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Location:

Cypress,TX,

Member Since:

Oct 10, 2009

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

5K: 24:22 (March 2010); 22:33 (October 2010); 20:47 (May 2011); 21:05 (May 2012); 21:33 (September 2012); 21:23 (November, 2013); 22:31 (September 2014)

5M:  39:22 (November, 2012); 35:54 (November, 2013); 36:03 (March, 2015)

10K: 44:08 (November, 2010); 49:20 (July, 2013); 44:07 (April, 2015)

12K:  56:03 (December, 2013); 58:58 (December, 2014)

10M:  1:11:58 (October, 2012); 1:15:24 (October, 2014)

Half Marathon:  1:53:xx (London's Run 2010); 2:05:21 (Cowtown 2010); 1:37:04 (Gusher 2011); 1:42:19 (Huntsville 2011); 1:33:47 (Baytown Jailbreak 2012); 1:33:50 (The Woodlands 2012); 1:42:52 (Texas 2015); 1:49:17 (Jailbreak 2015); 1:38:34 (The Woodlands 2015)

25K: 2:01:47 (Fifth Third River Bank, May 2014)

Marathon: 5:51:35 (Texas Marathon 2009); 6:21:36 (Ogden 2009); 4:58:29 (St. George 2009); 4:13:45 (Texas Marathon 2010); 4:04:12 (Utah Valley Marathon, 2010); 5:11:14 (Hartford ING, 2010); 3:41:43 (Richmond SunTrust, 2010); 3:39:27 (Texas Marathon 2011); 3:41:46 (Utah Valley Marathon, 2011); 3:30:35 (St. George 2011); 3:41:51 (Richmond 2012); 3:49:15 (Texas 2013); 3:46:59 (Paavo Nurmi, 2013); 3:34:04 (St. George 2013); 3:49:51 (Texas 2014); 3:31:59 (Richmond 2014); 3:28:34 (Boston 2015)

Short-Term Running Goals:

3:20, 1:30, 0:20

Long-Term Running Goals:

I'm 60, there is no long term.

Personal:

I live, work and run in Houston, Texas.  I have run 17 marathons, some good ones and some others.  I prefer straight, flat, cold, sea-level marathons, still waiting for my first one.  I feel like there are more PRs out there.  When I have them, I am told it is time to dial it back, run for healthy reasons.  I'm sure that's right, and I'm sure it won't happen.

My wife and I are from the mountains of the west.  We have five kids, three granddaughters and three grandsons.  The kids and grandkids are native Texans but we are not -- you have to be born here.

As for my blog title: I run most of my miles before sunrise, sometimes hours before. On the back road of my neighborhood two hours before daylight, I can depend on a pack of mutts behind the boundary fence lighting up when they hear my footsteps. I have wondered what they wanted; but according to Hemingway I needn't ask.

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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.020.000.000.008.02

74F, 97% humidity, wind SW 2 mph, clear.  Beautiful morning back in Texas.  I ran 8.02 miles in 1:13:46, average pace 9:12, flat shoes.  Hip issues at a 3 or 4.  I ran the first couple of miles at lower heart rate then gradually sped up until I got to the 165-170 bpm range.  If I had run further I would have been there anyway running 10+ minutes per mile in the humid heat.  I have changed my mind about altitude.  I now think heat is worse, because I ran slower today compared to UVM pace at similar heart rates and the same shoes.  Some of it might be recovery issues, but it is now 9 days since the marathon so I don't think that played a major role.  Splits were 10:23 (127), 9:25 (141), 9:21 (146), 9:12 (152), 8:51 (160), 8:46 (166), 8:44 (170), 8:53 (172).  Comparatively, miles 2-6 in the marathon were 8:20 (173), 8:15 (163), 8:28 (168), 8:31 (166), 8:29 (168), and miles 9-13 were 8:10 (168), 8:25 (170), 8:52 (173), 8:22 (168), 8:36 (168).  These splits included some of the major downhill miles at UVM before I started to tire significantly, so it appears, for me at least, that altitude, low temperature and downhill (UVM conditions) are about 20-30 seconds per mile faster than sea level, heat and flat (today's conditions). 

My guess is that no altitude, low temperature and flat (fall marathon at sea level) would be considerably faster than a race like UVM.  If that is true, then it means heat is a huge factor (turning the fastest conditions into the slowest) and downhill a smaller factor.  The other thing I learned is that I have a lot of work to do in the 160-175 range, just below where my legs start to get tired.  There may be some easy pickings there if my legs can sustain those speeds enough to get in some serious miles.

I realized that this is a nerdy entry, but I am posting it anyway because I need to keep the info somewhere!

Comments
From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 19:24:14 from 184.79.24.255

Love the data. What kind of hip pain? Also, have you thought about the Houston marathon lottery? Cool, flat, sea level...

From baldnspicy on Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 23:52:04 from 72.77.124.65

I enjoyed the nerdy part, Flat. I've been thinking some about this too since it's been getting hot here in the 'burgh. Looks like the humidity is hitting you hard as well! I would have thought the higher altitude would have been harder on you since your body is used to sea level. I'm headed out to Snowbird, UT in a couple of weeks for vacation with the family. I will be running, and it looks like Snowbird is about 8,000 feet, so I'll be interested to see how that altitude affects me since Pittsburgh is about 1,000 feet.

From derhammer on Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:14:57 from 192.156.110.31

I would agree heat is worse, certainly when humidity is thrown in as your body cannot cool itself through evaporation. Your blood is now flowing to the skin to keep you cool instead of to the muscles where you need it most.

You need to find an excuse to come up to Austin and go for a run with us.

From Mack on Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:51:08 from 71.111.186.66

About half way through I was thinking "lawyerly" but "nerdy" works too. =) Still great data to get down in writing as it can be real valuable to refer back to later.

From KP on Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:54:34 from 65.208.22.25

he puts so much of a spin on it that you have no clue what he is talking about - "lawyerly"

From flatlander on Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 15:38:30 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, the hip isn't too bad, it feels just like ITB pain I had in my knees much of last year. If that is the case, it will go away on its own if I treat it right. I'm doing the Texas Marathon again on January 1, so I won't be messing with the lottery.

Wes, let me know how you do at 8,000', that is pretty high. I was never over 6,000' running the marathon.

derhammer, would love to come up and run with you guys. I'll keep an eye on your postings and maybe make it up there some Saturday morning this summer. Y'all might be too fast for me though, in which case I'll stand by the water cooler and pass out drinks.

Mack, they say lawyers go to law school because they can't do math, so I think this one fits in the nerd category.

KP, apologies, I re-read it just now and it is pretty much over the top.

From lightitup on Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 23:52:07 from 209.169.37.178

I am at the North Rim, elev 8862. We did a four mike hike today. It killed everyone but me. I guess marathin training is good for something, even at altitude. However I left my jacket down the trail, so I ran back to get it. THAT was hard

From baldnspicy on Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:54:01 from 72.77.109.243

Thanks Light. I think I know what I'm getting into now! I'll be wearing my RoadID for sure since I'll probably end up getting a cool ride in the ambulance the first day. ha ha

From flatlander on Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 23:11:02 from 76.31.26.153

E, how far down did you run for your jacket. Grand Canyon is considered a destination trail for ultra runners, maybe this is your future.

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