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Location:

Cypress,TX,

Member Since:

Oct 10, 2009

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

5K: 24:22 (March 2010); 22:33 (October 2010); 20:47 (May 2011); 21:05 (May 2012); 21:33 (September 2012); 21:23 (November, 2013); 22:31 (September 2014)

5M:  39:22 (November, 2012); 35:54 (November, 2013); 36:03 (March, 2015)

10K: 44:08 (November, 2010); 49:20 (July, 2013); 44:07 (April, 2015)

12K:  56:03 (December, 2013); 58:58 (December, 2014)

10M:  1:11:58 (October, 2012); 1:15:24 (October, 2014)

Half Marathon:  1:53:xx (London's Run 2010); 2:05:21 (Cowtown 2010); 1:37:04 (Gusher 2011); 1:42:19 (Huntsville 2011); 1:33:47 (Baytown Jailbreak 2012); 1:33:50 (The Woodlands 2012); 1:42:52 (Texas 2015); 1:49:17 (Jailbreak 2015); 1:38:34 (The Woodlands 2015)

25K: 2:01:47 (Fifth Third River Bank, May 2014)

Marathon: 5:51:35 (Texas Marathon 2009); 6:21:36 (Ogden 2009); 4:58:29 (St. George 2009); 4:13:45 (Texas Marathon 2010); 4:04:12 (Utah Valley Marathon, 2010); 5:11:14 (Hartford ING, 2010); 3:41:43 (Richmond SunTrust, 2010); 3:39:27 (Texas Marathon 2011); 3:41:46 (Utah Valley Marathon, 2011); 3:30:35 (St. George 2011); 3:41:51 (Richmond 2012); 3:49:15 (Texas 2013); 3:46:59 (Paavo Nurmi, 2013); 3:34:04 (St. George 2013); 3:49:51 (Texas 2014); 3:31:59 (Richmond 2014); 3:28:34 (Boston 2015)

Short-Term Running Goals:

3:20, 1:30, 0:20

Long-Term Running Goals:

I'm 60, there is no long term.

Personal:

I live, work and run in Houston, Texas.  I have run 17 marathons, some good ones and some others.  I prefer straight, flat, cold, sea-level marathons, still waiting for my first one.  I feel like there are more PRs out there.  When I have them, I am told it is time to dial it back, run for healthy reasons.  I'm sure that's right, and I'm sure it won't happen.

My wife and I are from the mountains of the west.  We have five kids, three granddaughters and three grandsons.  The kids and grandkids are native Texans but we are not -- you have to be born here.

As for my blog title: I run most of my miles before sunrise, sometimes hours before. On the back road of my neighborhood two hours before daylight, I can depend on a pack of mutts behind the boundary fence lighting up when they hear my footsteps. I have wondered what they wanted; but according to Hemingway I needn't ask.

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61F, 97% humidity, partly cloudy and calm.  Very nice morning out there, I miss the humidity and there was plenty this morning for everybody.  Ran 10.10 miles in 1:29:20, average pace 8:51 per mile, flat shoes.  Warmed up for 3 miles then ran 7 at 160 bpm, fastest 8:12, slowest 8:50, average 8:33, but a big spread for a 7-mile run.  At low heart rates my spread for this distance would be more like 10 or 15 seconds once I found a rhythm.  I am assuming I can run a marathon at 160 bpm, so the goal is to get faster at that heart rate.  This morning's pace for the 7 miles looks like "yup, there it is, 4 seconds under", but the problem is that the last 3 miles were 8:49, 8:47 and 8:50, which means I currently don't have the conditioning to run 8:37 splits for a full marathon, notwithstanding the calculators and equivalent time tables out there which are indicating I should be able to run 8:25 splits for the marathon distance based on my 5K and half times.  They lie, all of them.  On the other hand, it may be that I just haven't run enough at these higher heart rates to be able to sustain an even, prolonged effort, so hoping to run at 160 bpm for the next 3 weeks to the extent my legs can withstand the faster paces.  Then I plan a one-week taper for Richmond and see what happens.

Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:19:25 from 65.67.40.73

Agreed about the calculators - I have run 2 half marathons around 1:30 - the rule of thumb is to double and add 10 minutes - that would be a 3:10 for me. Even if I double and add 20 minutes I still have not cracked that time which is a 3:20.

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 14:59:23 from 198.207.244.102

DH, are we doing something wrong or are the calculators just off for everybody?

From derhammer on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 15:16:32 from 65.67.40.73

A seasoned runner that I know and run with runs about a 19:00 5k and a 1:30 half - much like me. She trains about the same as well. She runs 3:12-3:18 range and she has been running marathons for years so she has lots of practice. I think so much comes down to training, weather, etc. but most of all is the mental toughness-the ability to plow through when all your mind wants to do is stop. This is what I need the most work on. I am pretty sure I have the fitness to run a 3:20 - I just need to believe it and not give up at the end. I think most well trained runners can get through 20 with no problem - it's the last 6 that defines one's race. It is of course is the hardest part.

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 16:04:39 from 198.207.244.102

That could be part of it I guess. Once I throw up I throw in the towell, but the ultra guys just consider it part of the package. I should probably get tougher. I'm going to try this plan for a few weeks and see what happens. Richmond is a bonus race, so if something doesn't work no big deal.

From derhammer on Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 16:13:47 from 65.67.40.73

My friend and fellow runner thinks we put way too much pressure on ourselves to BQ.

A few runners have told me that their best races were the ones that they just ran with no pressure. My best 1/2 was when I showed up with no goal whatsoever. I met up with my friend and we just came up with a goal on the spot and I ran a 1:29 - and that was 2 years ago on a lot less training. I am going to try this on my next marathon - go in using it as mental toughness exercise - just to go and see how well I can do without putting too much "I gotta qualify" pressure on myself. I know it will come sooner or later.

BTW - did you see that Boston 2011 registration closed yesterday in less than 18 hours?! That means we have at least 2 more marathon chances until 2012 registration opens next fall.

From flatlander on Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:17:13 from 198.207.244.102

There is a lot to that I think. A marathon is not something you have to get up for like a basketball game. You just go out and do it, the more relaxed you are the better you will do. And yeah, can't believe the Boston situation, they have to do something. I think the New York Marathon model might be better, very aggressive qualifying time (15 minutes faster than Boston across the board) but a lottery too so that regular runners can participate if they are willing to keep trying.

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