48, average pace 9:42 per mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.  I had a 9:39 pace at the 10-mile mark, better than my previous low heart rate best on October 29 (9:53), although the temperature on that day was 51F.  This may be one of the coldest days I will run in this winter unless I am somewhere other than Houston, it doesn't get into the 20s very often here.  As long as it is dry I can run pretty cold without any problems, although I have no interest in finding any lower limit, I'll rely on the Idaho bloggers to tell me what the lower limits are.  I am wondering if there is much difference between running at 50F and 30F.  Most people say you don't get slower until the thermometer breaks 60, but I am starting to wonder.  It doesn't get cold enough here often enough to tell.

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From Mack on Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 17:42:16 from 71.111.190.57

Nice run Flat. When I lived in Nebraska I used to run in sub zero temps and wind chills. Never monitored my heart rate, but I always felt great and found it exhilirating.

From Mack on Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 17:48:15 from 71.111.190.57

You ran a 3:41 marathon??????? How did I miss that? You are AMAZING!!!!!!!! You went from a 6:21 in 2009 to a 3:41 now? Wow. Seriously Flat, Wow.

Sorry to only be realizing this now. I haven't been watching your blog lately. You inspire me! I really have no excuse to not get my rear end qualified for Boston.

From Smooth on Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 19:01:12 from 67.2.111.170

Your temp this morning is almost the same as ours here in Utah this morning! I think the perfect temp to run is in the 50s. Most PRs are achieved in Temp b/w 50-55.

I will run in single digit temp as long as the road is not too icy and there is relatively no wind. The worst part is the first mile when the feet/toes hurt like heck.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 00:49:58 from 109.70.68.174

28 degrees in Houston - I'm guessing the entire city shut down and KPRC started getting everyone into panic mode about the dangerous winter ice!

I've also been wondering about where the apex of the performance curve is, temperature-wise. I noticed a pretty good boost just from 60 down to 50, and my favorite running temp is 40.

From Rye on Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 07:57:03 from 168.103.132.65

I should monitor my heart in our cool temps here in Idaho. That being said, I feel like that 25 to 30 degree mark is the cut off on the low end. I am with joe, 40 seems to be perfect for me. With the humidity real low, 50 to 60 is real nice. Nice miles as always.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.076.002.000.0010.07

35F, 80% humidity, calm.  Great to have 30+ again after our extended 24-hour winter, nice balmy weather to be out and about in.  Ran 10.07 miles in 1:22:57, average pace 8:14 per mile, flat shoes.  Ran two warmup miles, then 6 at goal MP, then 2 trying to get to a 10K pace, didn't make it except for the last quarter.  Splits were 10:04 (125), 9:15 (134), 8:02 (148), 8:02 (152), 7:55 (156), 7:54 (158), 8:07 (159) 8:00 (160), 7:33 (165) and 7:24 (169).  Was able to run 6 MP miles and keep my heart rate at or below 160, felt like I might could do more.  Funny thing, though, I was very fatigued even though I had a relatively low heart rate, and definitely could not have run a marathon at this pace, maybe related to lack of sleep?  Work has been a bear the last couple of days.  When I wasn't paying attention my heart rate would go down instead of up, opposite of what usually happens.  Legs feel fine this afternoon.

Comments
From baldnspicy on Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 21:01:55 from 72.77.120.222

You're back to normal! Great job. I like the negative splits, speedy!

From flatlander on Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 12:59:12 from 198.207.244.102

BNS, thanks, you're right, I forgot about the negative splits, can't do that.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.330.000.000.0013.33

45F, 97% humidity, calm and clear.  Best running weather ever this week, except Tuesday.  Wade has golfing plans in the morning, taking a mutual friend to one of the better courses in town as a reward for getting past his throat cancer.  So today we decided to go longish and slow.  I ran to his house and picked him up, then we did his neighborhood and mine, all low heart rate.  Turns out his heart rate is higher than mine on the low end, mine is higher on the high end, not sure what it means.  13.33 miles in 2:12:59, average pace 9:59 per mile, flat shoes.  The last mile was under 10, first time I have been able to run this far LHR and stay under 10 minutes throughout, felt like I could go further with the same result.  Wade was marveling about how good he felt.  About 3 miles in, still dark, I was bragging that I didn't care, I knew this route so well I could run it blind.  Just then I tripped on a lip in the concrete and went down hard.  Scraped up my whole right side, hand, elbow and knee, some of it looks pretty ugly.  Those running gods, they can hear you.

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From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 04, 2010 at 00:52:24 from 109.70.68.174

Good to hear you were able to finish up the run after the spill. The running gods seem to punish me with injuries when I mention how good and healthy I feel, so I try to complain instead.

From lightitup on Sat, Dec 04, 2010 at 01:10:25 from 71.37.143.96

hey that's exactly how many miles I did today! Usually I do 10% of what you do. Sorry about the fall. :(

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.178.002.000.0022.17

59F, 92% humidity, wind SSW 6 mph, warm and moist, perfect running weather.  Warmed up to 62 by the end of the run.  The goal was to run first half at MP + 1, then 8 at MP, then 2 at 10K pace with last quarter at 5K pace.  Missed the 10K pace but got everything else.  I ran the first 10 at 8:50 per mile (heart rate stayed under 150), then moved to goal MP for 8 miles and managed to keep everything at 8:00 or below:  7:56, 8:00, 7:50, 7:53, 7:40, 7:49, 7:47 and 7:59.  Then I "sped up", all the way to 7:41 and 7:36, the last one aided by a 7:00 pace on the last quarter.  Those last two miles should have been 7:15 and 7:00 based on recent 10K times. 

No heart rate issues, didn't hit 170 until the last 2, and didn't hit 175 until the last quarter, my legs were just tired, in particular my left hip flexor which started to hurt at about mile 8 and never resolved itself completely.  I cooled off for 2.17 hoping my hip would loosen up but it didn't really help much.  I'm OK I think.  Total distance 22.17 in 3:09:10, overall average pace for the run was 8:32, ran in flat shoes.  I ran every day but one this week in flat shoes, I seem to be getting used to them.  Average pace for first 10 was 8:50, second 10 7:47, and overall pace for 20 was 8:19. 

I checked my heart rate on the 8 mile segment against an 8-mile MP run I did on November 29.  For the first 4, my heart rate today was higher, since I was just coming off of 10 slower miles, but it didn't climb as fast.  By mile 18 my heart rate was 168, 5 bpm lower than mile 8 of the 11/29 run.  The temperature was about 7 degrees warmer then, so that might explain some of it, but I'm hoping some of the difference is because I'm getting better. 

All in all, I am happy with this run.  Not ready to run a 3:30 marathon yet, but I have two more weeks before I taper -- a little more conditioning, a little cooler, a short hard taper and some good nutrition during the race (thank you, Elaine) -- who knows, I might make a respectable assault if I am having a decent day.  Running is fun right now.

Comments
From Stephen on Sat, Dec 04, 2010 at 11:54:28 from 204.182.3.235

Very nice run. You are amazing!

From Burt on Sat, Dec 04, 2010 at 12:18:53 from 72.223.84.236

What the heck are you doing? You already qualified for Boston. What more do you have to prove?

From baldnspicy on Sat, Dec 04, 2010 at 16:16:25 from 72.77.120.222

You're really doing well, Flat! You're an excellent example of consistency and PATIENCE! Great job with the flats too. Don't mind Burt. He's just jealous.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 04, 2010 at 18:42:20 from 214.13.130.104

78 miles this week. 78! Nice workout today, that second 10 mile stretch makes me think you have a really good shot at 3:30. I am learning a lot about running from your blog, and now I'll get to watch you take a shot at 3:30 before I give it a hack. Very helpful!

From derhammer on Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 11:44:57 from 24.28.82.222

You are running phenomenally! Are you going to run a half or a full? How do you not get worn down? :-)

From flatlander on Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 17:53:13 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks Stephen, don't freeze up there.

Burt, just trying to find my limit, then I will become a reasonable person, promise, until I manage to move West and hit the trails. Must have pushed pretty hard, I'm still feeling it a little bit today.

Wes, thanks, hope your foot continues to improve.

Joe, it's like a golf putt. You can take a read off mine and then run it 15 minutes faster.

David, thanks, your run wasn't so bad either!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.2210.000.000.0012.22

35F, 78% humidity, wind NE 1 mph.  Clear and cold, almost too cold but pretty good running weather.  I ran in regular shoes without a heart rate monitor.  Two warmup miles then 10 at goal MP.  Very difficult run, partly because of the heavier shoes and partly because I ran hard on Saturday.  Almost bagged it a couple of times and maybe should have.  I finally got it, though, but more difficult than it should have been.  This goal MP might be a bit too much for me at this point.  For MP miles I got 8:10, 8:08, 7:55, 7:45, 8:03, 7:49, 7:58, 8:01, 8:05, 7:55, basically all over the place but manage an average of 7:59.  Overall 12.22 miles in 1:44:24, average pace 8:22 per mile.  I have some right calf pain, that one is new, we'll see how it does today.  I could feel my heart rate monitor wrapped around my chest for the whole run, even though it was sitting in my closet.  Not sure whether to see a cardiologist or a psychiatrist for that one.

Comments
From Stephen on Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 10:18:57 from 204.182.3.235

Wow, it was 42 degrees here, and raining. You got colder than we did!

Your bad days are really impressive.

Like I said before, you need to lie down on a couch with your feet up. May as well as a psychologist as well. Maybe he could help you to be more "normal"

From derhammer on Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 10:34:10 from 192.156.110.31

How do you do this? I am still sore from Saturday's run. You must be the bionic man! :-)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 01:12:58 from 109.70.68.174

When you start wearing the HRM when you're not running, then we'll get worried.

Nice run, mission still accomplished.

From flatlander on Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 16:47:12 from 198.207.244.102

Stephen, not having rain is worth at least 15 degrees in temperature if not more. Cold rain sucks the life out of a run more than anything I can think of.

DH, thanks but not quite. Probably took that one too far, luckily I escaped unharmed.

Joe, believe me, I have considered wearing it to bed, just to see what it reads when my alarm goes off in the morning, but that seems too nerdy even for me. Some things we're just better off not knowing.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.060.000.000.0014.06

30F, 90% humidity, calm.  Very pretty morning, even colder than yesterday but for some reason didn't feel as cold.  Got up late after working late, ran 6, took my daughter to school then went out for 8 more, all slow pace in flat shoes.  No serious residual effects from running too hard yesterday, so probably a little lucky there.  I ran 14.06 miles in 2:20:33, exactly 10:00 per mile.  The first 6 were at 9:48, couldn't get as much speed the second time out but my monitor was acting up by then.  Probably related to the cold weather, but that might have been part of my inability to dial in to the right speed/heart rate combination.  Bottom line, I felt fine and this was the right run to do today. 

Comments
From Smooth on Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 15:55:14 from 67.2.111.170

WOW that's a lot of miles for recovery run! GOOD JOB! Your miles are impressive!

We're warmer here in Lehi than you in Cypress! Weird! However, we both have beautiful mornings! :)

From RivertonPaul on Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 18:26:34 from 67.42.27.114

Nice effort.

From allie on Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 20:19:23 from 174.23.238.75

great mileage and a nice recovery run. your "feeling fine" pace was probably the perfect speed/HR combination. nice work.

From flatlander on Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 20:19:30 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks Smooth, every morning is beautiful when you can run.

Thanks Paul.

Allie, thanks, and congratulations again on your race last weekend.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.036.002.000.0010.03

44F, 94% humidity, wind NE 12 mph, gusting to 18.  Very refreshing morning to run.  Went 10.03 miles in 1:21:13, overall pace 8:06 per mile, flat shoes.  2 warmup, then ran 6 MP miles at average pace of 7:50, then tried to run 2 more at 10K pace, couldn't make it.  They came in at 7:29 and 7:23 -- I think my true 10K pace is in the 7:05 - 7:10 range right now.  I seem to be having a difficult time getting my heart rate high at the end of a run where I have been running hard at a sustained pace.  Legs don't want to go fast at the end of a run like that, but according to my heart rate I'm not really all that tired.  On this run I never broke 171, which is only 88% of the max I recorded on the Thanksgiving Day race.  On the other hand, it was great that my heart rate stayed mostly below 160 for the 6 MP miles, that is an improvement.  I just need to get better at finishing the runs off, I think it is mental but still working this one out.

This entry is on Thursday night, no running today due to work pressures, up most of the night then back to work early this morning, going home now to sleep, so today is going to be a clean miss.  Back at it in the morning. 

Comments
From SlowJoe on Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 02:50:36 from 109.70.68.174

Nice going on the run, that's a tough workout. Looks like the wind could've been a factor too.

Tough luck about missing the run; as much as I hate taking a day off, I always come back with some good pop afterward.

From Rye on Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 08:18:56 from 71.209.19.128

Nice flat.. those are great running temps... I hate missing runs too. Hope your day goes great!

From Mack on Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:30:37 from 71.111.190.57

Nice miles flat. I can relate to the work pressures thing. Way to weave your runs in around it.

From flatlander on Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 17:00:30 from 198.207.244.102

SJ, you were certainly right about that. I felt good from the start this morning.

Rye, all is back to normal, got some sleep under my belt now.

Thanks Mack, you are one of the busier guys on this blog I think. Well, Joe has al Qaeda on his hands and Rye is a bishop dealing with teenage-ed terrors, so I guess we are all busy.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.094.002.000.0014.09

40F, 100% humidity, calm and foggy, then clear.  Absolutely beautiful running weather out there.  I did a repeat of Saturday's run on a smaller scale, slow then fast then all out.  Finally made 10K pace the last 2 miles after missing it on Wednesday, albeit the slow end of the band.  I ran 14:09 miles in 2:08:36, average overall pace of 9:08 per mile.  A little too cold at the start for my heart rate monitor to work, but I ran the first 8 miles in the 10:00 to 10:30 range so I'm sure I kept it in the fat-burning zone.  As soon as I sped up to marathon pace I worked up enough sweat to kick the monitor back into gear.  I stayed under 160 bpm for 4 miles, average pace 7:56.  Then ran the last two at 7:13 and 7:07 before a short jog-in.  That was hard.  Good run, legs felt pretty fresh after taking an involuntary day off yesterday.  Tomorrow is going to be 15-20 degrees warmer, should be a very different long run.

Comments
From rockness18 on Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 21:12:43 from 75.42.154.16

Nice run! I envy your weather. :)

From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 00:18:27 from 109.70.68.174

Good, I always like getting revenge on run that didn't go as planned and that's what you did. Hope it doesn't warm up too much for tomorrow.

From flatlander on Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 13:02:42 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks, R18.

Joe, the weather didn't turn out to be a problem, just my own laziness.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
25.220.000.000.0025.22

57F, 100% humidity, wind calm.  Ran dark and early, then well into the daylight, to the point that it was starting to warm up a little, but heat was never much of a factor.  Went 25.22 miles in 4:23:26, average pace 10:27 per mile, regular shoes, which felt heavy after running all week in flats.  Despite the unusually slow pace, can't describe this run as anything but difficult.  The fatigue was bone-deep by the time I finished.  I ran it hungry, and there is definitely a fat-burning speed at which you can run forever to the extent your legs can hold up, but it is not a comfortable feeling for me, at least yet.  My legs were the limiting factor this morning, especially the left leg front top, don't know what it is called but it is the muscle you use to lift your leg when you are putting on shoes or taking off socks.  Coincidentally, you also use it to lift your leg when you run, and it has been bothering me off and on all week.  I almost quit early this morning but it subsided for a while so I kept going.

I ran from my house down to the Y, about 7 miles, found a miraculously open bathroom and had just enough time to catch the 5:50 group out of the gate.  Because of my leg I intended to peel off about halfway back on the return and go back home, leaving me with about 15 for the day.  But no, I kept going.  We started talking about teenagers, runners love black humor I guess.  The funnier the jokes, the slower we went.  Didn't want to miss any of it so I ran all the way back to the Y with the group, 10 for them, which left me about 8 to get home via a longer but safer route, now that traffic was out.

Then I was on my own to get home.  I toyed with going a full marathon but decided that wouldn't be a mature decision, and we all know I am a very mature, just check out my age group sometime.  So because of my maturity I decided to stop one mile short, which left me running around my cul de sac a couple of times like a donkey to get exactly 25.22.

Just talked to my daughter.  She ran a 5K in Temple this morning and won her age group, she is almost as fast as me already and improving very quickly, won't be long before she breaks 20 minutes, which is a serious 5K time.  Also, my granddaughter completed her first 1K.  She had to be carried a few steps, but then saw Santa and wanted to make sure he saw her running, so she passed him, gave him a high five and powered it in.  I'm certain she won her age group too.

Comments
From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 14:24:30 from 214.13.130.104

This was a great entry, made me laugh! Amazing you got 75 miles this week on only 5 runs. I don't have to guts to pull off a fat-burning run like that, I always pump myself full of carbs but I would bet it helps you a ton in your next marathon.

From Mack on Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 19:42:53 from 71.111.190.57

Nice job Flat. Congrats to your daughter too!!

From flatlander on Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 20:39:37 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, either that or it was plain slow. Had another slow one today. Don't mind one or two but I hope a pattern doesn't develop.

Mack, thanks on behalf of both of us!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.110.000.000.0014.11

28F, 63% humidity and calm.  Weather forecast was 25F, disappointed with that 28.  Not a good run, went 14.11 in 2:30:11, average pace 10:39 per mile, regular shoes and long pants.  Left leg is hurting in the same spot, top/front, no worse or better than Saturday, but I am starting to worry.  Also not happy to be so slow, not sure why, even in heavy shoes this run should have been about 20 seconds per mile faster.  Maybe it is the colder than normal weather moving me out of my sweet spot, or maybe my leg is slowing me down.  How I feel in the morning will be important.

 

Comments
From Rye on Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 20:38:07 from 174.27.95.3

Wish I had the answer. I do know that I feel somewhat lethargic when the temps get below 30 degrees. For what it is worth.

From allie on Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 21:01:24 from 174.23.238.75

sorry about the leg pain -- i hope it is nothing serious. nice mileage to start the week.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 01:18:07 from 109.70.68.174

You think the leg pain is a hip flexor? I've had a crappy left hip flexor for awhile and lots of stretching has helped, I think...even before a run.

From Stephen on Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:17:22 from 204.182.3.235

What? 28 degrees in Houston? It was 41 in Orem.

When I ran in 7 degree weather on Thanksgiving Day, I was definitely slowed down.

From derhammer on Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:03:24 from 65.67.40.73

Nice run - some days the legs just don't want to move - I wouldn't fret too much.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.048.000.000.0010.04

34F, 89% humidity, calm and clear.  There is a star in the southeast that has been there for a month now, so bright it continues to shine as the sun comes up, very beautiful.  I assume it is Saturn, probably too big to be a star.  This weather seemed more compatible for running than yesterday.  I did 10.04 miles in 1:23:37, average pace 8:20, flat shoes.  Warmed up for 2 (10:00 and 9:18), then 8 at goal marathon pace, average pace 7:59 as follows:  7:57 (149), 7:58 (152), 7:57 (154), 8:00 (156), 7:53 (157), 8:08 (158), 8:05 (157) and 7:58 (159).  The hip flexor was OK until the last 3 miles, had to consciously power up in order to get my pace back below 8.  It really slows me down.  Overall though it was better than yesterday despite the higher speeds, so for now the situation looks to be manageable.  I think having lighter shoes helped as well, I was certainly glad to see my heart rate climb so slowly, I think that is a good sign, but probably not good enough to get me through a whole marathon.  My plan for the rest of the week is to do two more runs like this one tomorrow on Thursday, go slow on Friday, then plan Saturday according to how I am feeling.

Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:04:44 from 65.67.40.73

I can't believe you guys have such high humidity with those cool temps. How does that feel?

From PRE on Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 20:19:46 from 99.50.214.225

Nice splits for the distance.

From flatlander on Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:04:58 from 198.207.244.102

DH, it seems OK, maybe because I am used to it, don't really notice it. The humidity certainly magnifies the effects of both hot weather and cold, I think, though I am a little unsure why cold weather (below 35F) has an adverse effect on me. My sweet zone at these humidity levels seems to be between 35 and 60. It would probably be a bigger zone if the humidity was lower.

PRE, thanks, keep those detailed blog entries coming, they are very interesting.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.0910.000.000.0012.09

57F, 90% humidity, wind SSW 2 mph.  Felt nice out there, not too warm or too cold.  I ran 12.09 miles in 1:39:58, average pace 8:16 per mile, flat shoes.  Warmed up 2 then ran 10 at GMP, average pace 7:54 per mile.  Heart rate was about 3 or 4 bpm higher today, possibly due to a slightly faster pace, possibly because of warmer temperatures.  Left hip flexor improved slightly again today, much appreciated.  The run was very doable, but still don't have confidence in the full marathon distance at this pace.  During the race I will probably try to follow my heart (rate) from the last one, and whatever the speed is, it is.

There is an interesting article in RW about the Hanson brothers out of Chicago.  They advocate running lots of MP miles and eschewing the long run.  The guy who wrote the article got a 10-year PR on a program that had no runs longer than 16 miles.  I found it interesting because I had arrived at a similar conclusion (as to the MP miles) in my own amateur way.  But I also like low heart rate running.  I try to either run fast or slow and avoid doing too much in-between stuff, although I still do more than I should.  I think what we perceive as a "slow" pace is too fast, in the sense that it exceeds the fat-burning effort and we end up just burning carbs at a slower speed, which is possibly a little less effective than staying down in the fat-burning zone or moving up to a high-heart rate zone.  My guess is that is why some people, such as the Hansons, are questioning the value of long runs, which are usually run at an in-between pace.  But there are a lot of theories and it is fun to experiment.

Comments
From Burt on Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 13:41:04 from 206.19.214.144

Incredible pace for 12 miles.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 15:08:52 from 214.13.130.104

Great run. Sometimes I wonder if any of it matters, and if just running miles (regardless of pace) is all you need. But you're right, mixing it up and experimenting is the fun part.

From Rye on Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 19:16:42 from 63.227.134.18

I had a friend that I trained with for years and then he moved away. He ran trails 5 days a week and didn't bump his mileage up, 12 to 16 miles per run. He ran a marathon that fall and eclipsed his pr by 25 minutes. Maybe that was due to the fact that he didn't run that race with me or was it his hills and trail running????

From Kelli on Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 13:41:41 from 71.219.84.215

I ripped the training schedule out that they suggested. I am intrigued! I do not mind long runs, I just hate the amount of time all of this running sucks out of my already busy life, ya know???? I may just give it a try, it was an interesting article and it obviously worked for the writer.

I ditto Burt, WOW.

From flatlander on Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 15:09:41 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks Burt.

Joe, that is probably right. I have said the same thing many times, and it isn't like I am already going as fast as I can and need to eke out a few seconds per mile. But the amateur science is half the fun.

Rye, interesting. I've noticed that serious trail runners all have marathon speeds that are a lot faster than their regular runs. First time I've heard of that much improvement, though.

Kelli, thanks, I ripped it out too, although frankly the workout sheet doesn't seem to perfectly match the description of what the author was doing. Seems like he was putting in more miles than that.

From Smooth on Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 16:23:41 from 67.2.69.151

NICE mileage and speed!

I too was intrigued by that article. You have a good point there!

From derhammer on Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:33:44 from 65.67.40.73

I have been told the same about the long runs - the 20 plus milers are more for confidence than anything else. I only have one 20 mile run planned this cycle - most others are 15-18. I think it is beneficial to run MGP at the end of a long run though, say 18 miles with 10 - 14 @ MGP. That is what I am doing this time around, anyway. Everyone is so different - there is no blanket training that can be applied to everyone. What works for one person will not necessarily work for others. For example, there are many people in my running group that PR and run sub 3:10's on 50ish miles a week with speed work and traditional long runs. One guy just PR'd from a 3:30 to 3:11 with this training and another from 3:24 to 3:08.

From Kelli on Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 18:58:24 from 71.219.84.215

This is very interesting. I experimented in a COMPLETELY different way this year---upping my miles BIG TIME (but also trying harder on the speed work than I had, I do not like pain and tend to not push it as hard as I can/should) AND I PR'd in every race distance. However, i also am completely burnt out now on the running thing and have lost all desire and motivation to every run that hard again. It was great to PR and enjoyable AFTER the race for maybe a week....but that wore off.

From flatlander on Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 23:18:46 from 75.223.159.57

Smooth, thanks. It was certainly an interesting article.

DH, I am convinced that running hard at the end is good, I don't do it enough.

Kelli, that is a thoughtful comment. I try to never judge myself or anyone else by the miles we run. Everybody's situation is different and changes from time to time even for an individual. (Even though you feel exhausted, I am still mighty impressed by your accomplishments this year, though!)

From Kelli on Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 18:14:31 from 71.219.84.215

Well, I am all for trying this new plan of LESS running and see where it gets me....I am gettin' too old for this!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.0210.000.000.0012.02

62F, 90% humidity, wind SSW 10 mph.  Breezy and mild, very nice out there, the extra heat didn't seem to bother me, although it may have elevated my heart rate a little.  Basically the same run as yesterday, a little faster.  Warmed up 2 then 10.00 miles at GMP, total of 12.02 in 1:37:46, average pace 8:08 per mile for the whole run, 7:47 per mile for the fast miles, which were as follows:  7:56 (151), 7:59 (154), 7:44 (158), 7:48 (160), 7:45 (164), 7:35 (166), 7:48 (166), 7:50 (166), 7:48 (168), 7:39 (171).  So quite a bit more heart rate action going on than yesterday, even though the runs look identical.  Part of the difference is still higher temperatures (back down to 41F tomorrow morning thankfully), some fatigue I guess, but I am guessing most of it is the faster pace.  7 seconds per mile faster than yesterday, doesn't sound like much, but I must be right at the cusp where going any faster puts me into a 10K/5K level of effort even though I'm not actually running those speeds.  No hip flexor issues during the run, I may have avoided that train wreck altogether.  Interesting that three straight days in flat shoes running hard seems to have cured it.  I went to flat shoes originally because I thought they would help me stay healthier, the extra speed was just a bonus.  Maybe the original purpose is finally coming through.  Time permitting I am going slow in the morning in regular shoes, will be interesting to see if my hip starts to hurt again..

Comments
From allie on Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 15:28:11 from 174.23.238.75

well, i hope your hip doesn't act up again, but i agree that it will be interesting to find out...

awesome running today.

From Smooth on Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 16:27:39 from 67.2.69.151

You continue to crank out the miles. So happy to hear the hip flexor stays happy. I too hope it stays that way.

Sounds like the flat shoes are treating you nicely. Are you going to run the marathon in them?

From SlowJoe on Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 01:51:38 from 109.70.68.174

Interesting, I thought the clunky trainers were to prevent injury...what I don't know could fill volumes of books though.

Nice MP running, especially given the warmer temps. Make those 60s go away please!

From flatlander on Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 23:09:16 from 75.223.159.57

Allie, thanks. Forgot to mention the hip, it hurt a little more in regular shoes but seems like it is going to be OK. Maybe my regular shoes are just too old. I'm supposed to use them until the soles wear through, right?

Smooth, yes, I have run 3 marathons in them already. The first two I was faster for half then my calves and feet got tired, which contributed to me slowing down I think. But my last marathon was a totally different experience and I couldn't have done it in regular shoes, I am convinced.

Joe, I am no guru. The theory on minimal shoes is it forces us to run the way we evolved, which means using the arch and tendons in the foot and achilles to cushion the shock. Accordingly, it is hard on the foot and tendons, but once I got used to it things seem much better.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.940.000.000.009.94

49F, 69% humidity, wind NE 3 mph.  Briskier out there today.  Ran 9.94 in 1:41:52, average pace 10:15 per mile, low heart rate and regular shoes.  This run was 24 seconds per mile better than Monday, when the temperature was 24F.  Then I ran out of time because I had to pick up my daughter from seminary.  It seemed like a short run but still pretty tired today.  A sudden business trip has come up, leaving tomorrow night and returning on a red-eye Wednesday morning, so running might be iffy for a couple of days, we'll see what the hotel situation is like.  I have been ragged busy for the last several days.  After tomorrow I start my taper for New Years Day.

Comments
From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 01:26:41 from 109.70.68.174

Good luck with running and the trip. Hope you get back in time to relax for the holidays a bit.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.0712.000.000.0022.07

46F, 55% humidity, wind NNE 7 mph.  It was supposed to be 41F this morning but was happy to see it a little warmer, left my gloves at home and ran pretty much in perfect temperatures, together with low humidity.  Ran the first 9 at 8:55 pace (GMP + 1) then ran 12 at GMP and 1 cooldown.  GMP miles were 8:17 (150), 8:03 (155), 7:56 (160), 7:50 (165), 7:59 (165), 8:05 (165), 7:54 (165), 8:03 (162), 8:15 (156), 7:57 (164), 7:29 (170) and 7:18 (176), maximum heart rate 182, average 7:56 for the 12.  Overall 22.07 miles, average 8:27 per mile, almost exactly the pace I ran at Richmond.  Flat shoes.  This was a hard run, stopped at mile 17 for water and took a phone call in mile 18.  Was happy to stop both times but it was hard getting back up to speed, my legs freeze up almost immediately when I stop.

My youngest daughter turns 14 today and she had a houseful of friends spending the night.  They got to bed at 3:30, but I didn't hear a thing.  They were up already when I got back and came down and joined me for breakfast.  They asked me how far I ran and had a look of incomprehension when I told them.  It was like explaining calculus to my granddaughter.

This is it for this training cycle.  Off to Argentina tonight, I plan to run there on Monday and Tuesday and I will miss Wednesday's run traveling back.  They have mid-summer temperatures going, not sure what the humidity is like.  There is a chance I may have to skip my New Years Day marathon because of a year-end business trip, but that is OK if it happens, the economy is back!

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From SlowJoe on Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 02:33:32 from 109.70.68.174

Really great run and super-impressive finish to a 22-miler. Hope you still get to run the marathon; you sure go to some cool places for work though - I tend to end up in the various armpits of the world on my trips.

From Burt on Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 13:50:01 from 206.19.214.144

#3 on the mileage board for last week. Impressive. Your daughter's friends have every right to look at you in utter uncomprehension-ness. Argentina? Geez! That sounds fun.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.500.000.000.007.50

75F, clear and calm.  Ran this morning in Buenos Aires, left the hotel at 5:30 which was 2:30 by my body clock, but it was OK.  I found my way down to the dock area and managed to find one long esplanade about a mile and a half long where I could get some speed going.  It took about 30 minutes for the Garmin to get used to being in a new place, so I don't have any good data, but some of my splits were in the low 8s, the rest were fairly slow picking my way, waiting for stoplights, etc.  A dog found me.  He was waiting like he knew I was going to be there, must have picked it up off some network they have.  We negotiated a treaty.  I got lost trying to find the hotel, almost late for my meeting.  Kind of an interesting situation because I don't speak a word of Spanish.

I brought all my running stuff except for the most essential thing, my hat.  I think this is the first run I have ever done without a hat, but nobody knew it.  Our deal took me all the way through the night on Monday night, so no running on Tuesday.

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From Burt on Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 20:58:39 from 72.223.84.236

You've got a lot to learn about Garmins.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.014.002.000.008.01

65F, drizzly and foggy.  The plane came in from Argentina at 6:30 this morning, made it back to the house and went straight out for a run, 8.01 miles in 1:01:36, average pace 7:42 per mile, flat shoes.  Ran one warmup mile (9:10) then launched right into it, five at GMP, 7:50 (157), 7:43 (162), 7:44 (163), 7:37 (164), 7:38 (166), then accelerated to a 10K pace for the last two, 7:02 (175) and 6:54 (183).  That last mile was hard, even though I ran around a 6:30 mile a few weeks ago.  Maybe I am slowing down, but it was quite warm so I'm blaming that.

This afternoon I drove to San Marcos and we all had dinner at a steakhouse where my daughter was the waitress.  (Let's just say she got an OK tip.)  Then I drove home and stayed up working until 2:00, got a little bit of sleep and was up again.  I am measuring total sleep this week in single digits, hopefully this slows down soon.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.002.000.000.005.00

55F.  Woke up at 6:30 and had to be on a call by 8, so only had time for a few miles.  Good thing I am tapering this week, my schedule is a mess.  Was going to run it all easy, then decided to run the last two at GMP.  I had to go totally by feel, because I ran my Garmin down yesterday.  Taking it off the charger this morning it wouldn't go on.  I got online just now and found out you have to press "mode" and "reset" together, then turn it on, as simple as that, so I am set for tomorrow but again I don't have any data for this morning.  At this point I can run GMP without the Garmin and finish a marathon pretty close to my goal because I know how it feels, but I need the Garmin to monitor my heart rate.  I am not good enough to pace myself correctly for a full marathon.  I would go either too slow or too fast.

Because of forgetting to turn my Garmin off, it measured my pace all the way to my daughter's restaurant and back, exactly 222 miles.  I had a lot of sub-one minute miles in there.  I think automobiles are better transportation than legs.

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From allie on Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:29:27 from 174.23.238.75

how fun to visit the restaurant where your daughter works. someday you will make that 222 mile journey on foot, right?

good luck with your taper. hope you get a chance to sleep a bit more this week.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 01:38:24 from 109.70.68.174

Some nice work this week, Flat. I need the Garmin too, though I don't track HR. I would be all over the place pace-wise. Congrats on breaking the sub-1 barrier, it's a big milestone.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.306.000.000.008.30

49F, 66% humidity, wind E 11 mph, cloudy and blustery.  This turned out to be perfect running weather.  My daughter and her family are in town so she ran with me today.  Our speeds are very similar now, although she is still a little leery (unnecessarily) of some of my faster miles.  We agreed to go my GMP as long as she could hang with me and I promised not to take it too fast.  After two warmup miles (10:37 and 9:58), we took off.  I told her very confidently on the first mile that we were only going about an 8:15 pace, I'm a pro and I know these things, but we would get warmed up and make it up on the later splits.  Well, I was pretty close, 7:36.  She was pretty ticked, but glad to slow down a little.  Rest of the splits were 8:03, 8:01, 8:07 (146), 8:05 (147), then I told her to go as fast as she wanted for the last mile and she did 7:29 (157), overall pace 7:54, so this was quite an improvement for her.  For me it was also a good run.  I didn't get a true heart rate reading until the last 3 miles, but it was low, which is good news -- I would have been able to do my marathon at goal pace this morning, it felt sustainable.  0.3 cooldown, overall 8.30 miles in 1:10:47, 8:32 per mile.  Gotta go, time to start my Christmas shopping.

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From Smooth on Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 23:15:28 from 67.2.86.4

LOVE it! How WONDERFUL to have your daughter run with you and at such awesome pace for both of you! Hope you got your Christmas shopping done and you have had a very Merry Christmas with your family!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.520.000.000.008.52

39F, 55% humidity wind N 13-22 mph, 31 wind chill, on the way down to 27F tonight.  Ran late this afternoon with my daughter, insisted on a slow run.  We went 8.52 miles in 1:22:30, average pace 9:41 per mile, regular shoes and no heart rate monitor.  The sun went down toward the end of the run and it got cold, plus I never got going that well because I was heavy with Christmas dinner.  But for Christmas this was an OK run.  One more week of tapering.

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From allie on Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 21:25:26 from 174.23.238.75

nice job getting out there for a christmas run. hope you had a great holiday!

From baldnspicy on Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 09:39:03 from 72.77.120.222

Nice job getting in some serious miles on Christmas!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.086.000.000.008.08

27F, 86% humidity, wind E 3 mph.  This heavy air makes the cold bone deep, but I put on layers and it was pretty comfortable after a while.  Ran 2 miles warmup, then 6 at GMP, just slightly below 8:00 pace overall, most miles were within 2 or 3 seconds of that, but it was a little harder than it should have been.  Overall I ran 8.08 miles in 1:07:15, average pace 8:20 per mile, flat shoes and no heart rate monitor.  I'll put it back on tomorrow, but didn't even want to try today at these temperatures. 

Of course, since there is a race this week, I seem to be coming down with a cold.  Yesterday in church my granddaughter was feeding me Cheerios, one after the other, stuffing them all the way in.  I assumed that I have more antibodies than she does, but I might be wrong.  Woke up this morning with a slightly stuffy nose, and my ears pop on the elevator at work.  I am popping Airbornes, but I think I waited too long.

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From derhammer on Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:46:08 from 192.156.110.32

Hopefully it is nothing major. Are you running the Texas Marathon in Kingwood?

From flatlander on Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 12:18:26 from 198.207.244.102

Yes, that's the one. It was my first marathon and then I got a 45-minute PR here last year. The course seems to suit me.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.090.005.000.007.09

47F, 89% humidity, wind E 7 mph.  Very nice running weather.  Warmed up 2 miles then ran 5 at GMP minus 30 seconds:  7:47 (154), 7:23 (159), 7:21 (163), 7:30 (166) and 7:28 (166).  Average pace for threshold miles was 7:30, the goal is to make MP miles seem more manageable this weekend -- I think my heart rate stayed pretty much under control.  Overall I ran 7.09 miles in 58:19, average 8:13 per mile, flat shoes.  I was done by 5:45 and into work by 7:00, things are really busy.  Good news is I don't think my cold is getting any worse.  With any luck it will be gone by Saturday.  Saturday's weather forecast is 61/34, which is perfect if it holds.  Problem is there are a couple of warm days between now and then, and warm fronts tend to stall over Houston.

I will plan to run 6 miles tomorrow (2 @ GMP), take Thursday off, finish with 3 or 4 warmup miles on Friday, then yet another marathon on Saturday morning to start the new year.  This is basically the taper strategy I used last time with good results, so trying it again and hoping for good weather.

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From Burt on Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 12:44:06 from 206.19.214.144

No snotty cheerios today?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 18:57:09 from 109.70.68.174

Sound like good temps, hope it holds true for you. Nice run today, you had some great training for this race.

From flatlander on Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 07:53:50 from 76.31.26.153

Nope, she already did her thing, she's just sitting back in her high chair waiting for the poison to settle in.

Joe, I'm watching weather signals like a cranky old man. Actually, I am a cranky old man.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.042.000.000.006.04

62F, 78% humidity, wind SSE 8 mph.  Warm and slightly muggy out there, but not summer-warm.  Kind of nice actually.  I ran 2 slow miles, 2 GMP miles (8:01 (148) and 7:51 (152, maximum heart rate 155)), then 2 more slow miles.  Total run was 6.04 miles in 55:34, average pace 9:12 per mile.  Happy that my heart rate stayed low for two miles at least.  Got some sort of low-grade bug moving through my system and a couple of people at my house are out for the count with a high-grade bug, so everything is up in the air for this weekend.  Weather forecast is holding, though.  Tomorrow is 76/63, which would be a disaster.  Friday is 72/44, not ideal but acceptable; and Saturday is 61/33, which would be pretty much perfect.  The warm weather is here right on schedule, so maybe it will leave on schedule, like a well-mannered guest.

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From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 00:22:43 from 109.70.68.174

Keeping fingers crossed for your health and the weather.

From Stephen on Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 15:43:11 from 204.182.3.235

Which marathon are you running?

I'll be cheering for you.

From KP on Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 15:53:19 from 65.208.22.25

Gooooooooooooooo Flat!

P.S. That "straight, flat, cold, sea-level marathon" you are looking for sounds like my hometown race, Rocket City Marathon. Well, it isn't that straight. But, all of the other things are spot on. You should look into it... December 2011!!! Lots of people PR there.

From Smooth on Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 23:41:58 from 67.2.79.80

GOOD LUCK on Sat. I'm with SlowJoe! You're gonna do GREAT!

My daughter (from Kingwood) had her baby 5 weeks early, on Dec 27. Man, if I'd known, I would have come and run the Texas Marathon!

Looking forward to your HAPPY NEW YEAR race report!

From lightitup on Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 04:20:33 from 71.37.143.96

Good luck on Saturday. I will be driving to take a son to college, thinking (enviously) of you. Let me know how it goes!

From Rye on Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:40:15 from 75.174.3.56

Good luck flat....with the race and fighting off the crud...tis the season. Enjoy that weather!

From flatlander on Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:15:05 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, cross your toes too, please. Hope you get home soon!

Stephen, it is called the Texas Marathon, but is is a small (300-400) marathon in a neihborhood park in Kingwood, which is in northeast Houston. I know your foot is bad right now, but I kind of hope you don't give up on running, you have quite a bit of speed that is just waiting to get out.

KP, thanks. Rocket City, huh? Not sure if I want to run on a perfect course, because then I would have no excuses, always have to keep at least one excuse in the hip pocket. Thanks for the tip, I'll look into that.

Smooth, hope everything is OK with your daughter and grandson. Hopefully we will get a chance to meet you while you are here. Thanks for all your support this year.

Elaine, thanks, and thanks for running with me in three marathons this year!

Rye, thanks. Can't believe I am complaining about warm weather with what you are dealing with. I hope the rest of your holiday is peaceful and relaxing.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.090.000.000.004.09

67F, 93% humidity, wind SSE 6 mph.  Nice weather for a short soft run, really bad harbinger for tomorrow's race.  I ran 4.09 miles in 40:51, average pace 9:58 per mile, low heart rate and flat shoes.

Oh yeah, there is a race tomorrow.  Here is the deal:  I woke up yesterday morning with a very raw throat and it isn't much different today -- almost feels like strep.  Plus I have that constant hungry feeling I get when this happens, so I know it is the real deal.  I have run two other marathons with flu-like symptoms, my first and my sixth, and they were both, shall we say, less than ideal.  The logical thing would be to pull out or switch to the half but I'll probably end up running it as planned, I am kind of stubborn that way.  I felt fine for this morning's easy run but woozy afterward.  Plus, just as I feared, the cold front is way late.  Current low for tomorrow morning is now set at 45F, but I am guessing 50F, quite a difference from the 33F that was forecast only two days ago.  If it is 50F at the start, it will be 65F or higher by the end.  Almost worse would be if the cold front is moving in during the race, because winds up to 20mph are expected, which could make shambles out of any PR effort.  Whine, whine, whine, I'll just go run it.

Today's miles were my last of the year, pretty good year considering quite a bit of downtime in the first half.  I got three marathon PRs this year.  I also started running shorter races and found out I score higher age-group wise in shorter races than in the marathon.  I dropped my best low heart rate pace from 11:27 to 9:41.  I lost another 15 pounds.  And I have met so many fun and high-quality people on this blog that I just shake my head in amazement when I think about it.  Most importantly, I had lots of good times running with family and friends in training and in races, and I have watched several people in my life take up running.  This change in lifestyle has been very good to me, even if I never get another PR, which is not the plan.

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From lightitup on Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:07:03 from 71.37.143.96

Best of luck on your sore throat, I hope it gets better before you run. Take a Gram of Vit C every hour and it might actually help...I hope you feel better!

From PRE on Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 20:28:26 from 99.50.214.225

Oh you will PR again I am sure. Three Marathon PRs in a year. I did not realize you ran Marathons so frequently. So today is January 1, 2011. And it looks like you may have run a Marathon today. Looking forward to hearing about it and hope you did well given the illness.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2198.91535.5377.6021.402833.44
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